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 won 5.6mil negligence cause paralysis after birth, in govt hospital (scary)

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TSmezanny
post Jul 5 2023, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(-PuPu^ZaPruD3r- @ Jul 5 2023, 04:16 PM)
Nowadays most amoi's like to go for Caesarean birth instead of natural birth.. So many risks but all scared of pain.. Compared to our parents time all natural birth
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amoi go to private hospital lah

last time i went to recce at a public hospital, I was shocked to see a woman just recently gave birth caesarean, lying on the bed after wheeled out of the hospital, still bleeding.

after that I decided not to use public hospital, not worth the risk.
Knnbuccb
post Jul 5 2023, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(sunami @ Jul 5 2023, 03:04 PM)
and yet request more pay and more benefits for MO
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So who will be MO if their liability so high
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post Jul 5 2023, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(potatolala @ Jul 5 2023, 03:01 PM)
WTF
How can a medical officer with no experience perform the surgery in the first place?
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Emergency maybe. Main doctor cirit
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post Jul 5 2023, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(mezanny @ Jul 5 2023, 03:18 PM)
if you are the medical officer, would you volunteer to do the surgery?

damn, I wouldn't do it.

what the heck is wrong with the stupid MO??? He thinks this is something experimental that he should explore is it?

he is dealing with 2 lives there !!!!

hope the MO is also liable
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If u don't volunteer ppl say u scaredy shit can't be a specialist

How?
darosha
post Jul 5 2023, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(Accord2018 @ Jul 5 2023, 04:18 PM)
Background
1. The Plaintiff in this case initiated a claim for medical negligence
against 19 Defendants who comprised of the Government of
Malaysia and the 18 medical officers attached to the Government
Hospital.
2. As a result of the medical negligence the Plaintiff an infant girl
suffered a spinal cord injury leaving her as a tetraplegic and
paralyzed from neck downwards since birth on 12/5/2020. The
Plaintiff is at the moment dependent on a ventilator and also she
has tracheostomy attached to her
3. The 1st Defendant the Government of Malaysia admitted liability on
26/7/2022 after which the Plaintiff withdrew all claims against the 2nd
to 19 the Defendant.
4. The trial proceeded for assessment of damages and lasted for 2
days whereby the Plaintiff called 2 witnesses i.e. the mother of the
Plaintiff (SP 2) and an expert witness Dr Kavitha (SP1). The 1st
Defendant called an expert witness Mohaneswari d/o Sandrajagran
(SD1).


Something unusual. I think they probably refused to show the parents any CCTV or provide any details of who performed it. Or else why need to sue all of them? And then gomen just admitted being wrong then PL withdrew all claims against the 18 fellows. If full trial will need to release all the records, cctvs etc...
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well from what you stated there
looks like a district hospital with only 18 MOs and probably no pakar hospital
most of the time only doctor directly involved is liable
all the other 18 fellows probably just in vicinity or the same department or even same hospital
shouldnt pukul all sama rata.
also there's hardly any cctv of lscs, its not like doing scope
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post Jul 5 2023, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(dwks @ Jul 5 2023, 03:36 PM)
Fuckkkkk our tax money going into this due to this inexperience shit doing surgery…???
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Doctor got insurance one. In case kena sue
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post Jul 5 2023, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(darosha @ Jul 5 2023, 04:28 PM)
well from what you stated there
looks like a district hospital with only 18 MOs and probably no pakar hospital
most of the time only doctor directly involved is liable
all the other 18 fellows probably just in vicinity or the same department or even same hospital
shouldnt pukul all sama rata.
also there's hardly any cctv of lscs, its not like doing scope
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not a surprise actually because 7 scanners only 1 operating...@@ If intruders came in also no cctv to capture?
Knnbuccb
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QUOTE(dwks @ Jul 5 2023, 03:36 PM)
Fuckkkkk our tax money going into this due to this inexperience shit doing surgery…???
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That's the problem.

