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News Ukraine army launches large assault on SE Ukraine, Probable probing attack on Russian lines

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countingcrows
post Jun 16 2023, 01:39 AM

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QUOTE(bengm2019 @ Jun 16 2023, 01:18 AM)
If Ukraine has thousands of armored vehicles and a huge army, they wouldnt need to beg for more weapons and pull more men into army... They already recall people 5 times while Russia only did it once.....

Ukraine is basically has nothing much left and surviving on weapon "donations" from the west. Once the weapons delivery stop, Ukraine will collapse.
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UA is begging for F16s and air defense to bolster their counter offensive in future.
And yea, they're also begging for more Leopard 2s to replace those they already lost. I think they're getting 14 more.

They have obviously learnt that they need to counter Russian helos and drones targeting their armored vehicles and tanks.

Unfortunately, NATO is not done and will continue to arm UA. Russia is basically fighting the entire NATO alliance on its own.


18:40 15 June Kyiv, Ukraine

Denmark, the Netherlands, the United Kingdom and the United States have joined forces to provide Ukraine with a significant number of missile systems to strengthen its air defense capabilities.

This important information about the partnership was announced by the British Ministry of Defense on Thursday 15 June.

The initiative aims to supply hundreds of air defense missiles, including medium and short range systems, as well as related equipment needed to reliably protect Ukraine's critical national infrastructure.

This will allow the Ukrainian armed forces to successfully carry out counter-offensive operations in the coming months.

This announcement highlights that equipment deliveries have already begun and are expected to be completed in the next few weeks.


This post has been edited by countingcrows: Jun 16 2023, 01:54 AM
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post Jun 16 2023, 07:27 AM

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When Russia invaded Ukraine last February, Capt. Vladyslav Savieliev, a Ukrainian Air Force pilot with deep experience flying MiG-29 fighter jets against Russian forces, desperately wanted to fight for his country.

“For most foreign pilots, it’s a dream come true, U.S.-funded language training and flight school,” said retired Air Force Col. Jeffrey Fischer, a former senior defense attaché and military aviator who heard Savieliev’s story through his network of international pilot contacts. “For Vladyslav, it was frustrating. He’d rather have been in Ukraine, fighting for his nation.”

Savieliev, known by his call sign “Nomad,” finally returned to Ukraine after graduating in March from the U.S. military’s Aviation Leadership Program, an undergraduate pilot training course designed to boost military relationships with foreign nations.

He died weeks later on a combat mission June 2, the Ukrainian Air Force announced last week.

He died on one of the first combat missions he flew after returning from the United States, Fischer said.



Ukraine fighter pilot train for two years in US, comes back and then gets killed on first mission? wow


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post Jun 16 2023, 07:33 AM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jun 16 2023, 07:27 AM)

When Russia invaded Ukraine last February, Capt. Vladyslav Savieliev, a Ukrainian Air Force pilot with deep experience flying MiG-29 fighter jets against Russian forces, desperately wanted to fight for his country.

“For most foreign pilots, it’s a dream come true, U.S.-funded language training and flight school,” said retired Air Force Col. Jeffrey Fischer, a former senior defense attaché and military aviator who heard Savieliev’s story through his network of international pilot contacts. “For Vladyslav, it was frustrating. He’d rather have been in Ukraine, fighting for his nation.”

Savieliev, known by his call sign “Nomad,” finally returned to Ukraine after graduating in March from the U.S. military’s Aviation Leadership Program, an undergraduate pilot training course designed to boost military relationships with foreign nations.

He died weeks later on a combat mission June 2, the Ukrainian Air Force announced last week.

He died on one of the first combat missions he flew after returning from the United States, Fischer said.
Ukraine fighter pilot train for two years in US, comes back and then gets killed on first mission? wow
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He is the Ghost of Kyiv is it?
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post Jun 16 2023, 07:34 AM

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QUOTE(azbro @ Jun 16 2023, 07:33 AM)
He is the Ghost of Kyiv is it?
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Memang ghost la, dh mati jadi hantu.
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post Jun 16 2023, 07:58 AM

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QUOTE(countingcrows @ Jun 16 2023, 01:39 AM)
UA is begging for F16s and air defense to bolster their counter offensive in future.
And yea, they're also begging for more Leopard 2s to replace those they already lost. I think they're getting 14 more.

They have obviously learnt that they need to counter Russian helos and drones targeting their armored vehicles and tanks.

Unfortunately, NATO is not done and will continue to arm UA. Russia is basically fighting the entire NATO alliance on its own.
18:40 15 June Kyiv, Ukraine

Denmark, the Netherlands, the United Kingdom and the United States have joined forces to provide Ukraine with a significant number of missile systems to strengthen its air defense capabilities.

This important information about the partnership was announced by the British Ministry of Defense on Thursday 15 June.

The initiative aims to supply hundreds of air defense missiles, including medium and short range systems, as well as related equipment needed to reliably protect Ukraine's critical national infrastructure.

This will allow the Ukrainian armed forces to successfully carry out counter-offensive operations in the coming months.

This announcement highlights that equipment deliveries have already begun and are expected to be completed in the next few weeks.

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They can be used against Russia planes and choppers, but not against artillery and suicide drones. As we have already seen, this is becoming a artillery and drone war instead....
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post Jun 16 2023, 08:27 AM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jun 16 2023, 12:09 AM)
Russian soldiers chuckling away as the Ukrainian position opposite them is bombarded by artillery

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Haish, both Russians and Ukrainians are basically the same people - same ethnicity, same religion, similar language.. Yet they're killing each other and laughing about it. I am not saying it's ok to kill each other if there's so much difference between them of course.

