Loke: Good idea to bring back Bas Mini
Loke: Good idea to bring back Bas Mini
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Jun 15 2023, 12:49 PM, updated 3y ago
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Jun 15 2023, 12:50 PM
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This really going backward… can’t even work on improving transport system
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Jun 15 2023, 12:51 PM
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Yep, hitting the reverse gear. Other SEA countries move forward we move backwards.
Really proving what Jocelyn Chia say is correct. An undeveloped country. |
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Jun 15 2023, 12:51 PM
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current bus vs mini bus
how cheap is mini bus? maintenance ada spare part tak? |
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Jun 15 2023, 12:52 PM
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In front klcc there cars and tourist bus just park on the road blocking rapidkl bus route....what difference would bus mini do? dwks, SYAMiLLiON, and 3 others liked this post
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Jun 15 2023, 12:52 PM
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flood all roads with buses
then everyone take bus? |
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Jun 15 2023, 12:52 PM
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QUOTE(gnc88 @ Jun 15 2023, 12:50 PM) Meanwhile Singapore already using EV busesMeanwhile escalator in Bdr Tasik Selatan LRT still rosak Meanwhile automated ticket machine still rosak JeremyLord and march4th liked this post
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Jun 15 2023, 12:52 PM
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Also bring back sammy vellu pls.
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Jun 15 2023, 12:52 PM
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Ayam saw current bus oredi shrink much in size compared to intrakota era..still need smaller?
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Jun 15 2023, 12:54 PM
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Jun 15 2023, 12:51 PM) Probably used as last mile transportation. What is missing or lacking now is the last mile connection. So it makes sense to get a smaller mini buses as this missing connection. If they bring back bus mini as previously, we have plan to fail the MRT/LRT facilities. |
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Jun 15 2023, 12:55 PM
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Nowadays only bangla and b40 aunty uncle will take bus one la.
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Jun 15 2023, 12:55 PM
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last time bus not moving till 80% filled loserguy liked this post
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Jun 15 2023, 12:55 PM
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If electric or hybrid mini bus then ok. danabu liked this post
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Jun 15 2023, 12:55 PM
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QUOTE(fongsk26 @ Jun 15 2023, 12:54 PM) Probably used as last mile transportation. What is missing or lacking now is the last mile connection. So it makes sense to get a smaller mini buses as this missing connection. like i said can buy mini busIf they bring back bus mini as previously, we have plan to fail the MRT/LRT facilities. but does it still in production? spare part ada? |
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Jun 15 2023, 12:55 PM
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not sure everyone aware or not that most buses in KL are big, cant even drive thru those taman. mini bus or smaller bus can solve this problem. ooice, CallOfLegend, and 4 others liked this post
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Jun 15 2023, 12:55 PM
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Mini bus succeeded not just because of size but because of free market. It was in the interest of the bus driver and conductor to be as efficient as possible to maximise profit. Alot of ppl also say this model is the best. But I bet once they realise this model also leads to overloading and speeding bus drivers they will then say Rapid KL number one and ban mini bus QUOTE(jurkflash @ Jun 15 2023, 12:55 PM) not sure everyone aware or not that most buses in KL are big, cant even drive thru those taman. mini bus or smaller bus can solve this problem. Actually this. The older suburbs in PJ were well served by the mini busses. When they switched to the bigger busses they had to relocate most of the bus stops to the bigger and busier roads. So yeah this is potentially one good pointThis post has been edited by 9m2w: Jun 15 2023, 12:57 PM CallOfLegend, 13th, and 7 others liked this post
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Jun 15 2023, 12:56 PM
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QUOTE(gnc88 @ Jun 15 2023, 12:50 PM) what happened to this rapidkl mini bus?![]() |
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QUOTE(gnc88 @ Jun 15 2023, 01:50 PM) Why is it going backwards. It is perfect for city areas and feeder bus to LRT/MRT. Just look at HK mini bus. Bringing back minibus concept does not mean we are bringing back the old type of minibus. CallOfLegend, Mel2, and 8 others liked this post
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Jun 15 2023, 12:57 PM
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QUOTE(MegaCanonF @ Jun 15 2023, 12:56 PM) we already have brt already![]() which is kinda wasted btw This post has been edited by JimbeamofNRT: Jun 15 2023, 12:58 PM max_cavalera liked this post
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Jun 15 2023, 12:58 PM
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Use van better la
Can go everywhere Neeed bus lane too |
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Jun 15 2023, 12:58 PM
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Excellent idea.
Will become main medium for transportation for the foreign worker. |
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Jun 15 2023, 12:58 PM
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QUOTE(9m2w @ Jun 15 2023, 01:55 PM) Mini bus succeeded not just because of size but because of free market. It was in the interest of the bus driver and conductor to be as efficient as possible to maximise profit. You can follow HK style of mini bus. Don’t allow standing and they must follow designated routs onlyAlot of ppl also say this model is the best. But I bet once they realise this model also leads to overloading and speeding bus drivers they will then say Rapid KL number one and ban mini bus Actually this. The older suburbs in PJ were well served by the mini busses. When they switched to the bigger busses they had to relocate most of the bus stops to the bigger and busier roads. So yeah this is potentially one good point |
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Jun 15 2023, 12:58 PM
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I hate mini bus. Reminds me of those days of overloading and reckless driving.
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Jun 15 2023, 12:59 PM
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QUOTE(30624770 @ Jun 15 2023, 12:56 PM) Why is it going backwards. It is perfect for city areas and feeder bus to LRT/MRT. Just look at HK mini bus. Bringing back minibus concept does not mean we are bringing back the old type of minibus. Yes. Fully support more busses. Cheaper. Easy to expand. Can do it quick.Even better if we start implementing exclusive bus lanes. To make the busses faster and encourage more people to use it if they want to avoid the jam. Just wave at those losers stuck in their cars. Buhbye. |
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Jun 15 2023, 12:59 PM
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MRT is the best thing to happen in Malaysia We should have more MRT not more buses max_cavalera, hirano, and 1 other liked this post
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Jun 15 2023, 12:59 PM
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Jun 15 2023, 01:00 PM
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Who need bus when we got grab already. So backward. MakNok liked this post
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Jun 15 2023, 01:01 PM
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Jun 15 2023, 01:02 PM
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QUOTE(TruboXL @ Jun 15 2023, 01:59 PM) Our MRT need feeder buses as our development is not properly planned. Nowadays, most people still need to drive to stations to go take MRT |
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Jun 15 2023, 01:03 PM
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I know ready one day sure sohai idea will come out. Just like 100% tint last time.
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Jun 15 2023, 01:04 PM
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Many Grab drivers in /k so upset with this news. Bring back the mini busses! MakNok liked this post
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Jun 15 2023, 01:05 PM
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QUOTE(No Wear Mask @ Jun 15 2023, 12:51 PM) She is correct all this while, its only Malaysian that is made up of ore butthurt losers je tak boleh tahan fakta.According to most kekonomist, Malaysia's potential is the biggest in the world due to the 'developing nation' status.... but that in fact to mask the facts we are indeed not developed in any sense at all. |
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Jun 15 2023, 01:06 PM
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Bas mini at this climate and age?
Let's see how many willing to spend time in mini buses smelling other people's sweat and body odor, without no aircond. |
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Jun 15 2023, 01:07 PM
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All talk like transport experts. gundamsp01 and xCM liked this post
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Jun 15 2023, 01:07 PM
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yes mini bus or bus vans
need to get from taman taman to ler/mrt stations |
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QUOTE(30624770 @ Jun 15 2023, 12:58 PM) You can follow HK style of mini bus. Don’t allow standing and they must follow designated routs only Have to monitor if its private sector free enterprise. If its run by Rapid you can have some assurance they will adhere to SOPIf full for profit need to keep a close eye |
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Jun 15 2023, 01:12 PM
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but but later... Bas Mini Wilayah ----> Bas Mini Banggalah
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Jun 15 2023, 01:12 PM
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If bus mini is private enterprise..its not going to be helpful..it will be profit orientated..they only choose the profitable routes and during peak hours... niakulah liked this post
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Jun 15 2023, 01:14 PM
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More choices for consumer and competition in market. Good.