Your tax money ain't enough to cover specialist for every op
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post Jul 5 2023, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(JasonthegreatTWO @ Jul 5 2023, 04:29 PM)
Doctor got insurance one. In case kena sue
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Most don't have so high coverage
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post Jul 5 2023, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(-PuPu^ZaPruD3r- @ Jul 5 2023, 04:16 PM)
Nowadays most amoi's like to go for Caesarean birth instead of natural birth.. So many risks but all scared of pain.. Compared to our parents time all natural birth
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Men are just as guilty by making pusi longgar jokes.
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QUOTE(Accord2018 @ Jul 5 2023, 04:29 PM)
not a surprise actually because 7 scanners only 1 operating...@@ If intruders came in also no cctv to capture?
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cctv in hospital is not placed in labour room or ot
only on entrance and exit
and places they need to control the items/medicine
not where patient is
its patient's confidentiality

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post Jul 5 2023, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(Knnbuccb @ Jul 5 2023, 04:30 PM)
Most don't have so high coverage
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most high level surgeon have it
especially brain surgeon, heart surgeon and eye surgeon
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post Jul 5 2023, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(darosha @ Jul 5 2023, 04:36 PM)
cctv in hospital is not placed in labour room or ot
only on entrance and exit
and places they need to control the items/medicine
not where patient is
its patient's confidentiality
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I mean entrance la. Normally won't sue like this unless they don't want to tell who handles the operation. If full trial, it will leak out also.

Btw I slightly check all the plaintiffs past hospital, most likely is selayang one.
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post Jul 5 2023, 04:40 PM

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I think the system needs a revamp. Healthcare spending is not enough ... How to hire enough specialist to do surgery ? They have to delegate to junior staff... Pay more people and pay higher so people stay
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QUOTE(Accord2018 @ Jul 5 2023, 04:38 PM)
I mean entrance la. Normally won't sue like this unless they don't want to tell who handles the operation. If full trial, it will leak out also.

Btw I slightly check all the plaintiffs past hospital, most likely is selayang one.
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what's more important than an entrance cctv is the documentation
whoever in cctv doesnt mean the person really get into the exact operating theatre
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post Jul 5 2023, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(darosha @ Jul 5 2023, 04:15 PM)
How come MO have no experience perform caesarean section operation?
isnt it a qualification to be able to do caesarean section during housemanship?
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During housemanship, you only need to assist the surgeon or in certain hospital in sabah/sarawak, ho can do csec but with supervision by experience medical officer. How come mo need experience to perform caesarean section in the first place? Do you think 4 months in o&g rotation is enough to do csec? In certain hospital, 3rd years o&g mo only can perform csec without supervisor.
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QUOTE(darosha @ Jul 5 2023, 04:37 PM)
most high level surgeon have it
especially brain surgeon, heart surgeon and eye surgeon
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And people ask why doctor don't work for free... But when issues happen they want doctors to pay. Funny people everywhere.luckily Ayam no work as doctor
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post Jul 5 2023, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(darosha @ Jul 5 2023, 04:40 PM)
what's more important than an entrance cctv is the documentation
whoever in cctv doesnt mean the person really get into the exact operating theatre
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got 5 names over 18 names already not a registered doctor now. mad.gif
that means it is not just a simple case. Thats why no need full trial and just admit fault.
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post Jul 5 2023, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(Halibut @ Jul 5 2023, 04:41 PM)
During housemanship, you only need to assist the surgeon or in certain hospital in sabah/sarawak, ho can do csec but with supervision by experience medical officer. How come mo need experience to perform caesarean section in the first place? Do you think 4 months in o&g rotation is enough to do csec? In certain hospital, 3rd years o&g mo only can perform csec without supervisor.
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U must be from hospital with a lot of specialist.....in hospitals with less specialist like where there's literally one or two ... My friend told me
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That kid that kena potong kuku coz of sunat laser compensate how much?

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