The world was much more peaceful and united during covid lockdown
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"Wake up babe, new Ukraine wunderwaffe just dropped"


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QUOTE(imin @ Jun 16 2023, 08:27 AM)
Haish, both Russians and Ukrainians are basically the same people - same ethnicity, same religion, similar language.. Yet they're killing each other and laughing about it. I am not saying it's ok to kill each other if there's so much difference between them of course.

The world was much more peaceful and united during covid lockdown
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the conflict will not happen if NATO not die die wanna expand until Russia's doorstep
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post Jun 16 2023, 10:55 AM

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After months of preparation and bolstered by hundreds of Western-donated tanks, armored vehicles and howitzers, Kyiv has notched small successes in the first week and a half of a counteroffensive to drive Russian forces from southern Ukraine. In fierce fighting on the plains, the military said it had broken through a first line of Russian defenses and reclaimed seven villages.

Ukraine has yet to commit the bulk of its reserves, including troops trained in Europe over the winter and spring, and equipped with weaponry from NATO countries, meaning it can bring still more force to bear. But with each step forward, its soldiers become more vulnerable — removed from the safety of their own trenches, closer to Russian artillery, maneuvering through minefields and unprotected from airstrikes.

For Ukrainian soldiers with the 68th Scout Brigade who entered the villages, the sweetness of liberating land was tempered by the panorama of ruin that greeted them and what came next: a relentless bombardment from Russian forces.

“They are attacking with rockets, howitzers, mortars, helicopters and drones,” Sgt. Serhiy Gubanov said in an interview while taking cover in a basement as explosions boomed outside.

Russia’s main defensive line, about nine miles away from the village, is a dense belt of minefields, trenches, ditches to block armored vehicles and concrete barriers — known as dragons teeth — spread in lines over fields and intended to stop tanks.

After the first week and a half of fighting, Russia’s strategy, too, is coming into focus, Rob Lee, a senior fellow with the Foreign Policy Research Institute, said in a telephone interview.

The Russians are trying to inflict as many casualties and destroy as many vehicles as possible in a battle zone ahead of the main defensive line, depleting Ukrainian forces before they reach it. In effect, it turns the area in front of the main defense line into a kill zone.

The Russian strategy, Mr. Lee said, is “to inflict attrition on Ukrainian units and pull back without taking too many losses themselves.”

If the Russian strategy proves effective, Ukraine could lose too many of its newly trained troops — which number in the tens of thousands — and too many tanks and infantry fighting vehicles to breach the main line.


Even if they get that far, the forces might be too weakened to stream south and help accomplish a major objective: severing the so-called land bridge that connects Russia to the occupied Crimean Peninsula. This would be done by reaching the Sea of Azov, about 60 miles away.

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just an example of why range precision strikes and good intel works side by side.
HIMARS at the moment is just 80km range.





QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jun 15 2023, 11:33 PM)
I still don't understand why pipul put so much stock in small-scale destruction by HIMARS when Russian strategic and tactical air units are bombing Ukraine literally on a daily basis nowadays?

And pls don't tell me u believe in those 'Patriot shot down 99%' nonsense
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Did the President of the Czech Republic just advocated for concentration camps for Russians living in western countries on TV?

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Internment of Japanese-Americans during WW2


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post Jun 16 2023, 03:05 PM

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Another batch of Ukrainian POW marched to the rear by Russian guards. Some of them are carrying a heavily wounded comrade.


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post Jun 17 2023, 09:50 AM

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Screw your Toyota pickups, Soviet Lada is the superior tank-hunting platform


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post Jun 17 2023, 10:43 AM

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i give points for ingenuity.
similar to Ukraine AT buggies.

QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jun 17 2023, 09:50 AM)
Screw your Toyota pickups, Soviet Lada is the superior tank-hunting platform

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post Jun 17 2023, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(countingcrows @ Jun 16 2023, 01:39 AM)
UA is begging for F16s and air defense to bolster their counter offensive in future.
And yea, they're also begging for more Leopard 2s to replace those they already lost. I think they're getting 14 more.

They have obviously learnt that they need to counter Russian helos and drones targeting their armored vehicles and tanks.

Unfortunately, NATO is not done and will continue to arm UA. Russia is basically fighting the entire NATO alliance on its own.
18:40 15 June Kyiv, Ukraine

Denmark, the Netherlands, the United Kingdom and the United States have joined forces to provide Ukraine with a significant number of missile systems to strengthen its air defense capabilities.

This important information about the partnership was announced by the British Ministry of Defense on Thursday 15 June.

The initiative aims to supply hundreds of air defense missiles, including medium and short range systems, as well as related equipment needed to reliably protect Ukraine's critical national infrastructure.

This will allow the Ukrainian armed forces to successfully carry out counter-offensive operations in the coming months.

This announcement highlights that equipment deliveries have already begun and are expected to be completed in the next few weeks.

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Looking at current situation in Europe..... Not much left...

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post Jun 17 2023, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(bengm2019 @ Jun 17 2023, 10:45 AM)
Looking at current situation in Europe..... Not much left...
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Even now US have to ask from South Korea and Japan for more artillery shells
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Russian kamikaze drone destroys a Ukrainian mobile radar station on the Zhaporizhia front


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post Jun 17 2023, 04:09 PM

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Map from ISW claiming to show the situation of the Ukrainian offensive. Map also show how far the actual Russian defensive lines are located compared to where the combat is occuring right now.

Also, looks like Vuhledar is slowly starting to be in the process of encirclement.

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If Ukraine say now only they are only probing, looks like Russian screening forces are doing pretty decent job countering it.

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