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 Can Bermaz replicate Mazda's success with Kia and, Xpeng?

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post Mar 4 2024, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Mar 4 2024, 09:16 PM)
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Safet ....

Recently Peugeot have lemon car come out at malaysia?

I thought only perodua have
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That's because after Stellantis assembles, qaqc and test the vehicle, it goes to a separate building where it gets qaqc again by bermaz, bermaz will send it back to the assembly line if there's defects.

Now bermaz out of the picture, no more second more stringent qaqc check.

Also what if I told you crates of vehicle parts are left exposed to the weather... That just end up being assembled into the vehicle...

Best part there was a time that they were keeping ladder frames in a canopy. Sudah karat, paint on top saja and send to assembly line.

This post has been edited by ak101ss: Mar 4 2024, 09:22 PM
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post Mar 4 2024, 09:38 PM

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I think Stellantis brought in the wrong products.

I see a lot of people looking for small premium hatches, but they didn't bring in the e208 EV, instead they brought in the Landtrek, nobody wants a Chinese pickup when there is proper utility vehicles like Hilux, Navara, Triton, D-Max. Those who want a lifestyle pickup will opt for a Ford Ranger.

Also, not bringing in the 508 Peugeot Sport Engineered is also a missed opportunity, in limited numbers at least. There are no performance PHEVs in Malaysia, and some rich left fielders would buy it over the 330e, as this has better performance.
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post Mar 4 2024, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(Mr Mercedes @ Mar 4 2024, 09:38 PM)
I think Stellantis brought in the wrong products.

I see a lot of people looking for small premium hatches, but they didn't bring in the e208 EV, instead they brought in the Landtrek, nobody wants a Chinese pickup when there is proper utility vehicles like Hilux, Navara, Triton, D-Max. Those who want a lifestyle pickup will opt for a Ford Ranger.

Also, not bringing in the 508 Peugeot Sport Engineered is also a missed opportunity, in limited numbers at least. There are no performance PHEVs in Malaysia, and some rich left fielders would buy it over the 330e, as this has better performance.
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The landtrek is bermaz offering. The stellantis one will focus on ev's (see latest paul tan post they took my spyshot), and also brand new 408.

And btw the e208 is a really shit EV. Im in their UK owners group, so many electrical problems with the car and even the range cannot get 200km

This post has been edited by Boy96: Mar 4 2024, 09:59 PM
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post Mar 4 2024, 10:05 PM

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hamkaling bermaz
as much as I love mazda cars, they dont give the best spec
Cx5 till today no bose on highest spec, but export to Thailand bose and moon roof

CX8 Japan already wanna stop production using the latest facelift, here still use the older facelift and downgrade the ALH

CX60 even indonesia, phillipines already have! WTF man bermaz. People even got inline 6!
I am sure when reach Msian shores, its a single option 2.5 litre skyactiv G and selling at prices of GLC and BMW X3. its DOA. Harrier will be cheaper!!!

Really beh siu a bermaz, going to follow Tan Chong footsteps it seems.

Even if msian car tax high, when you price out your products, its hard to compete. BMW of Asia but wanna be BMW pricing and lvl, really ham ka ling soon
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post Mar 4 2024, 10:13 PM

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Eh.. I thought Thailand has their own Mazda assembly plant. They dont CKD cx5?
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post Mar 4 2024, 10:18 PM

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i hate Bermaz more than Mazda. They don't give us the best features on our market but for other countries, no prob to give more. Facelifted CX5 with more price increase, well getting the only minor job of the exterior, even the outdated (very old) HU is retained is amazed me how they choose for it.

inb4, hate limited mileage capped warranty of 100k km, no ATF change where many owners had issues once it passed 100k km, mandatory pay for junk accessories of Sky tint and junk carpet. Additionally, no any directive for way forward on 2.2D engine while the owner has blown head gasket, other region already stopped selling the diesel years ago, and we as usual under the smart Bermaz, keep selling this problematic Mazda Diesel engine.
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QUOTE(Jedi @ Mar 4 2024, 11:05 PM)
hamkaling bermaz
as much as I love mazda cars, they dont give the best spec
Cx5 till today no bose on highest spec, but export to Thailand bose and moon roof

CX8 Japan already wanna stop production using the latest facelift, here still use the older facelift and downgrade the ALH

CX60 even indonesia, phillipines already have! WTF man bermaz. People even got inline 6!
I am sure when reach Msian shores, its a single option 2.5 litre skyactiv G and selling at prices of GLC and BMW X3. its DOA. Harrier will be cheaper!!!