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Jun 15 2023, 01:14 PM
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Grab car kata jangan
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Current RapidKL bus only 1 hour once. Very bad. But much less passengers now. So maybe that is their excuse. But when you need to use the bus, yilek. So yes, bring back bus mini. etan26 liked this post
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QUOTE(freakingringo @ Jun 15 2023, 01:12 PM) If bus mini is private enterprise..its not going to be helpful..it will be profit orientated..they only choose the profitable routes and during peak hours... Can always regulate the pricing and servicing routeThis post has been edited by bananajoe: Jun 15 2023, 01:17 PM |
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finally, please improve the public transport system.
i believed mini bus + good system can do many good then not doing anything. |
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Remove petrol subsidy and automatically everyone take public transport. No need bus mini ka, wilayah ka. It's all supply and demand.
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Jun 15 2023, 01:22 PM
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QUOTE(Hobbez @ Jun 15 2023, 01:16 PM) Current RapidKL bus only 1 hour once. Very bad. Actually as a guy who passes by some LRT stations that doubles as Rapid depots i can tell you during peak its not their faultBut much less passengers now. So maybe that is their excuse. But when you need to use the bus, yilek. So yes, bring back bus mini. All of them are stuck at the station. They cant budge kek. Kesian also the driver during those times Now if mini busses can ply the less busier roads and served the suburbs better i see got some potential here |
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Jun 15 2023, 01:26 PM
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what about songthaew and tuktuk?
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Jun 15 2023, 01:28 PM
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car lovers kasi input on public transportation...malaysia memang terbaik
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we need cheap labour then everybady no money then can ride the bus
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HK is in the midst of changing all their buses to electric
and we're doing this |
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Jun 15 2023, 01:38 PM
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Herd mentality when ran out of ideas
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Tambang 60 sen sekali naik
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Jun 15 2023, 01:47 PM
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What is needed is feeder busses to/from all LRT/MRT stations to encourage people not to drive. Coverage must be extensive so the most anyone has to walk is 200/300 meters from their home, and max every 5 minute during peak hours.
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Jun 15 2023, 01:47 PM
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mini bus higher running cost and need more driver. Now a day, not many people wanted to drive bus anymore, good luck looking for driver.
You just need a system that can track the buses live location and prevent them from sneaking will be very good. |
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Just improve rapid kenot
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QUOTE(Mattrock @ Jun 15 2023, 01:47 PM) What is needed is feeder busses to/from all LRT/MRT stations to encourage people not to drive. Coverage must be extensive so the most anyone has to walk is 200/300 meters from their home, and max every 5 minute during peak hours. last time also I belip everyone walk a lot. like me sg way have to walk half a km to the nearest bus stop, then when arrived at kotaraya I have to walk again and take another mini bus.walk walk walk... |
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Bus driver attitude also is a problem, like to take long and many breaks for tea time, prayers etc
Better to implement with autonomous driving, no need those drivers |
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Jun 15 2023, 02:17 PM
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malaysians mostly are BOB (badan orang besar)
mana boleh fit in mini bus? |
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Jun 15 2023, 02:19 PM
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EV mini bus… hnnngggg.
Good for first and last miles. Make it pink! This post has been edited by mick84: Jun 15 2023, 02:21 PM |
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Tuk-tuk is the best. They can wait anywhere there is high people traffic, i.e., condos, shop lots, restaurants, office blocks, malls, lrt stations, etc. to handle the last mile.
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Support the idea. Temporarily.
Only allow me to hold the door handle bar bergayut around KL. Sekali lagi. Then please throw the idea into tong sampah vavi mini pink bus horrible experience kena push squeeze into the back or middle. |
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Just resign la bodo. Can't even solve such a simple issue
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lol he wants to bring back bus mini concept, not the freaking pink bus mini. why so many people salty we can do eco friendly modern cashless bus mini servicing less populated routes to mrt stations. right now bus panjang2 pun org tak naik. the implementation confirm like taik since malaysia but the idea can be polished more. niakulah liked this post
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QUOTE(gnc88 @ Jun 15 2023, 12:50 PM) QUOTE(No Wear Mask @ Jun 15 2023, 12:51 PM) Yep, hitting the reverse gear. Other SEA countries move forward we move backwards. Why backwards? It's only logical. It's easier to deploy lots of small busses than 1 full bus. This increases frequency and improves consistency too. Even better at the expense of private companies. Honestly, I'd question why it was gone in the first place. It's perfect for city roads.Really proving what Jocelyn Chia say is correct. An undeveloped country. This post has been edited by ctwice: Jun 15 2023, 02:40 PM yhtan liked this post
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mini bus last time rempit kaokao... still want bring back mini bus... hahaha
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this mini bus idea is good lah, i bet u all don't see the positive side of it.
Plenty of PPR, condo and housing area with car park at roadside and making it narrow, with this mini bus it is much easier for them to enter residential area. |
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QUOTE(gnc88 @ Jun 15 2023, 12:50 PM) Improve public transport = make more walk way = alot of money needed.And with walkway built, rempit, Pisang goreng stall, buahbuahan stall, hueger stal all flood in and don't forget those abandon vehicles and rubbishes too fongsk26 liked this post
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It was convenience last time... until it was too much. they merempit like hell but we rarely saw any accident of it or heard any that was crazy.
the frequency is crazy... since they chase trip... more trip means more money. Until rapid come with aircond bus all become strawberry and choose it less and the bus condition was worse so... good bye. |
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 15 2023, 08:56 AM) look so kawaiii weiiican be used as tourist attraction make sure its on time la hehe JimbeamofNRT liked this post
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Jun 15 2023, 03:05 PM
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for urban area.. S-bahn better .. but need alot of forward planning and political will.
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Pakai Ev mini bus la, jimat petrol ah
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 15 2023, 02:01 PM) nah, I belip less women will take gojek in kl ( due to security issues ), but we need this gojek as last mile service I agree as well. Anyway, A Loke did mention they are considering Gojek as well, some time back. Let’s wait and seeeasier for me to go to pu-cheong on gojek rather than to drive there |
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QUOTE(AyamBlend @ Jun 15 2023, 02:51 PM) Improve public transport = make more walk way = alot of money needed. That’s our dilemma, isn’t it. Any empty spaces will be used for hawkers.And with walkway built, rempit, Pisang goreng stall, buahbuahan stall, hueger stal all flood in and don't forget those abandon vehicles and rubbishes too |
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masuk dalam sikit
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Good, but no monopolize please.
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 15 2023, 02:01 PM) nah, I belip less women will take gojek in kl ( due to security issues ), but we need this gojek as last mile service Can consider scooters as well. Like those beam for rents. But have to regulate or come up with some guidelines else they also become roadkilleasier for me to go to pu-cheong on gojek rather than to drive there But you'd be surprised, I've actually seen a young lady use a non electric one regularly take it from her office to the LRT station. Every evening when I fetch my kids, timing is right can see her pushing off her scooter. Topkek I cut her earlier she cuts me back later when I'm waiting in the jam This post has been edited by 9m2w: Jun 15 2023, 03:39 PM |
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Jun 15 2023, 03:41 PM
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Support this as some roads in PJ are quite narrow
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QUOTE(WyjSwmW @ Jun 15 2023, 12:52 PM) Meanwhile Singapore already using EV buses Meanwhile escalator in Bdr Tasik Selatan LRT still rosak Meanwhile automated ticket machine still rosak QUOTE(acbc @ Jun 15 2023, 12:55 PM) QUOTE(MegaCanonF @ Jun 15 2023, 12:56 PM) We have EV Bus for few years already - GOKL Green bus.PJ transit bus are all EV. |
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you can bring back the bus, but you can't bring back those good old times
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 15 2023, 12:56 PM) QUOTE(Aaron212 @ Jun 15 2023, 02:59 PM) This bus is the HINO Poncho. It was brought to Malaysia as testing vehicle. ![]() Who knows, maybe Anthony Loke will consider this mini-bus. yhtan and JimbeamofNRT liked this post
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untung la /k.
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Jun 15 2023, 04:02 PM
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Those who don't take busses but criticize the movement...
