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 [BMW bang die moto] driver acquitted & bebas now, ppl hentam BMW driver & his father

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post May 12 2023, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(mcchin @ May 12 2023, 09:37 PM)
They are traffic police
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They are idiots.
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QUOTE(iGamer @ May 12 2023, 09:33 PM)
Nobody even arguing driver not wrong, but having said that doesn’t mean the biker blameless. In the video, clearly the biker was exiting without a hint of surrounding, and there’s reason why exiting junction got rules to stop and observe oncoming traffic.

Everyday we encountered biker that simply exit junction, 99% of the time they manage to go home safely, 1% encountered another law breaking road users and end up in tragedy. By sympathising the dead and ignoring the fact doesn’t help in preventing future tragedy, becoz emo ppl think the reality will change to accommodate their emo…  doh.gif
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I thought I am the only one noticed this. The moto just pakai keluar only meanwhile the bmw probably already speeding from far or main phone or gf giving blowjob.
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post May 12 2023, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(mushigen @ May 12 2023, 09:29 PM)
I disagree. It can help exonerate the car driver, if he is indeed not guilty (to which I reserve my judgement because I can't see what is not shown by the video, although he did appear to me to be driving at high speed).
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U can't. Drive way above speed limit can be categorized as Reckless driving causing death. There is no way he can escape already. 1 point is enough to nail him down.
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ May 12 2023, 09:26 PM)
so, you tell me first, why BMW driver don't stop at white line?

simple question
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Simple answer, I already acknowledge the driver wrong from my very first comment.

So driver wrong, but biker also wrong but biker mistake cost her a life. Keep blaming driver while ignoring the part played by biker in the tragedy will help prevent future tragedy?
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post May 12 2023, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(mcchin @ May 12 2023, 01:11 PM)
if hit belakang BMW
moto wrong
cause that means BMW oredi enter the junction

if hit front fender means car wrong, cause the moto oredi enter junction
at least you have time to honk
this case maciam no contingency plan for the BMW jer
just power through
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its actually a double line to prevent overtaking the middle like
but dashed for each house so they can cross to enter the home from the opposite lane
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Google map to check also indicate a stop line on the road b4 the junction. During the interview he mentioned he didn't see the motor and only thought hitting something.

Aunty already fully out from junction. So said can't see her was so fully not make sense. Plus drove so fast for what?

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ts make 2 topic of the year in one week

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QUOTE(mcchin @ May 12 2023, 09:32 PM)
I can also say that the moto waited 5 sec at the line

And at that time the car is even further away

2.5 sec is 70m
5 sec is 140m

Added together would mean 210 m away

So a 3-5 sec to judge a car that 200m away whether is over speeding or not, can be hard

But for me to say that , means is not concrete cause there is no data

But the face is always there, there is line that bmw should stop, he didnt as there is no possible way to get to that speed from 0 with only 15m distance

So the car is entering the junction at high speed

If say to slow down, means it was even higher speed before that
But that is just conjecture at this time
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Again, nobody disputing driver speeding…
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QUOTE(SupermanLick @ May 12 2023, 09:05 PM)
Confirm brain damage. Gravity force 44G
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The rider died ..
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post May 12 2023, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(mcchin @ May 12 2023, 10:53 AM)
Red= BMW is suspected to be travelling from
Green= Motocycle come out of junction
Yellow= impact
junction on both have line
but the moto should have a Berhenti sign
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ur information is a bit wrong. the impact is right in front of the cctv house. 10-15m away from the junction (stop sign).

*There is another cctv near the junction but might be blocked by a tree.

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Still salahan BMW since he hit from behind and over speed. Different from SKT case. It's broad daylight with no hindsight
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QUOTE(kopiride @ May 12 2023, 09:21 PM)
So funny seeing arguments here. Fact is the car is speeding. That road is only with 30km/h.
Secondly, there is no blind spot there. Everything is clear. Even the place where moto turning also very clear.
There is quite a distance. Looking at the video, the woman is already out quite sometime at the middle of the semiD house.
The car obviously is not paying attention while speeding.
With the car dash cam that they hide, surely will have proof they saw the motor but bang head on
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QUOTE(nelson969 @ May 12 2023, 09:29 PM)
it is time ? should we have all cctv 24/7 like china or like australia / NZ where they set up police everywhere and catch offender speeding 24/7 ?
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QUOTE(kopiride @ May 12 2023, 09:39 PM)
U can't. Drive way above speed limit can be categorized as Reckless driving causing death. There is no way he can escape already. 1 point is enough to nail him down.
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this housing area speed limit is only 30kmh ma. if that bmw drive 30kmh, everyday can hit motobodo, and motobodo not even got injury.

u all got my points right..speeding is culprit number 1. but many here do not agree. In fact malaysian is too ego to admit, speed does bring fatality.

people can met accident everyday. but most important is aftermath. those machine such as car or bike. who cares, if the machine is damage. can throw claim total loss. but body dont have spare parts. once cacat, cannot repair.

thats why people need to reduce accident severity to the lowest that they can by driving slow. yeah. slow speed also can accident. but, u survive ma. and that what matter most right

But sometime, I really funny with our gomen. why not impose stricter speed limit implementation. it can save life ma. I bet, authority also love to drive fast. whoever new gomen form, they not even care about speeding implementation

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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ May 12 2023, 09:30 PM)
the fact the BMW driver should stop at white line

you miss it?
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and how this relate to aunty uncle riding bike expecting you to slow down?