Really beh siu a bermaz, going to follow Tan Chong footsteps it seems.

Even if msian car tax high, when you price out your products, its hard to compete. BMW of Asia but wanna be BMW pricing and lvl, really ham ka ling soon
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Cos fanboi here very waterfish...
Cx5 been selling for 7 years...still wanna face lift ...
Kek....wanna beat wira record maybe..
Kekekkeek

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QUOTE(Brotherjoe @ Mar 4 2024, 10:13 PM)
Eh.. I thought Thailand has their own Mazda assembly plant. They dont CKD cx5?
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ckd kulim
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QUOTE(sunami @ Mar 4 2024, 10:18 PM)
Cos fanboi here very waterfish...
Cx5 been selling for 7 years...still wanna face life ...
Kek....wanna beat wira record maybe..
Kekekkeek
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Inb4 Asian BMW

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QUOTE(JeremyLord @ Mar 4 2024, 11:24 PM)
Inb4 Asian BMW

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Lol.....
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post Mar 4 2024, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(Jedi @ Mar 4 2024, 10:05 PM)
hamkaling bermaz
as much as I love mazda cars, they dont give the best spec
Cx5 till today no bose on highest spec, but export to Thailand bose and moon roof

CX8 Japan already wanna stop production using the latest facelift, here still use the older facelift and downgrade the ALH

CX60 even indonesia, phillipines already have! WTF man bermaz. People even got inline 6!
I am sure when reach Msian shores, its a single option 2.5 litre skyactiv G and selling at prices of GLC and BMW X3. its DOA. Harrier will be cheaper!!!

Really beh siu a bermaz, going to follow Tan Chong footsteps it seems.

Even if msian car tax high, when you price out your products, its hard to compete. BMW of Asia but wanna be BMW pricing and lvl, really ham ka ling soon
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the only Mazda worth buying now is CKD CX30 if based on spec

still dont have Bose but at least got full i Activesense + ALH + 360 cam + FCTA

still its also outdated now when other markets also updated spec with larger screen + wireless carplay

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post Mar 4 2024, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(ak101ss @ Mar 4 2024, 09:20 PM)
That's because after Stellantis assembles, qaqc and test the vehicle, it goes to a separate building where it gets qaqc again by bermaz, bermaz will send it back to the assembly line if there's defects.

Now bermaz out of the picture, no more second more stringent qaqc check.

Also what if I told you crates of vehicle parts are left exposed to the weather... That just end up being assembled into the vehicle...

Best part there was a time that they were keeping ladder frames in a canopy. Sudah karat, paint on top saja and send to assembly line.
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You enter production line of this factory before?

But mazda malaysia at kulim do not do this way right?
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post Mar 4 2024, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(JeremyLord @ Mar 4 2024, 10:24 PM)
Inb4 Asian BMW

owai
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Why said mazda CX-5 is asian BMW?
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post Mar 4 2024, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Mar 4 2024, 10:29 PM)
the only Mazda worth buying now is CKD CX30 if based on spec

still dont have Bose but at least got full i Activesense + ALH + 360 cam + FCTA

still its also outdated now when other markets also updated spec with larger screen + wireless carplay
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How about 2010 Mazda 3
1.6 L (A) ?

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post Mar 5 2024, 12:12 AM

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Mar 4 2024, 10:38 PM)
You enter production line of this factory before?

But mazda malaysia at kulim do not do this way right?
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Will neither confirm nor deny hehe.

