I bet a 100 bucks Kimi will keep the title

Well, it could be Mclaren had bribed BMW and Williams or one of their engineers to give fake testimony

...crown Raikkonen or take 100 bucks. Hard to decide

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Added on November 16, 2007, 12:20 pmI meant it as a sarcasm...not playing with your age dun even know how old Nick is
age doesn't really matter in this case, but its when you started watching the sport I think.

This post has been edited by Aeon_Clock: Nov 16 2007, 12:20 PM

obviously benetton was not a MINARDI right? if a no hope car was given to them you think he can pull off those wins? and 1 more thing is that Senna died

faster give da tittle 2 ham-tan lah.. i wanna c Ecclestone quit & F1 go down..

Why? You prefer A1 ah?

bennetton then was more like Sauber this year. Later Renault bought the team.

lets see Constructors' Championship in the 90s...

1990 - McLaren
1991 - McLaren
1992 - Williams
1993 - Williams
1994 - Williams
1995 - Benetton
1996 - Williams
1997 - Williams
1998 - McLaren
1999 - Ferrari

Still, in 94 when Senna died, Williams still won the Constructors Championship. Honda can win races, they have done it before in Hungary '06. Yes this years' honda aero package is a mess; The team admitted it - look how Super Arguri perform this year using last years' Honda car. If the team can pull it off next year, under Brawn guidance, i believe they can give a suprise or two

Minardi-like team winning races? There have been a few cases here and there in F1. Have to re-read my books

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Added on November 17, 2007, 4:29 amoh, this i have posted before. My earliest re-collection watching F1 was when Senna and Prost were teammates in McLaren

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Added on November 17, 2007, 4:30 amCase is now closed :

http://www.planet-f1.com/story/0,18954,3213_2887295,00.html

This post has been edited by evoHahn: Nov 17 2007, 04:30 AM

Pay up...pay up...100 bucks each

This post has been edited by Raikkonen: Nov 17 2007, 08:15 AM

Padan muka sama itu Ron Dennis huhuhu

Lost interest in the sport after senna's untimely death and prost's departure. Always thought that after that it was a one horse race with schumi, despite coulthard and hakinnen's best efforts.
Hamilton was/is interesting but the court fiascos these year have been a real turnoff... and the latest ruling confirms it all, F1 is a bloody farce.
Give me two seater salon car racing anyday!!!

no.. F1 will kill A1..



McLaren appeal verdict confirmed.

McLaren appeal fails; Kimi Raikkonen keeps title.

he FIA's International Court of Appeal has rejected McLaren's appeal against the decision not to disqualify the BMW-Sauber and Williams' cars from last month's Brazilian Grand Prix.

The decision means that Kimi Raikkonen has won the 2007 Formula 1 drivers' title, as Lewis Hamilton remains seventh overall in the Brazilian GP race classification and does not move up to gain the additional points needed to overhaul him.

A statement released by the FIA late on Thursday said that the appeal lodged by McLaren was 'inadmissible'.

The full release from the FIA read:

"The FIA International Court of Appeal met in London on Thursday, November 15, 2007, to examine an appeal lodged by the Motor Sports Association (MSA) on behalf of its licence-holder Vodafone McLaren Mercedes against the decision (document 41) of the Panel of the Stewards of the 2007 Brazilian Grand Prix dated 21 October 2007 and counting towards the 2007 FIA Formula One World Championship.

"Following a report from the Technical Delegate indicating that the temperature of fuel pumped into the cars #9 - Nick Heidfeld, #10 - Robert Kubica, #16 - Nico Rosberg and #17 - Kazuki Nakajima, was more than 10 degrees centigrade below ambient temperature, the Stewards of the Meeting met to consider whether a penalty should be imposed.

"Having heard the evidence they decided not to impose a penalty as they had sufficient doubt as to both the temperature of the fuel on board the car and to the true ambient temperature.

"Having heard the explanations of both parties and having examined the various documents and other evidence, the Court decided that the appeal lodged by Vodaphone McLaren Mercedes is inadmissible.

"The International Court of Appeal was presided over by Mr Jan Stovicek (Czech Republic), elected President, and composed of Mr John Cassidy (United States), Mr Vassilis Koussis (Greece) and Mr Jos� Macedo e Cunha (Portugal)."

This post has been edited by EroS: Nov 17 2007, 12:30 PM

no more appeal right? i scare those whining ppl keep appealing then everyday need to wait

no more de.. final de..

This would not never happened if FIA banned them for 2 years

This post has been edited by Raikkonen: Nov 17 2007, 01:42 PM

I was a bit afraid when I heard about the appeal. Thank god that's over.

So, Iceman gets to keep his title. Let's move on and we shall see what in store for us in 2008.

waiting for next year, it will be interesting without traction control

Hammy never drive F1 car without TC,lets see what he can do at Melbourne next year,he really need do a lot of practice next month winter testing

gp2 cars are without TC rite, please correct me if i'm wrong. so if hamilton drove during gp2 without TC, IMO he can still perform well only difference are technical and handling of the car.