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Jun 15 2023, 04:04 PM
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I want van, like Thailand and Indonesia
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QUOTE(Red_rustyjelly @ Jun 15 2023, 04:02 PM) ktards many funny ppl.Want improve traffic, but belittle others who take public transport... niakulah liked this post
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Jun 15 2023, 04:06 PM
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QUOTE(fu'house @ Jun 15 2023, 03:25 PM) Support the idea. Temporarily. The best experience is after raining especially got amoi awek wearing white baju kurung school uniform. The conductor shouting masuk lagi masuk lagi and you really got no choice but to have body contact Only allow me to hold the door handle bar bergayut around KL. Sekali lagi. Then please throw the idea into tong sampah vavi mini pink bus horrible experience kena push squeeze into the back or middle. |
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Jun 15 2023, 04:09 PM
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Mini bus good ma... so many back then, u want go from Petaling Street to Kota raya just hop on, sekajap sampai and ramai lagi. Damn fast and easy to travel back then.
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QUOTE(heathcliffx @ Jun 15 2023, 02:39 PM) The problem is driver attitude. Try tackle that head on instead of blanket ban of mini bus.Ktards really funny, like to mock govt like to ban things, but ironically supporting irrational bans in real life. niakulah liked this post
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Jun 15 2023, 04:12 PM
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Jun 15 2023, 04:19 PM
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i think can la. small form factor bus/van with say 10 mins freq to round up the small area and feed ppl into main arteries.
i see lotsa ppl drive to thosr main bus hubs/lrt station for public transport. question is , can surivie and make money. i think cannot lo. will run at loss something more concise for last might might be better gua? prebook service, similar to cyberjaya dts or that nature. |
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Jun 15 2023, 04:34 PM
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apa kebodohan ni bring back bass mini.... ini macem bas mini jenis ada aircond ke tak? drift bas driver and bus ticket conductor, Bus mini to fit 30 to 35 ppl again..... belakang ada tempat lagi masuk lagi..
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Jun 15 2023, 06:01 PM
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Jun 15 2023, 06:06 PM
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When everyone bash the public transport, I support his move. Having extra buses even if is diesel help the traffic and pollution Everyone jump On the band wagon want modern buses. Normal bus also can't do well want introduce new buses. Right now put on more buses, we kecam. Seriously what Rakyat Malaysian want? niakulah liked this post
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Jun 15 2023, 06:22 PM
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Minibus is just nolgastic only. If bring back now, it won't be cheap, it won't be comfortable, and it won't be convenient. Last time bus driver can survive on 0.60 fare because bus is fully packed to the rim and no need aircon. Now strawberry expectations different already. Cost to run a bus also different already.
Just ask any minister whether they gonna accept a job which fare is 0.60 and they have to pay to maintain and fuel that bus themselves. |
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Jun 15 2023, 06:29 PM
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Meanwhile laos got speedtrain.
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Mini busses are suitable for certain last-mile destinations especially areas with smaller roads and hills
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Jun 15 2023, 06:37 PM
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the idea is good but cannot be implimented
who gonna be driver, ticket conductor and ticket inspector... hired foreigner izit ? |
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bring those KK style Hiace bas mini to KV
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Jun 15 2023, 07:21 PM
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Jun 15 2023, 07:23 PM
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yes good idea. they are fast and agile , and once full they move out. there are some routes need to fill . i use mini for years and think this better that the big stage buses that is always full/late. |
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Jun 15 2023, 07:25 PM
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Good idea
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Jun 15 2023, 07:26 PM
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Not 80s 90s mini bus la. It's new electric mini bus produced by BYD.
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I can see where such mini buses can be very useful to certain commuters. Hopefully it can work out.
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Why backwards pulak? We need more transportation going to trains / mrt / airport JimbeamofNRT liked this post
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Jun 15 2023, 07:46 PM
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New gen can now go through what their parents gen experience. Woohooo...
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Jun 15 2023, 07:49 PM
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QUOTE(No Wear Mask @ Jun 15 2023, 01:51 PM) Yep, hitting the reverse gear. Other SEA countries move forward we move backwards. you never see a tuk tuk in bangkok ? Really proving what Jocelyn Chia say is correct. An undeveloped country. or a ojek in jakarta or a jeepney in manila ... a minibus in HK ... i guess you never travel in SEA |
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Jun 15 2023, 07:51 PM
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QUOTE(bananajoe @ Jun 15 2023, 07:47 PM) can do like China Town bus, stops at all station on its route, with every station announcement like LRT and fixed fare regardless of distance traveledThis post has been edited by kel32: Jun 15 2023, 07:57 PM |
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QUOTE(Momo33 @ Jun 15 2023, 07:49 PM) you never see a tuk tuk in bangkok ? Malaysia's vision is to be like Singapore ya? Its not to copy the rest ya? or a ojek in jakarta or a jeepney in manila ... a minibus in HK ... i guess you never travel in SEA That was initial planning but Malaysia too weak so have to go backwards. No Wear Mask liked this post
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Jun 15 2023, 07:59 PM
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QUOTE(9m2w @ Jun 15 2023, 12:55 PM) Mini bus succeeded not just because of size but because of free market. It was in the interest of the bus driver and conductor to be as efficient as possible to maximise profit. This is the worst thing that can happen to public transport. Back in the 80s, Penang used to have pretty efficient public transport. Buses would pass by certain routes on schedule, mostly hourly. Alot of ppl also say this model is the best. But I bet once they realise this model also leads to overloading and speeding bus drivers they will then say Rapid KL number one and ban mini bus Then these "free market" buses came along. It was a nightmare. Drivers sitting in half full buses waiting for more passengers, refusing to move. Outside of peak hours, forget about taking buses. The Gerakan led Penang state govt back then had to beg Pak Lah to bring in Rapid Penang to save the public transport system. edit: sos kicap http://lib.perdana.org.my/PLF/Malaysiakini...ini/2/65454.pdf This post has been edited by loserguy: Jun 15 2023, 08:12 PM |
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QUOTE(30624770 @ Jun 15 2023, 08:10 PM) 70s and maybe early 80s. There were two sizes of minibus, this HK size one and the bigger one. If two buses were coming together, people would rather take the bigger bus. Eventually the smaller HK size bus disappeared and left with the big size minibus which last from 80s to 90s. |
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QUOTE(vhs @ Jun 15 2023, 09:12 PM) 70s and maybe early 80s. There were two sizes of minibus, this HK size one and the bigger one. If two buses were coming together, people would rather take the bigger bus. This type? Actually this type was the original minibus but their capacity was too small and after some time a lot of minibus owners upgrade to the bigger ones because they earn more and it became sort of standard until they were all painted pink. Eventually the smaller HK size bus disappeared and left with the big size minibus which last from 80s to 90s. ![]() The old minibus system were not really controlled by government and they caused a lot of safety issues. If government reintroduced minibus, they need to control and regulate them like how HK does it. |
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QUOTE(bananajoe @ Jun 15 2023, 08:15 PM) Private buses are very bad.It will end up like taxis. The "bus companies" will rent out buses to the drivers. The rent seekers already have their profit from the rental, and it is up to the drivers to maximize whatever they can get from the buses. Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it. http://lib.perdana.org.my/PLF/Malaysiakini...ini/2/65454.pdf |
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QUOTE(30624770 @ Jun 15 2023, 08:20 PM) This type? Actually this type was the original minibus but their capacity was too small and after some time a lot of minibus owners upgrade to the bigger ones because they earn more and it became sort of standard until they were all painted pink. Wow you found it. Not easy to find image of such minibus nowadays.![]() The old minibus system were not really controlled by government and they caused a lot of safety issues. If government reintroduced minibus, they need to control and regulate them like how HK does it. |
