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post Jun 24 2023, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Jun 24 2023, 11:42 AM)
Even though it is cheap but the fact that 5G router cost between 1.5~2k, I dont think it is a good deal unless you are going to use it as a hotspot with your phone.

I think YES is a better deal at RM99 with a free 5G router. Too bad I signed up with Celcom Home Wireless 5G at RM149 before YES introduced the price cut.
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RM700 to RM900 can get a decent one already but DNB Ericsson equipment really has serious compatibility issues with China based chipsets such as Huawei Balong, ZTE and Unisoc.
Those more expensive modems use wither SD or Mediatek that's why they have better compatibility.

YES also restricts speeds to around 120Mbps on their 5G on average. Their network very high ping rate.

Best we get a cheaper modem for time being to future proof investment. Wait for 2nd 5G network to use Huawei equipment for better compatibility with China based chipsets.
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post Jun 24 2023, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(westlife @ Jun 24 2023, 06:00 PM)
RM99 with a free 5G router is nice deal. Since all telcos including yes, u mobile and celcom uses the same 5G network rite?
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Better read the deal conditions more carefully.

RM99 is only for first 6 months, after that will be full RM149/month for the remaining 18 months of your 24 months contract.

That's like almost paying 2.5X more than U Home 5G plan.

Same 5G network but different international routing.

Umobile is sister company with Singapore's StarHub.

Just as Time's major upstream provider is Singtel, DiGi's is Telenor.


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post Jun 30 2023, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(dorsh @ Jun 30 2023, 09:44 AM)
If you on a tight budget then you can consider much cheaper modem like Unicom VN007+ or Quantum H188.. price range from rm600~800.. but the speed can’t go up to 1Gbps.. mostly around 400~500mbps max..
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Maybe not with DNB's Ericsson equipment but once the 2nd 5G network starts using Huawei equipment, these China chipsets might gain the upperhand with compatibility in future.
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post Jul 8 2023, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(mlamlam @ Jul 7 2023, 11:22 AM)
One more question on this U Home 5G, does it provide public IP or private IP?
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Almost all mobile network provides only private IP/NAT to consumers.

Unless they have special arrangement such as a fixed wireless broadband solution,
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post Aug 9 2023, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(tslim2531 @ Aug 9 2023, 05:18 PM)
Mind to share any recommended chipset or phone that have strong signal?
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Due to DNB's bad taste and selection to choose Ericsson, avoid China branded chipsets such as Unisoc, Balong(Huawei) and ZTE if possible.

The most compatible 5G modem chipsets you should lookout for phones and fixed modems are Mediatek or Qualcomm's Snapdragon based ones.

This is until ZTE and Huawei is given the chance to build the 2nd wholesale 5G network in future. Until then avoid modems/phones which uses China branded ones.

They never learned even after TM's failed HSBB network which until today tries to monopolize the entire nation's fixed fibre network. See how our national wholesale pricing for fibre broadband lines unable to progress forward and lower significantly in pricing due to bad monopolistic prices. PH is moving forward by allowing TNB Allo and TIME now to service landed homes instead.

DNB was the same thing dog biting back its own tail move.
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post Aug 26 2023, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(wanttobuylaptop @ Aug 25 2023, 10:48 PM)
Do not get yes gateway
I repeat, do not get yes gateway
I did some research b4 and went to see the real thing
Its definitely the cheap 5g router that cost ard 500 in shopee, using unisoc
Zxyel would be way better than that.
Please consider the chipset that is use in the router instead of brand name
Mediatek t750 or sd x55/62/65 should have no problem matching phone speed, and would definitely beat phone during stress test and heavy load

Yes 58 no contract, if anyone interested should really try it la
After all i didnt use yes sim in router to confirm if the funny behaviour also exist in yes 58
Seriously la, 60ish include sst, anyone still remember itu rahmah package also cost rm60?
New ministry of multimedia do a lot of funny thing
Lucky we have u and yes, no buat comedy with the ministry
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Nothing less than Mediatek or Snapdragon X55 for me.
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post Sep 17 2023, 07:54 PM

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QUOTE(9M-MAS @ Sep 16 2023, 08:15 PM)
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Another choice for 5G. Brand was unknown to me before but sports Qualcomm chip.
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Even if it uses Qualcomm modem chipset inside if no more firmware updates in future or the modem not flashable to open source firmware. The modem is good as dead one generation disposable just as how they obsolete the Android phones.