Atos/inokom plant also got bermaz qaqc section.
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QUOTE(ak101ss @ Mar 5 2024, 12:12 AM)
Will neither confirm nor deny hehe.

Atos/inokom plant also got bermaz qaqc section.
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Bermaz seems have 4 plant now(either it is JV or owned)

One is owned by hicom right?
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post Oct 25 2024, 05:20 AM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ May 30 2023, 05:58 PM)
They are treating nasim peugeot owners like crap. Cannot get any service history and not willing to do warranty claims
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Cycle & Carriage Berhad is the new Peugeot Malaysia distributor from 1 August 2024.



Cycle & Carriage, a car dealership chain founded in 1899 and based in Singapore and Malaysia, is a company member of Jardine Matheson Holdings Limited.


Jardine Matheson, founded in 1832 by William Jardine and James Matheson near Canton, China, has a rich 192-year history and is listed in Singapore.


As a start in Malaysia, two existing Cycle & Carriage showrooms in ***** Cheras and Batu Caves****** will begin showcasing PEUGEOT by Q4 2024, with plans to expand into other Stellantis brands and regions by 2025.

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This collaboration builds on their existing partnerships in ******
Singapore and Vietnam. ********


This collaboration strengthens their partnership, which already exists in

****** Singapore and Vietnam. *********



https://www.peugeot.com.my/brand/news/stell...d-carriage.html


So strange.

Change again company after 3 years and 8 months.

But Citroen and DS malaysia still under Bermaz group???


Berjaya Auto Alliance Sdn Bhd (BAASB) was authorized to be the exclusive distributor of Peugeot, Citroen, and DS brands in Malaysia.


The announcement of BAASB as the exclusive distributor was made on December 1, 2020.

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post Oct 25 2024, 05:31 AM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Mar 4 2024, 10:18 PM)
i hate Bermaz more than Mazda. They don't give us the best features on our market but for other countries, no prob to give more. Facelifted CX5 with more price increase, well getting the only minor job of the exterior, even the outdated (very old) HU is retained is amazed me how they choose for it.

inb4, hate limited mileage capped warranty of 100k km, no ATF change where many owners had issues once it passed 100k km, mandatory pay for junk accessories of Sky tint and junk carpet. Additionally, no any directive for way forward on 2.2D engine while the owner has blown head gasket, other region already stopped selling the diesel years ago, and we as usual under the smart Bermaz, keep selling this problematic Mazda Diesel engine.
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Bermaz now like Tan Chong style?
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post Oct 25 2024, 05:38 AM

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QUOTE(acbc @ May 30 2023, 07:52 PM)
Kia maybe.
Peugeot very unlikely. The brand name already damaged beyond repair.
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Let us see how the 192 years company gonna change it.


Cycle & Carriage Berhad is the new Peugeot Malaysia distributor from 1 August 2024.



Cycle & Carriage, a car dealership chain founded in 1899 and based in Singapore and Malaysia, is a company member of Jardine Matheson Holdings Limited.


Jardine Matheson, founded in 1832 by William Jardine and James Matheson near Canton, China, has a rich 192-year history and is listed in Singapore.


As a start in Malaysia, two existing Cycle & Carriage showrooms in ***** Cheras and Batu Caves****** will begin showcasing PEUGEOT by Q4 2024, with plans to expand into other Stellantis brands and regions by 2025.

user posted image


This collaboration builds on their existing partnerships in ******
Singapore and Vietnam. ********


This collaboration strengthens their partnership, which already exists in

****** Singapore and Vietnam. *********



https://www.peugeot.com.my/brand/news/stell...d-carriage.html


So strange.

Change again company after 3 years and 8 months.

But Citroen and DS malaysia still under Bermaz group???


Berjaya Auto Alliance Sdn Bhd (BAASB) was authorized to be the exclusive distributor of Peugeot, Citroen, and DS brands in Malaysia.


The announcement of BAASB as the exclusive distributor was made on December 1, 2020.




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How about Xpeng?

Bermaz just got it from 1 March 2024

This post has been edited by plouffle0789: Oct 25 2024, 05:39 AM

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