News Ukraine army launches large assault on SE Ukraine, Probable probing attack on Russian lines
News Ukraine army launches large assault on SE Ukraine, Probable probing attack on Russian lines
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Jul 14 2023, 10:38 AM
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Jul 14 2023, 10:43 AM
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QUOTE(chaosneo @ Jul 14 2023, 10:30 AM) not sure, only russia knows. Supported by the change in narrative:i am just following pointers... 1. like two three months drop of usage of cruise missiles. 2. the news of India MIGHT sell Brahmos cruise missiles to russia. russia might be getting smarter and stockpile to launch an overwhelming strike in one night but... 1. We will bomb multiple ukrainian cities every day 2. We will bomb multiple ukrainian cities after every major attack 3. We will bomb kiev after every major attack 4. We will send a few bombs somewhere whenever we have some chaosneo and oe_kintaro liked this post
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Jul 14 2023, 11:20 AM
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Note: The individual Ready Reserve referred here means an individual who is a former active duty or reservist that have semi-retired. While they do not draw wages from the military or are required to attend annual training courses, they retain their military rank & status and are compelled to be ready to be called up for military duties until the age of 60. Basically they are calling up already retired soldiers into the reserve forces and sending them to Europe. This post has been edited by MilitaryMadness: Jul 14 2023, 12:26 PM |
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Jul 14 2023, 11:21 AM
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jul 14 2023, 10:31 AM) For weeks, Ukrainian officials pushed their counterparts in the United States and Europe to draft language that offered a timeline and clear path toward membership. The communiqué allies released Tuesday fell short of that, stating instead that “we will be in a position to extend an invitation to Ukraine when allies agree and conditions are met.” That line proved a deep disappointment for Kyiv, which raged behind the scenes as the U.S. and Germany resisted pressure to offer Ukraine concrete pledges. It was particularly upset at the vague reference to conditions, seeing it as a potential arbitrary roadblock to membership. Ukraine’s leadership reached out to Washington and Berlin to make its displeasure felt, ending in Zelenskyy firing off an irritated tweet on Tuesday referring to the confidential draft text as “unprecedented and absurd.” “It seems there is no readiness neither to invite Ukraine to NATO nor to make it a member of the Alliance,” the president fumed to his 7.3 million followers. Even some of Kyiv’s closest friends within NATO were taken aback, seeing the blunt social media criticism from Ukraine’s president as unhelpful and unwarranted during the sensitive diplomatic negotiations. “We take the tweet as an unfortunate expression of frustration,” said a senior diplomat from Northern Europe. He tells The Bottom Line host Steve Clemons that the West is happy to support a frozen conflict that weakens Russia, but not NATO membership for Ukraine and direct involvement in the war. Perhaps this John Mearsheimer is a hardcore Putins ass licker |
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Jul 14 2023, 12:46 PM
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it is already understandable that there is no way Ukraine can join NATO after 2014.
so the 2022 full invasion of Ukraine by russia, that point is not valid. QUOTE(WinkyJr @ Jul 14 2023, 11:21 AM) According to American political scientist John Mearsheimer, the Ukraine war could have been avoided if the West had abandoned the idea of Ukraine joining NATO from the start. He tells The Bottom Line host Steve Clemons that the West is happy to support a frozen conflict that weakens Russia, but not NATO membership for Ukraine and direct involvement in the war. Perhaps this John Mearsheimer is a hardcore Putins ass licker |
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Jul 14 2023, 02:13 PM
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QUOTE(oe_kintaro @ Jul 14 2023, 12:52 AM) I'm saying it's all shit until proven otherwise. If i can back up the facts i provide, it's not shit. debunk on the agreement they signed on mar 2022. dont waste time repeating the same thingSpeculation and opinion is all shit because anyone can say whatever they like including yourself. danabu liked this post
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Jul 14 2023, 02:54 PM
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Jul 14 2023, 05:46 PM
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Ukrainian press gangs escalating conscription procedures, now they freely fire warning shots from their weapons to intimidate the potential conscript. When the subject still refuses they simply throw him to the ground and started beating him up
I guess they gotta get those Leopard 2 drivers somehow ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
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Jul 14 2023, 06:14 PM
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Jul 14 2023, 07:32 PM
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Jul 14 2023, 07:40 PM
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Jul 14 2023, 07:45 PM
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Jul 14 2023, 07:50 PM
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Jul 14 2023, 08:31 PM
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i feel like the western armies and probably a large part of the world has something to learn from Ukrainian military adapting and changing to the needs of the battlefield.
very interesting read: 1/ This is an interesting thread from a Ukrainian soldiers going through Western military training in Germany. Key points that stand out: "They do not rely on electronic devices at all, and the fact that we go on missions with Chinese smartphones and tablets was wild for them." 2/ "But after "Kropyva", I don't want to go back to paper docs at all. The same for quadcopters - the concept of DJI Mavics and the use of civilian copters is simply not even in their plans. Of course, they study our war, but they are still surprised that we use it (quadcopters) like that." 3/ (For the record, "Kropyva" is a Ukrainian proprietary intelligence mapping software developed for planning, calculations, and orientation that is used by hundreds of units throughout Ukraine). 4/ More from the Ukrainian soldier: "For a week, we were taught to read maps, take the azimuth, transfer the azimuth from the compass to the map and vice versa. When we told them that we use electronic cards on tablets and phones, they did not take us seriously." what is this ELECTRONIC CARDS? 5/ "They have different drone types, but this is purely brigade level. This shows that in addition to the war with the aborigines in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, the Americans have not participated in a serious war for a long time. Their army does not have an analogue of the Chinese Mavic 3, it was a shock for us." 6/ The points about Western militaries not having the equivalents of cheap, commercial-type drones for tactical ISR is a major topic of deliberation in the US military today. |
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Jul 14 2023, 10:09 PM
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