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etan26
post Nov 5 2023, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(gaijin @ Nov 5 2023, 09:25 AM)
So if most people use aircons to sleep ~8 hrs/night , solar will not help reduce ?  blink.gif

Getting quite technical here to calculate watts etc .... when exactly does solar generates and offset , when there is daylight eg from 7am onwards or must have sunlight eg 10am onwards  blush.gif
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On normal months, I wouldn't even hit 1400kw but since got visitors for 3 weeks, it got past 1500 and 1600 for 2 months.
Yes, daytime the solar energy will offset TNB electric but no solar energy at night then solely used TNB and that's where the issue is.

The surplus solar electric will offset the total bill but after they calculate the ICPT charges, either negative or positive figures.

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post Nov 5 2023, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(etan26 @ Nov 5 2023, 10:16 AM)
So now I monitored online the usage. Nightly I switch off both my chest freezers since using TNB electric, morning switch on again. Cut down night aircond usage in the living/dining room area.

Hopefully, next month will go down to 1300kw or below.....
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But u said the spike is temporary got ppl come and stay. Now no more so should be okay.

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post Nov 5 2023, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(bee88 @ Nov 5 2023, 10:48 AM)
But u said the spike is temporary got ppl come and stay. Now no more so should be okay.
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Since kena 2 months paying extra RM200+ will make me more cautious ...

Just in case we over used airconds at evening/night.... will monitored first.... biggrin.gif

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post Nov 5 2023, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(etan26 @ Nov 5 2023, 10:52 AM)
Just in case we over used airconds at evening/night....  will monitored first.... biggrin.gif
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No la. The spike is definitely at night usage when ur guests blast air cons.

U said 3-4weeks. Thst easily 210 kWh extra per room for the whole month. .

If two rooms it’s 420 already.

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post Nov 5 2023, 10:56 AM

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Haiz. I wanna pasang oso. But bill monthly only 80-90.
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post Nov 5 2023, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(bee88 @ Nov 5 2023, 10:54 AM)
No la. The spike is definitely at night usage when ur guests blast air cons.

U said 3-4weeks. Thst easily 210 kWh extra per room for the whole month. .

If two rooms it’s 420 already.
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post Nov 5 2023, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(HafeesFadil @ Nov 5 2023, 10:56 AM)
Haiz. I wanna pasang oso. But bill monthly only 80-90.
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Can pasang je. No need to see if worth it.

Coz your bill is low because of govt subsidy.

Your actual bill could be rm200-300.

When u pasang already, it means u are ready to be on your own and no need to rely on govt subsidy. That’s one thing u can be proud of yourself.
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post Nov 5 2023, 11:13 AM

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Wow
Sleep a few nights ac already over 1500 kwh?
How many ac you sleeping with and at what temp?
I still don’t it makes ROI sense to switch to solar with the current subsidies which will continue for a long time.

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post Nov 5 2023, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(bee88 @ Nov 5 2023, 11:04 AM)
Can pasang je. No need to see if worth it.

Coz your bill is low because of govt subsidy.

Your actual bill could be rm200-300.

When u pasang already, it means u are ready to be on your own and no need to rely on govt subsidy. That’s one thing u can be proud of yourself.
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Why pay more for solar when you can pay less to tnb?
Got extra money throw to holidays or other things is also a gain
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post Nov 5 2023, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(dickybird @ Nov 5 2023, 11:18 AM)
Why pay more for solar when you can pay less to tnb?
Got extra money throw to holidays or other things is also a gain
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Tnb subsidy won’t be there forever. It could be removed anytime. Though is quite unlikely lah.

Btw, it’s won’t be paying more actually. Worse case is the amount u pay for to Tnb for 10 years will be enough to cover to one system. The Roi is 10 years.

But that doesn’t mean I encourage ppl to install when their bill is low lah. Just another perspective of looking at why wanna go solar je.
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post Nov 5 2023, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(bee88 @ Nov 5 2023, 11:28 AM)
Tnb subsidy won’t be there forever. It could be removed anytime. Though is quite unlikely lah.

Btw, it’s won’t be paying more actually. Worse case is the amount u pay for to Tnb for 10 years will be enough to cover to one system. The  Roi is 10 years.

But that doesn’t mean I encourage ppl to install when their bill is low lah. Just another perspective of looking at why wanna go solar je.
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Betul, spending abt 30k when bill is less than Rm800 is not feasible. Even if have EV, slow charge is ok and less consumption.

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post Nov 5 2023, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(pgsiemkia @ Nov 5 2023, 11:39 AM)
Betul, spending abt 30k when bill is less than Rm800 is not feasible. Even if have EV, slow charge is ok and less consumption.
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Rm800 bill usually solar cost will be around 40k. -50k

If rm80 bill, usually the cost will be 12-13k je.