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QUOTE(loserguy @ Jun 15 2023, 07:59 PM) This is the worst thing that can happen to public transport. Back in the 80s, Penang used to have pretty efficient public transport. Buses would pass by certain routes on schedule, mostly hourly. Post here can see who really ride the mini bus back then and who didn't. Then these "free market" buses came along. It was a nightmare. Drivers sitting in half full buses waiting for more passengers, refusing to move. Outside of peak hours, forget about taking buses. The Gerakan led Penang state govt back then had to beg Pak Lah to bring in Rapid Penang to save the public transport system. edit: sos kicap http://lib.perdana.org.my/PLF/Malaysiakini...ini/2/65454.pdf Half an hour become two hour trip. If they were so great they would still be around. |
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QUOTE(LamboSama @ Jun 15 2023, 08:25 PM) Post here can see who really ride the mini bus back then and who didn't. I used to take the public buses back before they privatized it. It was very efficient. Miss one bus, you can be sure one hour later, the bus will be back.Half an hour become two hour trip. If they were so great they would still be around. After that for nostalgia's sake I took one of these private buses once. It was a nightmare. Never again. |
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QUOTE(loserguy @ Jun 15 2023, 07:59 PM) This is the worst thing that can happen to public transport. Back in the 80s, Penang used to have pretty efficient public transport. Buses would pass by certain routes on schedule, mostly hourly. In KL not all busses waited for passengers. The mini busses that plied the PJ KL routes would keep on moving. That route always will have ppl. So for them its speeding and overloadingThen these "free market" buses came along. It was a nightmare. Drivers sitting in half full buses waiting for more passengers, refusing to move. Outside of peak hours, forget about taking buses. The Gerakan led Penang state govt back then had to beg Pak Lah to bring in Rapid Penang to save the public transport system. edit: sos kicap http://lib.perdana.org.my/PLF/Malaysiakini...ini/2/65454.pdf Its at the old Bangkok Bank and Kota Raya stops where you had the Sri Jaya busses heading into places like Cheras and Hulu Langat that waited abit. Usually from ppl alighting off the mini busses. Anywhere from 15 minutes to 45 minutes. But yeah got good got bad with free market. Have to find a balance. Rapid is bleeding and dont have the capacity to server the smaller roads. Free enterprises...well you just mentioned their dark side |
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QUOTE(LamboSama @ Jun 15 2023, 09:25 PM) Post here can see who really ride the mini bus back then and who didn't. Huh? You do know that minibus are super efficient. They are the real express bus and a lot of people like to take them because you can reach destinations a lot faster.Half an hour become two hour trip. If they were so great they would still be around. They were phased out because our government had a great idea to park all transportation into prasarana instead of regulating the private bus operators. Tun M punya great crony ideas. Origins when all private bus companies were phased out and the new buses under prasarana came out, everyone love them as they were major upgrade compared to minibuses and private bus companies but after there were no competition, everything became worse. |
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QUOTE(loserguy @ Jun 15 2023, 08:21 PM) Private buses are very bad. Ah yes, make sense alsoIt will end up like taxis. The "bus companies" will rent out buses to the drivers. The rent seekers already have their profit from the rental, and it is up to the drivers to maximize whatever they can get from the buses. Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it. http://lib.perdana.org.my/PLF/Malaysiakini...ini/2/65454.pdf |
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QUOTE(9m2w @ Jun 15 2023, 09:32 PM) In KL not all busses waited for passengers. The mini busses that plied the PJ KL routes would keep on moving. That route always will have ppl. So for them its speeding and overloading Don’t forget Tong Fung and Foh Hup buses operating from Puduraya. Private companies should be able to make transportation more efficient but they need to be regulated tightly so that what the past won’t come back.Its at the old Bangkok Bank and Kota Raya stops where you had the Sri Jaya busses heading into places like Cheras and Hulu Langat that waited abit. Usually from ppl alighting off the mini busses. Anywhere from 15 minutes to 45 minutes. But yeah got good got bad with free market. Have to find a balance. Rapid is bleeding and dont have the capacity to server the smaller roads. Free enterprises...well you just mentioned their dark side |
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QUOTE(30624770 @ Jun 15 2023, 08:32 PM) Huh? You do know that minibus are super efficient. They are the real express bus and a lot of people like to take them because you can reach destinations a lot faster. They were phased out because our government had a great idea to park all transportation into prasarana instead of regulating the private bus operators. Tun M punya great crony ideas. Origins when all private bus companies were phased out and the new buses under prasarana came out, everyone love them as they were major upgrade compared to minibuses and private bus companies but after there were no competition, everything became worse. People talking about these bus ![]() ![]() This post has been edited by LamboSama: Jun 15 2023, 09:03 PM |
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QUOTE(9m2w @ Jun 15 2023, 08:32 PM) In KL not all busses waited for passengers. The mini busses that plied the PJ KL routes would keep on moving. That route always will have ppl. So for them its speeding and overloading In Penang it was horrible, the buses refused to move during off peak hours. Can easily go > 1-2 hours without moving from the bus depot. I never realized it was so bad until one of my friends conned me into trying it again.Its at the old Bangkok Bank and Kota Raya stops where you had the Sri Jaya busses heading into places like Cheras and Hulu Langat that waited abit. Usually from ppl alighting off the mini busses. Anywhere from 15 minutes to 45 minutes. But yeah got good got bad with free market. Have to find a balance. Rapid is bleeding and dont have the capacity to server the smaller roads. Free enterprises...well you just mentioned their dark side edit: The government's job is to spend money! If it is profitable leave it to the private sector. Public transport is one of those loss making things that the government should spend on. This post has been edited by loserguy: Jun 15 2023, 08:44 PM |
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 15 2023, 12:56 PM) Yup they tried this back in 2019https://www.astroawani.com/berita-malaysia/...hari-ini-216450 In the end stop the same reason the original stop. A small bus cost more per passenger. The reason why London introduced the double decker rather than mini buses. Malaysia bus main issue is being stuck behind traffic and cars parked on bus lane/on the road. Not the bus size. This post has been edited by LamboSama: Jun 15 2023, 08:45 PM |
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QUOTE(jurkflash @ Jun 15 2023, 12:55 PM) not sure everyone aware or not that most buses in KL are big, cant even drive thru those taman. mini bus or smaller bus can solve this problem. cukurlah, now, taman road can be filled with buses.. bestest is can drop the passenger in front of thier house..This post has been edited by brkli: Jun 15 2023, 08:46 PM |
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As usual Bangla dominant, trust me. Free ride pagi2 Bangla dominant already.
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but they were lawless,.. their only target is maximum passengers on a single trip,.. it's dam packed liao,.. still yelling "masuk, masuk !! boleh lagi boleh lagi !!!,.. oiiii tengah masuk belakang sikit !!,.. ada orang nak masuk !!,.." loserguy liked this post
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QUOTE(LamboSama @ Jun 15 2023, 09:06 PM) They are the same private buses company that also run the smaller buses. We are talking about the mini buses specially the ones that plied the routes between KL to it's surrounding suburbsThey phase out the small bus for a reason. If you think mini buses are only pink in colour really shows you never use them before. You are so hard up on proving who rode and didn't ride on it until colour scheme also come out Kek. How the heck is that relevant Got prize is it? And no. I don't subscribe to cronyism that doomed the mini busses in KL and ushered in the Intrakota Complaints were too many especially safety. This post has been edited by 9m2w: Jun 15 2023, 09:11 PM |
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if so okay then
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QUOTE(9m2w @ Jun 15 2023, 09:11 PM) We are talking about the mini buses specially the ones that plied the routes between KL to it's surrounding suburbs Maybe you should read the post I was replying to rather than suddenly jumping in.You are so hard up on proving who rode and didn't ride on it until colour scheme also come out Kek. Got prize is it? And no. I don't subscribe to cronyism that doomed the mini busses in KL and ushered in the Intrakota Complaints were too many especially safety. KL isn't the only place with mini buses and private bus company. |
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I agree! Electric mini bus to service the suburbs
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Jun 15 2023, 09:15 PM
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Tuktuk better. Please introduce to our country. Every country in sea got this type of transportation.