Please avoid custom mobile telco branded modems, their firmware have limited support and features like band-locking, customized heavily for a specific network or purposely made to limit for use of specific 5G network of a certain country.

AVOID even if it's CHEAPER.
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post Sep 17 2023, 08:57 PM

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QUOTE(9M-MAS @ Sep 17 2023, 08:48 PM)
Not even the EE/Three branded Zyxel modems?
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If there's new firmware updates from EE/3, it's for their own 5G network not for Malaysian market. They use different combination of bands compared with us and the worst thing you want is they LOCK it down to prevent their modems from being used for competitor networks if the modem is SIM unlocked.


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post Nov 15 2023, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(harmeet15 @ Nov 15 2023, 02:29 PM)
hi all,
I am facing some issues with my UHome 5g using deco X50.
On 4g connection is stable and no drops in data.
On 5g connections seems to be dropping and unstable.

Any idea on what troubleshooting can be done?

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This is due to bad implementation by Malaysian telcos of choosing to deploy NSA 5G networks in the country.

The ideal type of 5G network was supposed to be standalone type (SA) which only forces your device to connect to 5G and nothing else.

Reason why NSA sucks is because your modem tend to choose the stronger signal band and fallback to 4G in your area. Meaning your 5G band signal in your area is weaker than your 4G network signals present.

For a true standalone 5G network when you place a 5G SIM into your phone/device, even when you move to an area where 4G signals are stronger than 5G signal is will refused fallback to 4G because the telco restricts your device from connecting to any 4G networks that are available.

The drawback is costs and the inability to share resources for both 4G/5G networks when you choose to implement a dedicated standalone(SA) 5G network.

Your solution is to force your device to connect to ONLY 5G does it have such option?
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post Nov 17 2023, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(harmeet15 @ Nov 17 2023, 09:58 AM)
On 4g I can see a list of Bands to select.
On 5g no such option.
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Don't be misled that your LTE connection icon is shown for B28(700MHz APT700) is actually a 5G band.

ITU-T insists that B28 is not a true 5G band but instead a Advanced LTE/Pre-5G band so your modem shows its LTE connection. It is actually a very good signal which no other 4G signals will fallback since it's 700MHz. Closest to is is B5 which is at 850MHz.

Only N78 signal will be shown as 5G connection when connected. But it'll be very weak unless you sit next to the gNodeB like in-building coverage.
N78 is 3.8GHz so it'll be very weak and can't travel very far with good wall penetration. Should you be able to aggregate it with N78 you'll have added capacity for future upload and gigabit capacity but very hard to meet its small coverage unless they spend billions to build lots of pico nodes.

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post Nov 17 2023, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(GameSky @ Nov 16 2023, 08:53 PM)
got option to lock B28+N78? Then it should make it lock to 5G instead of falling back to 4G due to signal strength.
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Most 4G modems(Even Cat6) won't be able to connect to B28.

Unless you have a draft-5G device such as Huawei B818/latest 4G phones with most recent chipsets (stand to be corrected).
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post Nov 17 2023, 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(harmeet15 @ Nov 17 2023, 06:09 PM)
Should I be looking at changing my modem?
If I get the Zyxel 3 UK NR5103e, would I be able to lock the bands and solve this issue?
or anything similar?
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Nothing wrong with your modem, as what the other forumer said just set to manual band selection mode and select only B28 for LTE and N78 for NSA 5G then SAVE.
Reboot your modem and you are good to go.

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At this screen just choose manual and save your settings. Reboot your router should be connected.

B28 is actually 5G band but ITU-T standards wants modem suppliers to list it as LTE instead of 5G band.




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post Nov 17 2023, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(harmeet15 @ Nov 17 2023, 07:09 PM)
That’s the issue I’m facing.
I can’t select manual to lock band.
The bands you see are only visible when I select 4g.
When I select 5G, the list is empty.
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Yes it's disguised as 4G as said. Choose B28 ONLY in 4G you're actually connecting to a 5G network.

Save and Reboot you will be connected to DNB 5G network but with a LTE network indicator.
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QUOTE(bjohnxbjohn @ Nov 17 2023, 07:05 PM)
Interesting when you mentioned B818.

Do you have any links discussing the 5G connection on this router?

Thanks in advance.
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All the later draft-5G modems and CAT18 above LTE modems with band selection has B28 and can support CA upto 1600Mbps.