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post Nov 27 2023, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(bee88 @ Nov 5 2023, 11:04 AM)
Can pasang je. No need to see if worth it.

Coz your bill is low because of govt subsidy.

Your actual bill could be rm200-300.

When u pasang already, it means u are ready to be on your own and no need to rely on govt subsidy. That’s one thing u can be proud of yourself.
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My bill also around rm80 plus per month. If after peasant, can get sell back to TNB and end up nett bill no need pay, is it possible?
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QUOTE(neekun @ Nov 27 2023, 03:58 PM)
My bill also around rm80 plus per month. If after peasant, can get sell back to TNB and end up nett bill no need pay, is it possible?
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Your bill is rm 80 or rm800? If rm80, . ur roi won’t be as good. Just u get to have a 0 bill.

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post Nov 27 2023, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(seeseetv @ Jun 9 2023, 06:28 PM)
Hi guys ,
Im dilemma of this three solar panel choice .

Alpha - 12.6kwh rm38k ( string inverter )
Solanatec - 13.6kwh rm42k ( string inverter )
Pathgreen - 13kwh rm46k ( micro inverter )

Or got any recommendation other than this three company .

For home use . Monthly bill around 700-900 .
Updated 12 june 23 : Thanks bee88 for guidance , now im going for micro inverters from GeenPath . Ill update this thread for results after the installation and so on .
Updated 8th October 23 :

Installation already completed on september 7th . Now is already 1 month after the solar installation .

30 days solar generated = 1440kwh .

My electric bill from RM650 drop to RM25 only .

During this 30 days of testing , i actually increase my electricity usage . I start to turn on my living room aircon 3-5 hours daily .
Pros of installing solar panel :
1) TNB electricity bill is subsidized and have tiers , it is cheaper for the first 300 kwh , and after 300kwh is about RM0.5 per kwh .

With solar , total kwh of the month will minus total solar generated , then only they will calculate according to the tier and bill you . In other words , the solar generated electricity will cover the most expensive tier for you .
2) With the new ICPT implementation,  if your electricity monthly usage is above 1500kwh , you will be charged about rm150 extra monthly .

But with solar system , it is almost impossible to reach 1500kwh . As during day time when the solar is generating electricity, it will actually supply to your home electricity before sending the surplus back to the grid .

Example :
Monthly usage 1600kwh , solar generated 1500kwh  .

But the meter will show 900kwh , solar generated 800kwh .

Coz the 700kwh is tallies during the day use .
3) You can have the freeeom to utilize air conditioner during hot days . Cause you will know that if it is a hot day , your solar will generate alot of electricity that day . This is a very good balance of temperature in your house , though not very environmentally friendly 😀
Why choose Pathgreen Sdn bhd ( non paid advertisement )

1) They offer micro-inverter at string-inverter price .

2) The price they propose is available for installment for up to 60 months .

3) They offer risk-shared plan after 5 years , which is not many solar company will offer . Quote from them " they are confident that their solar system will still perform well even after 5 years , hence they willing to share risk with buyer , they will charge 10% of your total solar generated every month and will cover every maintenance and repair work if needed "

His contact : Pathgeeen - Mr.Ihsan 014-9099471
*If i encounter any problem in the future ill also update on this thread . *
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great sharing and follow-up!

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post Nov 27 2023, 08:35 PM

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Use to had rm300-350 bill monthly. So just change both room AC to Inverter 5 stars. So far November bill heading to rm150+. 1.5hp normal aircond just that before this is an old AC also 1.5hp.

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post Nov 28 2023, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(bee88 @ Nov 27 2023, 04:48 PM)
Your bill is rm 80 or rm800? If rm80, . ur roi won’t be as good. Just u get to have a 0 bill.
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Okie thanks.


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post Dec 4 2023, 05:42 PM

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does it mean at night/no solar still need to draw from TNB line is it?

unless you have battery to store the generated electricity in the day?
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QUOTE(meors @ Dec 4 2023, 05:42 PM)
does it mean at night/no solar still need to draw from TNB line is it?

unless you have battery to store the generated electricity in the day?
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yes, and pathgreen mentioned the battery system could cost 35k , maybe not so feasible for now and for residential.


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post Mar 6 2024, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(anavrin @ Mar 6 2024, 03:35 PM)
yes, and pathgreen mentioned the battery system could cost 35k , maybe not so feasible for now and for residential.
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Yes. It’s not so important to have battery system yet. But the price is getting cheaper for battery solution.

35k is already like my system price already.

How about ur system? Installed?

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