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QUOTE(9m2w @ Jun 15 2023, 09:16 PM) But my reply to you was chief. Cos it wasn't a mini bus. And the guy I replied to was talking about express bus and claiming it's efficiencies babe.But I also don't know why colour scheme and badge of honor for riding mini bus came out kek Those buses were pretty much the same size and runs the same method as mini buses. Fill up first then only move. Those companies also has mini buses, yet they phase it out. RapidKL also tried it and still phase it out. Dunno why people still think it's a good idea. ![]() Some people really think mini bus are much different in size to current bus. This post has been edited by LamboSama: Jun 15 2023, 09:23 PM |
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80's kids: i wonder if we will have flying cars in 2020. 2020+: MINI BUS: SURPISE MOTHERFUCKERS! loserguy liked this post
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QUOTE(LamboSama @ Jun 15 2023, 09:19 PM) And the guy I replied to was talking about express bus and claiming it's efficiencies babe. Yup fair pointThose buses were pretty much the same size and runs the same method as minj buses. Fill up first then only move. Those companies also has mini buses, yet they phase it out. RapidKL also tried it and still phase it out. Dunno why people still think it's a good idea. Another pitfall of free enterprise I guess But mini busses plying the city to suburbs route never bothered to wait. Unlike the bigger bas kilang size counterparts that plied the longer routes. Downtown to Cheras, Hulu Langat and also Rawang. Their problem was overloading and speeding So its possible for mini busses to solve some of our problems provided there are oversight |
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Jun 15 2023, 09:28 PM
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QUOTE(9m2w @ Jun 15 2023, 09:23 PM) Yup fair point Even suburbs also malaysia has the same issue. Vehicles being park on the road making the road smaller.Another pitfall of free enterprise I guess But mini busses plying the city to suburbs route never bothered to wait. Unlike the bigger bas kilang size counterparts that plied the longer routes. Downtown to Cheras, Hulu Langat and also Rawang. Their problem was overloading and speeding So its possible for mini busses to solve some of our problems provided there are oversight Cars also now has to squeeze between parked car. Two lanes become one lane. Until that is solved no amount of mini buses can affect the traffic and inefficiencies it caused. Not yet talk about bus top being turned into stalls.... |
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Bus mini pls
My area old and roads are narrow and now people park at roadside the rapidkl bus cannot go through. Bus mini really can solve this type of issue |
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QUOTE(30624770 @ Jun 15 2023, 04:07 PM) The best experience is after raining especially got amoi awek wearing white baju kurung school uniform. The conductor shouting masuk lagi masuk lagi and you really got no choice but to have body contact If happen few more days then start to itchy ask for her number right.Typical story secondary school student gatal batang see through that thin baju kurung basah, jatuh hati so easily. |
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Yes, please color it pink.
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QUOTE(fongsk26 @ Jun 15 2023, 03:21 PM) I agree as well. Anyway, A Loke did mention they are considering Gojek as well, some time back. Let’s wait and see if jakarta can have it, why not us? convenient first mile/last mile solutionQUOTE(9m2w @ Jun 15 2023, 03:39 PM) Can consider scooters as well. Like those beam for rents. But have to regulate or come up with some guidelines else they also become roadkill Beams are good, actually. Should have these more around the cityBut you'd be surprised, I've actually seen a young lady use a non electric one regularly take it from her office to the LRT station. Every evening when I fetch my kids, timing is right can see her pushing off her scooter. Topkek I cut her earlier she cuts me back later when I'm waiting in the jam fongsk26 liked this post
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Jun 15 2023, 04:04 PM) u mean like in sabah?![]() Skylinestar liked this post
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QUOTE(0300078 @ Jun 15 2023, 04:09 PM) Mini bus good ma... so many back then, u want go from Petaling Street to Kota raya just hop on, sekajap sampai and ramai lagi. Damn fast and easy to travel back then. err.... why u need to take mini bus from petaling st. to kotaraya? it is just a 5 minutes walk broif from central market/kotaraya to klcc, sungai wang ok lah |
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it will increased traffic jamed? lrt its not enough?
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QUOTE(littlegamer @ Jun 15 2023, 06:06 PM) When everyone bash the public transport, I support his move. many malaysians especially bangsar bubbles are hypocrite bastardsHaving extra buses even if is diesel help the traffic and pollution Everyone jump On the band wagon want modern buses. Normal bus also can't do well want introduce new buses. Right now put on more buses, we kecam. Seriously what Rakyat Malaysian want? they want cheap petrol, cheap car, cheap parking around town and expect the roads belong to them like during PKP make noise about public transport but actually clueless like F and never bother to try one u can see lots of them in this thread ask yourself, when was the last time u try the free GOKL bus? |
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It’s like bringing back cassette or Betamax and it’s good.
Ought to accept already gone with the wind..wanna bring back the mini bus ketiak smell..? lol This post has been edited by swanlover: Jun 16 2023, 09:05 AM |
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QUOTE(30624770 @ Jun 15 2023, 08:20 PM) This type? Actually this type was the original minibus but their capacity was too small and after some time a lot of minibus owners upgrade to the bigger ones because they earn more and it became sort of standard until they were all painted pink. I remember this one! the bus co. imported used one from hong kong back in the 70s![]() The old minibus system were not really controlled by government and they caused a lot of safety issues. If government reintroduced minibus, they need to control and regulate them like how HK does it. then they upgrade to this type in the 80s ![]() This post has been edited by JimbeamofNRT: Jun 16 2023, 09:10 AM |
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 16 2023, 09:00 AM) Ah OK, long time didn't take JimbeamofNRT liked this post
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Loke should mask on, jump into rapid bus to see if 98% bangla gosok him or not?
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QUOTE(bananajoe @ Jun 16 2023, 10:10 AM) I took feeder bus to MRT recently. The buses are definitely more comfortable than the old buses or minibus. I think even better than the old intrakota buses. The only problem is frequency as the bus is running every 30 mins. If not chasing time like go to work, then I don’t mind taking feeder buses as the bus stop is right in front of my house. For now, still prefer to drive to stations and take train but I am not even in Malaysia now 😝This post has been edited by 30624770: Jun 16 2023, 09:15 AM bananajoe liked this post
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QUOTE(30624770 @ Jun 16 2023, 09:15 AM) I took feeder bus to MRT recently. The buses are definitely more comfortable than the old buses or minibus. I think even better than the old intrakota buses. The only problem is frequency as the bus is running every 30 mins. If not chasing time like go to work, then I don’t mind taking feeder buses as the bus stop is right in front of my house. For now, still prefer to drive to stations and take train but I am not even in Malaysia now 😝 I Need to start taking one soon |
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QUOTE(30624770 @ Jun 16 2023, 09:15 AM) I took feeder bus to MRT recently. The buses are definitely more comfortable than the old buses or minibus. I think even better than the old intrakota buses. The only problem is frequency as the bus is running every 30 mins. If not chasing time like go to work, then I don’t mind taking feeder buses as the bus stop is right in front of my house. For now, still prefer to drive to stations and take train but I am not even in Malaysia now 😝 QUOTE(bananajoe @ Jun 16 2023, 09:16 AM) btw, you can actually use the PULSE apps to check the bus schedule and monitor the bus location in real timetoday, all you need is a hp and touch and go card This post has been edited by JimbeamofNRT: Jun 16 2023, 09:19 AM |
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Minibus...vellfire kah? Support support!
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QUOTE(LamboSama @ Jun 15 2023, 08:25 PM) Post here can see who really ride the mini bus back then and who didn't. drb lobbied gomen for that actuallyHalf an hour become two hour trip. If they were so great they would still be around. remember when , after a while, they also introduced their own mini bus service, pekan rider? ![]() problematic bus, always broke down This post has been edited by JimbeamofNRT: Jun 16 2023, 09:24 AM |
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Two important factors making busses viable as last mile transport.