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post Dec 8 2023, 07:12 PM

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QUOTE(4WD_er @ Dec 7 2023, 04:51 PM)
If you swap the sim card to your 5G phone, what kind of speed can you get ?  This is the only way to compare and tell if your modem has issue.

My Yeacomm is quite good, easily hit 300 mbps with 5G RSRP at -91dbm.
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Yeacomm is using cheaper Mediatek T750 5G modem instead of Snapdragon X55?

Also costs double the price?


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post Dec 12 2023, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(4WD_er @ Dec 11 2023, 08:58 AM)
I bought it 6 months ago, back then less variety available.  But if I look at the end result, no complain at all.

Qualcomm or Mediatek whatnot is not important, it the end result that is important.

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Worth it? It costs almost twice with latest batch of Snapdragon X55 modems on sale.

QUOTE(lwk523 @ Dec 12 2023, 12:06 AM)
Hi,
I just bought an OEM 5G modem and not sure why I cant get 5G signal even I changed IMEI already.  Is that umobile also check on TTY ?
Thank you
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Known chipset problem.

Those cheaper China OEM 5G modems with Unisoc IVY 510 chipset is known to perform very bad with DNB's Ericsson equipment due to compatibility.
Average can only reach 100+mbps even with good signal reception.

QUOTE(peja5081 @ Dec 12 2023, 10:28 AM)
Arcadyan aw1000. Not suggesting for beginner as its using modded open wrt firmware. But speed much higher. Can get 300Mbps constantly. Sometime 400. With low 5G signal. If me i would go olax or gteniq. Much user friendly
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From the speedtests down with the Arcadyan, it's noticeable slower compared to other Snapdragon based modem. 200-300mbps on average is slow.

Gteniq is another lousy one costs almost 2X(also around RM900) the competition but only has 4x1000Mbps Ethernet ports. Open source firmware is useless because many won't make use of it. It only confuses new users because they might mistakenly change them.

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QUOTE(ch1ck3n @ Dec 13 2023, 06:15 PM)
Just got my zyxel unit from lazada. My speed on iPhone 13 Pro Max can hit up to 600-700 mbps, but with the zyxel unit only can get about 300-400mbps.

I have two questions to ask and if anyone can answer would be awesome.

1) will I be able to get even better speeds if I use external antennas ? Or this is just a bottle neck of the modem?

2) any vpn to recommend to torrent (the cheapest and suitable for my usage)? I am not a heavy user but occasionally will download movies to watch. Cause I like watching those with proper encoding and UHD.
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Did you test both your phone and modem at same spot? The modem's antenna is much larger than your phone actually.
Also did you test your modem on a direct wired connection to your PC?

No difference between Snapdragon X55 and X62, The one to look out for are Snapdragon X65 onwards which is 5G Phase 2 which supports upto 10G speeds.

There are some modem now selling in the market with Snapdragon X62 chipset but I think is waste of money because the only advantage it has is support for additional bands.

In Malaysia DNB only uses B28 and N78? Support more bands also useless waste of money might as well wait for future ones with Snapdragon X70 above. You know lar Malaysia always slow in adopting new tech, even Unifi until now still selling old GPON tech for their 2Gbps plans. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ch1ck3n @ Dec 13 2023, 08:42 PM)
yes the phone and modem same spot haha, right at the window.
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You test your modem via WiFi or wired?
WiFi sure inferior since the modem is only AX1800 and not a good one.
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QUOTE(ch1ck3n @ Dec 13 2023, 08:50 PM)
oh wow good call, yes i am using wired now. 500 mbps

RSRP at -82.

is it pointless to buy external antennas?
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The Zyxel modem comes with two 2.5Gbps port. Unifi users will get jealous. brows.gif
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post Dec 13 2023, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(ch1ck3n @ Dec 13 2023, 09:17 PM)
haha we cant get those speed on 5g anyways, nth to be jealous about i guess
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With a 1Gbps Ethernet port, your speed should maxed out at around 950mbps with overheads.

Depending on DNB future use of additional bands and increasing their width size to add capacity.

Your iPhone 15 Pro actually uses a Snapdragon X70 modem inside and it doesn't have to do additional work of DHCP routing via WiFi or wired. That's why modems are always slower than phones which can hit above 1Gbps on speedtests.

5G Phase 2 can go upto 10G speeds, it will give 10G Fiber a runs for its money.

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