QUOTE(mushigen @ May 12 2023, 09:32 PM)
Not referring to this case because can't see any video on this, but in general this is the Penang way of riding and it is a Satu Malaysia thing (you see all races, both men and women, both young and old doing this).
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But most of the time I see old people do it. They like want to die early.

QUOTE(iGamer @ May 12 2023, 09:33 PM)
Nobody even arguing driver not wrong, but having said that doesn’t mean the biker blameless. In the video, clearly the biker was exiting without a hint of surrounding, and there’s reason why exiting junction got rules to stop and observe oncoming traffic.

Everyday we encountered biker that simply exit junction, 99% of the time they manage to go home safely, 1% encountered another law breaking road users and end up in tragedy. By sympathising the dead and ignoring the fact doesn’t help in preventing future tragedy, becoz emo ppl think the reality will change to accommodate their emo…  doh.gif
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oh ya, I encounter a lot of time. just exit and expect you to slow down.

from the video I see same also.

exit, then riding slowly like father mother road.
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QUOTE(mcchin @ May 12 2023, 09:20 PM)
Don't lump everyone together

For me facts is fact

Some are unrefutable
Some maybe unknown

But you keep spewing shites is a fact
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Until there is evidence that counter what the existing video indicate, I see no reason to simply put “innocent” when existing video show otherwise.

Suddenly it’s Chinese and all of a sudden most who would normally comment padan muka Motobodo is suddenly white knight in shinning armour… whistling.gif
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QUOTE(vapanel @ May 12 2023, 09:52 PM)
and how this relate to aunty uncle riding bike expecting you to slow down?
But most of the time I see old people do it. They like want to die early.
oh ya, I encounter a lot of time. just exit and expect you to slow down.

from the video I see same also.

exit, then riding slowly like father mother road.
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because in this case BMW driver should by law make a full stop first
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QUOTE(kopiride @ May 12 2023, 09:39 PM)
U can't. Drive way above speed limit can be categorized as Reckless driving causing death. There is no way he can escape already. 1 point is enough to nail him down.
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I'm referring to the "anyway whatever motor rider did isn't matter anymore, since she is already death" comment. So if rider did something that contributed to the accident, she will bear some liability and the car driver's liability is reduced. So it matters what the rider did.
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QUOTE(DS51 @ May 12 2023, 09:50 PM)
this housing area speed limit is only 30kmh ma. if that bmw drive 30kmh, everyday can hit motobodo, and motobodo not even got injury.

u all got my points right..speeding is culprit number 1. but many here do not agree. In fact malaysian is too ego to admit, speed does bring fatality.

people can met accident everyday. but most important is aftermath. those machine such as car or bike. who cares, if the machine is damage. can throw claim total loss. but body dont have spare parts. once cacat, cannot repair.

thats why people need to reduce accident severity to the lowest that they can by driving slow. yeah. slow speed also can accident. but, u survive ma. and that what matter most right

But sometime, I really funny with our gomen. why not impose stricter speed limit implementation. it can save life ma. I bet, authority also love to drive fast. whoever new gomen form, they not even care about speeding implementation
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no la. 30km/h still die if hit and motobodo go into drain and hit the head

motobodo need to see no incoming car before exit

after exit must drive fast fast until the car cannot hit you

speed is important

ride slow kill

if the motobodo ride very fast, impossible bmw can hit

Let's all start to drive very fast so that we're all safer
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ May 12 2023, 09:53 PM)
because in this case BMW driver should by law make a full stop first
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if full stop, and when want to drive again, suddenly motobodo come out also will hit one.
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QUOTE(mushigen @ May 12 2023, 09:53 PM)
I'm referring to the "anyway whatever motor rider did isn't matter anymore, since she is already death" comment. So if rider did something that contributed to the accident, she will bear some liability and the car driver's liability is reduced. So it matters what the rider did.
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this proportional liability only apply in civil suit

for criminal charge such as this driver is facing, there is no such thing
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QUOTE(kanaloa @ May 12 2023, 09:48 PM)
ur information is a bit wrong. the impact is right in front of the cctv house. 10-15m away from the junction (stop sign).

*There is another cctv near the junction but might be blocked by a tree.

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Good angle. See the distance of the junction to the front of the house. Quite a distance.
In any angle, the BMW have nothing that blocks their view.

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