1) Less than 10mins walk for any passengers to a bus station. 2) Intervals of less than 10mins So the issue is not only about number of busses. Does our city planners have proper connectivity plans and infrastructure to make it a viable mode for people? Who would even consider public transport of a 15mins journey becomes 1 hour? |
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QUOTE(RChance @ Jun 16 2023, 09:23 AM) Two important factors making busses viable as last mile transport. the answer is NO. especially in KL. as long got empty space die die developer will make condos.1) Less than 10mins walk for any passengers to a bus station. 2) Intervals of less than 10mins So the issue is not only about number of busses. Does our city planners have proper connectivity plans and infrastructure to make it a viable mode for people? Who would even consider public transport of a 15mins journey becomes 1 hour? |
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 16 2023, 09:18 AM) btw, you can actually use the PULSE apps to check the bus schedule and monitor the bus location in real time no, the app bus location is ETA, not real time. the bus might be late due to jam, or not running at all due to breakdown, etc. For some high volume area, pasarana try to maintain some service level with 'asal ada bas sampai' attitude, but for some local housing T routes, waiting for bus is a pain because you will never know if it is coming or not, or take short taxi ride, walk, etc.today, all you need is a hp and touch and go card |
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QUOTE(nghj @ Jun 16 2023, 09:27 AM) no, the app bus location is ETA, not real time. the bus might be late due to jam, or not running at all due to breakdown, etc. For some high volume area, pasarana try to maintain some service level with 'asal ada bas sampai' attitude, but for some local housing T routes, waiting for bus is a pain because you will never know if it is coming or not, or take short taxi ride, walk, etc. really kah?like GoKL apps it does stated in real time. bus coming straight to the bus stop, can see the plate number as well ----- after checking my current pulse apps, damn the apps now become so laggy I cant even check anything at all |
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 16 2023, 09:35 AM) really kah? PULSE just set countdown based on a bus schedule, every few X-mins depend on the route. if you really use the app and waiting for ride, you will be very disappointed, or just read the app reviews.like GoKL apps it does stated in real time. bus coming straight to the bus stop, can see the plate number as well ----- after checking my current pulse apps, damn the apps now become so laggy I cant even check anything at all and the pulse app routing is stupid, not optimized. You will get much better routes on googlemaps. if you hate your friends, recommend the PULSE app, then blame everything on rapidkl. This post has been edited by nghj: Jun 16 2023, 09:41 AM JimbeamofNRT liked this post
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QUOTE(RChance @ Jun 16 2023, 09:23 AM) Two important factors making busses viable as last mile transport. I think you need to lower your expectations. Intervals of less than 10 mins is not likely. If a round trip is 1 hour, a 10 minute interval will mean 6 buses servicing that route.1) Less than 10mins walk for any passengers to a bus station. 2) Intervals of less than 10mins So the issue is not only about number of busses. Does our city planners have proper connectivity plans and infrastructure to make it a viable mode for people? Who would even consider public transport of a 15mins journey becomes 1 hour? 15 mins by car does not include the time and hassle to hunt for a parking lot. You do not have to park a bus lol. The newer townships have proper pedestrian walkways, but very few have it as nice as Sinjiapor. |
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 16 2023, 08:54 AM) many malaysians especially bangsar bubbles are hypocrite bastards I’ll be honest. I do take the free Selangor bus from Lotus Puchong to Pyramid regularly. I take LRT from Giant BK to Lotus LRT as well. they want cheap petrol, cheap car, cheap parking around town and expect the roads belong to them like during PKP make noise about public transport but actually clueless like F and never bother to try one u can see lots of them in this thread ask yourself, when was the last time u try the free GOKL bus? I seldom take the monorail or MRT axis I seldom travel to KL. Hated the jams plus most of what I need are around me. I did take the ETS every fortnightly when I was working in Batu Gajah and Taiping for almost 4 years. Parked in Taiping ETS parking or Batu Gajah ETS parking. Nowadays, due to covid, I cut down on my public transportation and public window shopping. Have not gone for movies since almost 3+ years since the onset of Covid. Trying to go this time for the flash movie. I’m all for an efficient public transportation especially rail. Hate to take a plane for a 1 hour flight and at least 2 hours preparation and what-nots. If rail, can arrive 30 mins before and voila! And more freedom when taking the rail. JimbeamofNRT liked this post
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loke dun listen to pj old folks that talk about old times
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QUOTE(fongsk26 @ Jun 16 2023, 10:18 AM) I’ll be honest. I do take the free Selangor bus from Lotus Puchong to Pyramid regularly. I take LRT from Giant BK to Lotus LRT as well. Great to hear that bro.I seldom take the monorail or MRT axis I seldom travel to KL. Hated the jams plus most of what I need are around me. I did take the ETS every fortnightly when I was working in Batu Gajah and Taiping for almost 4 years. Parked in Taiping ETS parking or Batu Gajah ETS parking. Nowadays, due to covid, I cut down on my public transportation and public window shopping. Have not gone for movies since almost 3+ years since the onset of Covid. Trying to go this time for the flash movie. I’m all for an efficient public transportation especially rail. Hate to take a plane for a 1 hour flight and at least 2 hours preparation and what-nots. If rail, can arrive 30 mins before and voila! And more freedom when taking the rail. pyramid parking these days is kinda a nightmare tbh. selangor free bus is not that bad actually, I also dunno why local dont want to utilize it rickyro liked this post
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QUOTE(zenix @ Jun 16 2023, 11:19 AM) loke dun listen to pj old folks that talk about old times It is to encourage more people to take public transport and reduce the jams.u add more busses now just going to make more jam Don't do anything about public transport, complain. Now trying something, also complain! gundamsp01 liked this post
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 16 2023, 10:24 AM) Great to hear that bro. Pyramid parking has poor maintenance. The green/red signal on top of the parking lots are not functional, quite a lot of it. Used to like this function as it is easy to spot vacant spots but now…..pyramid parking these days is kinda a nightmare tbh. selangor free bus is not that bad actually, I also dunno why local dont want to utilize it I think an efficient public transportation is the way to go, especially the last mile. In Spore, they have company buses/trucks waiting at MRT stations to fetch workers to their factories and also feeder buses to fetch workers as well for those SME. This is what is missing in Malaysia. Look at Puchong for instance. The pusat Bandar Puchong LRT. There is no feeder buses to fetch workers to the pasta perindustrian Puchong or the frequency is not there. Worst is the Shah Alam KTM. You are practically at the mercy of the taxi drivers if you take the KTM. That’s why A. Loke is doing the right move to improve the last mile. He did mentioned use of vans, gojek and now bas mini. I think he also have to consider the bus stations and also safety. Ideally a covered bus stations with sufficient ventilation unlike now which is open air with a roof. Make it comfortable for people to wait for buses. And if night time, brightly lit plus safe (ie a police presence or constant police car around). Slowly build the trust of public back to the public transportation. Not going to be easy but can change. This post has been edited by fongsk26: Jun 16 2023, 10:36 AM |
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QUOTE(fongsk26 @ Jun 16 2023, 10:33 AM) Pyramid parking has poor maintenance. The green/red signal on top of the arming lots are not functional, quite a lot of it. Used to like this function as it is easy to spot vacant spots but now….. Well said.I think an efficient public transportation is the way to go, especially the last mile. In Spore, they have company buses/trucks waiting at MRT stations to fetch workers to their factories and also feeder buses to fetch workers as well for those SME. This is what is missing in Malaysia. Look at Puchong for instance. The pusat Bandar Puchong LRT. There is no feeder buses to fetch workers to the pasta perindustrian Puchong or the frequency is not there. Worst is the Shah Alam KTM. You are practically at the mercy of the taxi drivers if you take the KTM. That’s why A. Loke is doing the right move to improve the last mile. He did mentioned use of vans, gojek and now bas mini. I think he also have to consider the bus stations and also safety. Ideally a covered bus stations with sufficient ventilation unlike now which is open air with a roof. Make it comfortable for people to wait for buses. And if night time, brightly lit plus safe (ie a police presence or constant police car around). Slowly build the trust of public back to the public transportation. Not going to be easy but can change. there are many missing links actually, even in KV itself nowadays I use moovit apps for public transport there is this one free bas selangorku from lrt puchong towards sunway pyramid and ss15 as well. SJ02. did u take that one to pyramid? fongsk26 liked this post
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 16 2023, 10:44 AM) Well said. Used to since it is so convenient, comfortable and free.😂😂😂there are many missing links actually, even in KV itself nowadays I use moovit apps for public transport there is this one free bas selangorku from lrt puchong towards sunway pyramid and ss15 as well. SJ02. did u take that one to pyramid? Since covid, I took it like 3 or 4 times cos I try to reduce public exposure until I feel really comfortable about covid. As I know, we are still in the endemic stage and have not gone fully open yet for covid control. JimbeamofNRT liked this post
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QUOTE(30624770 @ Jun 16 2023, 10:30 AM) It is to encourage more people to take public transport and reduce the jams. most of pj is becoming an "old town" Don't do anything about public transport, complain. Now trying something, also complain! traffic is transitionary between two suburbs that are growing OKR area and Damansara |
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 16 2023, 08:50 AM) err.... why u need to take mini bus from petaling st. to kotaraya? it is just a 5 minutes walk bro tat was the goodness back then... bus everywhere.if from central market/kotaraya to klcc, sungai wang ok lah JimbeamofNRT liked this post
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It's basically adding more busses. Mini buss is efficient not because of the size mainly but because of the driver drive like crazy. Of course the size help for it to be driven that way. Nowadays is it possible for bus driver to drive like that?
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Some ppl here think getting that no aircond pink kaler bus? Please lar. Don't be idiot.
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Bas mini should only be for last mile connectivity. No more Chow yang to kota raya shit.
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Don’t want mini bus
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QUOTE(gnc88 @ Jun 15 2023, 12:50 PM) How is this going backward? LOL...Prasarana should not monopoly all public transport. In fact, back then when it was between Selangor bus and mini bus, things were fine. It was not until these bumi consortium like cityliner and intrakota started taking over and failing like the biggest snowfall in the history. Prasarana in the end bailout DRB Hicom by taking over Intrakota and I dont know what happened with Cityliner. |
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What they need are lots of buses, minibus or otherwise, to service lots of key connecting spots and branch out to various interconnecting routes, with minimal wait between buses. 30 minutes is too slow, even 20 minutes is too slow. 10 minutes should be the benchmark during peak hours. That means lots of buses and lots of drivers. Bus fare collection needs to be integrated so that people can just tap quickly to get in and out. In fact, just tap in will do and charge flat rate or by monthly pass. The total journey time in conjunction to rail should be more or less 1 hour for most people and comparable to driving and needs to be cheaper than driving. Then you will see many people switching to public transport.
But the cost side is a problem. That company is not going to make profit with cheap fare and lots of buses. Government will have to subsidize. Just like how Singapore subsidize their mass transit. If you want to compare to previous minibus fare of RM0.60, that was at a time when chicken rice normally costed RM2.00. So if compare to chicken rice price now, then a single trip bus fare will be RM3.00 without subsidies. Most people will consider that too expensive since most of the route won't be direct and require changing bus or to use the rails. |
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those who say mini bus super efficient.. let see how efficient it is going through this..
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Jun 17 2023, 08:34 AM) How is this going backward? LOL... it's all started when drb lobbied gomen ( read : mamakthir ) for the right to operate in KL back in early 90s. they think they can make $ from it and wanna eliminate the competitorsPrasarana should not monopoly all public transport. In fact, back then when it was between Selangor bus and mini bus, things were fine. It was not until these bumi consortium like cityliner and intrakota started taking over and failing like the biggest snowfall in the history. Prasarana in the end bailout DRB Hicom by taking over Intrakota and I dont know what happened with Cityliner. park may cityliner was bought by Konsortium Transnasional Bhd and they merged Cityliner Sdn Bhd, The Kuala Lumpur, Klang and Port Swettenham Omnibus Company Berhad, The Kuala Selangor Omnibus Company Berhad and Tanjung Karang Transportation Sdn Bhd operations. ![]() later abandoned This post has been edited by JimbeamofNRT: Jun 17 2023, 09:34 AM |
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Too late already....the current generation don't have the skill to drive Minibus. It will cause more jam, delays and worst, accident.
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QUOTE(vhs @ Jun 17 2023, 09:24 AM) What they need are lots of buses, minibus or otherwise, to service lots of key connecting spots and branch out to various interconnecting routes, with minimal wait between buses. 30 minutes is too slow, even 20 minutes is too slow. 10 minutes should be the benchmark during peak hours. That means lots of buses and lots of drivers. Bus fare collection needs to be integrated so that people can just tap quickly to get in and out. In fact, just tap in will do and charge flat rate or by monthly pass. The total journey time in conjunction to rail should be more or less 1 hour for most people and comparable to driving and needs to be cheaper than driving. Then you will see many people switching to public transport. solution:But the cost side is a problem. That company is not going to make profit with cheap fare and lots of buses. Government will have to subsidize. Just like how Singapore subsidize their mass transit. If you want to compare to previous minibus fare of RM0.60, that was at a time when chicken rice normally costed RM2.00. So if compare to chicken rice price now, then a single trip bus fare will be RM3.00 without subsidies. Most people will consider that too expensive since most of the route won't be direct and require changing bus or to use the rails. ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 17 2023, 09:44 AM) That's why need subsidies for it to work. It could not just leaves it to the drivers to manage the cost at low fare and expect people will be willing to take up this profession like back then. Previously at RM0.40 to RM0.60 per fare it was actually profitable for the drivers because the living cost was much lower then.This post has been edited by vhs: Jun 17 2023, 10:14 AM |
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Jun 15 2023, 12:55 PM) Japan and China surely produces mini bus Just look it up https://news.cgtn.com/news/3467544d31597a63...6d54/share.html Some bodoh think we use back the old bus? |
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QUOTE(fongsk26 @ Jun 16 2023, 10:18 AM) I’ll be honest. I do take the free Selangor bus from Lotus Puchong to Pyramid regularly. I take LRT from Giant BK to Lotus LRT as well. Come out to play. Come watch movie. You sound like a retired old unker, go when pipul are working; 10am onwards until 4pm then balik Puchong.I seldom take the monorail or MRT axis I seldom travel to KL. Hated the jams plus most of what I need are around me. I did take the ETS every fortnightly when I was working in Batu Gajah and Taiping for almost 4 years. Parked in Taiping ETS parking or Batu Gajah ETS parking. Nowadays, due to covid, I cut down on my public transportation and public window shopping. Have not gone for movies since almost 3+ years since the onset of Covid. Trying to go this time for the flash movie. I’m all for an efficient public transportation especially rail. Hate to take a plane for a 1 hour flight and at least 2 hours preparation and what-nots. If rail, can arrive 30 mins before and voila! And more freedom when taking the rail. If you are so scared, ride from puchong stations go to 1U or KL sentral confirm can watch movies. Within the mall-station. However better you go Sunway Pyramid try bus route. If not try LRT travel around the city. |
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QUOTE(vhs @ Jun 17 2023, 10:14 AM) That's why need subsidies for it to work. It could not just leaves it to the drivers to manage the cost at low fare and expect people will be willing to take up this profession like back then. Previously at RM0.40 to RM0.60 per fare it was actually profitable for the drivers because the living cost was much lower then. Indeed |
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QUOTE(swanlover @ Jun 16 2023, 09:13 AM) Loke should mask on, jump into rapid bus to see if 98% bangla gosok him or not? You very ignorant Unless there is a local and foreigner separated cabin, 100% local girls are very reluctant to take rapid..Lolx Plenty of amoi take bus you will be surprised Maybe coz the route i take is through bangsar |
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I used to take bus from KD to Damansara Uptown last time.
Mine was one of the earliest station so bus came on time, every day. The problem started when the bus reached busy area heading to damansara uptown. Even the bus stuck together with cars in traffic congestion and this made the bus be late at all the station after, and most people dubbed the bus as unreliable. The problem is not only the bus. But the whole road system. If the bus functions and drives the same lane like the car, then it defeats the purpose. the only difference between car and bus is that bus carry more late to work passenger than car. |
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QUOTE(brkli @ Jun 17 2023, 09:29 AM) those who say mini bus super efficient.. let see how efficient it is going through this.. This. I observed the same problem 10 years ago.![]() 2023 is not the 80s anymore.. underlying traffic issue never solved, but want add more to the traffic to make it more "efficient".. kek.. QUOTE(viole @ Jun 17 2023, 11:16 AM) I used to take bus from KD to Damansara Uptown last time. Mine was one of the earliest station so bus came on time, every day. The problem started when the bus reached busy area heading to damansara uptown. Even the bus stuck together with cars in traffic congestion and this made the bus be late at all the station after, and most people dubbed the bus as unreliable. The problem is not only the bus. But the whole road system. If the bus functions and drives the same lane like the car, then it defeats the purpose. the only difference between car and bus is that bus carry more late to work passenger than car. |
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QUOTE(vapanel @ Jun 17 2023, 11:29 AM) Then you can only tackle those lrt around the neighbourhood.Good luck try to reach mrt kajang for example, with 2 schools nearby, 1 college, few condos in the vicinity. Lrt subang at the back of subang parade and etc etc. imagine bus also need to brace through usj and the likes. Jam + so many bus stop + so many lrt station. End up people still go back to driving. |
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QUOTE(viole @ Jun 17 2023, 11:32 AM) Then you can only tackle those lrt around the neighbourhood. Tackle neighborhood around LRT is by having feeder mini bus 1 stop before mrt kajang and 1 stop after mrt kajang to cover all neighborhood in kajang Good luck try to reach mrt kajang for example, with 2 schools nearby, 1 college, few condos in the vicinity. Lrt subang at the back of subang parade and etc etc. imagine bus also need to brace through usj and the likes. Jam + so many bus stop + so many lrt station. End up people still go back to driving. Yes, I am genius This post has been edited by vapanel: Jun 17 2023, 11:35 AM |
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QUOTE(viole @ Jun 17 2023, 11:32 AM) Then you can only tackle those lrt around the neighbourhood. Same like Bahagia and KJ lines. They also double as bus depots and during peak hour the buses are trapped. Can't even exit the depot Good luck try to reach mrt kajang for example, with 2 schools nearby, 1 college, few condos in the vicinity. Lrt subang at the back of subang parade and etc etc. imagine bus also need to brace through usj and the likes. Jam + so many bus stop + so many lrt station. End up people still go back to driving. But with some planning mini buses may work. Have them ply the smaller roads to serve the suburbs. The roads that the bigger rapid KL buses avoid due to their size. Have passengers board the buses at the smaller roads. This post has been edited by 9m2w: Jun 17 2023, 11:37 AM |
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QUOTE(vhs @ Jun 17 2023, 10:14 AM) That's why need subsidies for it to work. It could not just leaves it to the drivers to manage the cost at low fare and expect people will be willing to take up this profession like back then. Previously at RM0.40 to RM0.60 per fare it was actually profitable for the drivers because the living cost was much lower then. Actually why it work back then is because everyone work for themselves. Every bus mini is a business itself... that's why they are maximizing their earnings by doing as much trip as possible. Some even change their route by changing the number of the roof on certain hours when the amount of passengers into the city is low. In comparison, now you have a timetable. Sometimes they follow, sometimes not. Even with this uncertainty, you want to subsidize these money sucker? |
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Jun 17 2023, 12:02 PM) Actually why it work back then is because everyone work for themselves. Every bus mini is a business itself... that's why they are maximizing their earnings by doing as much trip as possible. Some even change their route by changing the number of the roof on certain hours when the amount of passengers into the city is low. one of the way to overcome this is the bus having fixed stop along its route and a fixed price of rm2 regardless of km, a bus type LRT.In comparison, now you have a timetable. Sometimes they follow, sometimes not. Even with this uncertainty, you want to subsidize these money sucker? any road wide enough can have dedicated bus lanes to avoid the traffic. All link to apps for real time bus location and timetable. |
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Jun 17 2023, 12:02 PM) Actually why it work back then is because everyone work for themselves. Every bus mini is a business itself... that's why they are maximizing their earnings by doing as much trip as possible. Some even change their route by changing the number of the roof on certain hours when the amount of passengers into the city is low. Subsidies is based on the actual passenger fetched, hence subsidizing the fare each person has to pay. Look at the fuel cost today and the maintenance cost, it is clear that RM0.60 won't work, not even RM1.00 is unlikely to work, don't even need to talk about fixed monthly pass. If transportation fee is costly, most people won't find it viable and you end up building the infra but no one will use it. The subsidies allow the company to not be in red and yet passengers able to afford it. And it is fair, because you don't get money if no one is using. The benefits is actually to the passengers, not to feed crony.In comparison, now you have a timetable. Sometimes they follow, sometimes not. Even with this uncertainty, you want to subsidize these money sucker? Because the alternative which people want low fare and more buses, simply is not going to happen due to cost. This post has been edited by vhs: Jun 17 2023, 12:15 PM |
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QUOTE(kel32 @ Jun 17 2023, 12:10 PM) one of the way to overcome this is the bus having fixed stop along its route and a fixed price of rm2 regardless of km, a bus type LRT. Memang pun bus mini standard 60cents although sometimes they give discount when you wear uniform but that is not the point. The point is to maximize the trip, not set a timetable. Back then, have you ever stopped by road side and then asked to move to the bus in front to fill it? Yes, they even do this to save petrol and drove back the other way to reset the trip and avoid having two same buses doing the same thing and fighting over nothing. Now sometimes you see two same buses side by side and both not full.any road wide enough can have dedicated bus lanes to avoid the traffic. All link to apps for real time bus location and timetable. That's why they need to let private operators who are interested to plan their route and do it their own way. If you are going the same way as prasarana by setting up time table and lots of red tape, then it is definitely not going to work. |
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QUOTE(vhs @ Jun 17 2023, 12:14 PM) Subsidies is based on the actual passenger fetched, hence subsidizing the fare each person has to pay. Look at the fuel cost today and the maintenance cost, it is clear that RM0.60 won't work, not even RM1.00 is unlikely to work, don't even need to talk about fixed monthly pass. If transportation fee is costly, most people won't find it viable and you end up building the infra but no one will use it. The subsidies allow the company to not be in red and yet passengers able to afford it. And it is fair, because you don't get money if no one is using. The benefits is actually to the passengers, not to feed crony. You cannot subsidize them like that. You can fake passenger numbers. Its just like selling cheap diesel to boats that dont catch fish.Because the alternative which people want low fare and more buses, simply is not going to happen due to cost. |
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But talk is easy, have u guys actually jump into rapid bus and see for urself the passengers? Particularly KL route
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QUOTE(fu'house @ Jun 17 2023, 10:32 AM) Come out to play. Come watch movie. You sound like a retired old unker, go when pipul are working; 10am onwards until 4pm then balik Puchong. I am an old retired uncle, seriously. But I work from home now, consulting.If you are so scared, ride from puchong stations go to 1U or KL sentral confirm can watch movies. Within the mall-station. However better you go Sunway Pyramid try bus route. If not try LRT travel around the city. I usually watch movies with the family and kids. They are working. So the only time when it is not crowded are early sat or sun matinees. But we have not really taken the plunge yet. |
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QUOTE(fongsk26 @ Jun 20 2023, 03:11 PM) I am an old retired uncle, seriously. But I work from home now, consulting. You'd be surprised morning shows to noon = only a few holidaying students and you. A seat without anybody around you.I usually watch movies with the family and kids. They are working. So the only time when it is not crowded are early sat or sun matinees. But we have not really taken the plunge yet. Come watch Indy's last ride (I think lah too old already to go for another). Watch alone, for once? fongsk26 liked this post
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Jun 20 2023, 03:34 PM
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Indiana jones coming up with new movie. Now is a good time to revive bas mini! I always have Indiana Jones tune in my head when i grab the outside rail! fongsk26 liked this post
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Jun 20 2023, 05:28 PM
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QUOTE(fu'house @ Jun 20 2023, 03:25 PM) You'd be surprised morning shows to noon = only a few holidaying students and you. A seat without anybody around you. Yes, those morning matinees shows are practically empty. Yes, waiting for either Indy or Tom kurus mission movie to start again, hopefully can get over the phobia of kobis-19. Come watch Indy's last ride (I think lah too old already to go for another). Watch alone, for once? |
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Jun 21 2023, 10:15 AM
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Jun 21 2023, 10:19 AM
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QUOTE(swanlover @ Jun 17 2023, 02:04 PM) But talk is easy, have u guys actually jump into rapid bus and see for urself the passengers? Particularly KL route that is why bas mini can help to improve. bas mini intervals are like every 15 mins. rapid like from 30-45 minutes, hence the crowded bus.i was lucky to had the opportunity to take bus mini when i was in F1. took it from Alam Megah to Kompleks PKNS every morning to school in Sec2 Shah Alam and fro. If it wasnt for the Bas Mini, i would reached home everyday around 9pm from school. |
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Aug 21 2023, 03:57 PM
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We need GOJEK
even Singapore got illegal GOJEK service now https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/food...aging-platforms SINGAPORE – Food delivery riders are moonlighting and offering illegal hitch rides on messaging platforms, with checks showing more than 10,500 messages in four chat groups on Telegram – mostly seeking rides. The groups have a total of about 50,000 members, which is about a sixth of the 300,000 members in the nine chat groups on Telegram offering illegal hitch car rides, The Straits Times found. -------------- https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/food...ometer-or-shoes SINGAPORE – It took all of two minutes for several riders to respond to The Straits Times team’s request for a hitch on one motorcycle-pooling group, to verify information it had learnt that some food delivery riders were offering illegal hitch rides on messaging platform Telegram. The request was for a ride at 3pm from Bukit Batok to Boon Lay, a distance of 12km by road. The first person to respond had little time for idle chat -------------- ![]() This post has been edited by JimbeamofNRT: Aug 21 2023, 03:59 PM |
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