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 Blu-ray(tm) Disc (BD) Discussion Thread, Warner & New Line Cinema Do Blu!!

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post Jan 4 2008, 04:37 PM

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haha....ar188's elite 2.1 system....

you need a decent 5.1 system to feel the improvement.....last night I try Ratatouie and can feel that I'm in the middle of the action, my son jump up when Remy crash through the old lady's windows....like the rat is jump right to him..... thumbup.gif

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post Jan 4 2008, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Jan 4 2008, 04:10 PM)
kaniah ar188 biggrin.gif

u still using stereo for ur BD playign ar?
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mine is a boston acoustics+aego 2.1 hybrid system mah.. biggrin.gif very decent sound but no where near mpyw's full system la..
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Where can I get BD and HDDVD for rental around PJ area? Enlighten please
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post Jan 5 2008, 08:27 AM

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Warner to Back Blu-ray Exclusively

Warner has announced that they will be switching to support Blu-ray exclusively. Warner has been supporting both formats since they were launched, but recent talk from top executives suggested that Warner couldn't continue down that road much longer, and that the all important holiday sales would help them make a decision. With Blu-ray winning every week in high definition sales this year, Warner has decided that The Future is Blu.

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=803
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QUOTE(aiman04 @ Jan 5 2008, 08:27 AM)
Warner to Back Blu-ray Exclusively

Warner has announced that they will be switching to support Blu-ray exclusively. Warner has been supporting both formats since they were launched, but recent talk from top executives suggested that Warner couldn't continue down that road much longer, and that the all important holiday sales would help them make a decision. With Blu-ray winning every week in high definition sales this year, Warner has decided that The Future is Blu.

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=803
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I just about to post this news. Cepat sangatlah Aiman ni.

Anyway good news, hope this will end the format wars thumbup.gif
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post Jan 5 2008, 08:41 AM

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thanks warner, batman begins please rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

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bro aiman, wanna buy my BDs? more BDs is coming next week, so kena let go sikit la tongue.gif , price around RM70-80

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post Jan 5 2008, 09:18 AM

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bro PoP, PM me the BD u wanna let go...biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(aiman04 @ Jan 5 2008, 08:27 AM)
Warner to Back Blu-ray Exclusively

Warner has announced that they will be switching to support Blu-ray exclusively. Warner has been supporting both formats since they were launched, but recent talk from top executives suggested that Warner couldn't continue down that road much longer, and that the all important holiday sales would help them make a decision. With Blu-ray winning every week in high definition sales this year, Warner has decided that The Future is Blu.

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=803
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Now, please BDA.......sort out the players! Im at my wit's end here! Here's the lowdown:-

PS3
Pros: Future-proofed, BD-Live /Profile 2.0 ready which requires internet connection & 1GB persistent memory. The fastest loading BD player in the market. Zero problems loading BDs , even the new ones with Profile 1.1 like War & Resident Evil Extinction.
Cons: Cannot bitstream HBR audio formats (DTHD & DTSHDMA) via its HDMI port, hence why even DTHD is internally decoded. Some doubt that the PS3 can internally decode DTSHDMA as pass it out as LPCM.

vs

Other players such as Panny DMP-BD30K & Samsung BD-P1400
Pros: Can bitstream HBR audio hence uncompromised sound quality. Some argue that internally decoded DTHD==>LPCM like what PS3 degrades the audio quality, but yet to be proven.
Cons: TONS! Becomes obsolete once new profiles emerge, due to its inability to upgrade itself to the next profile (PS3 rules in this case) due to lack of hardware onboard. SLOW loading, in some cases , like loading those Java-laden Pirates movies, up to 3 minutes! Tons of glitches loading BDs that requires WAITING for new firmware updates. American versions of these BD players are attractively priced, at up to USD449.99, but comes overly priced when it arrives here. Eg. the Sammy player , priced at USD399.99, comes to RM3999.99 here. WTF!

My hope is the PS3, which is what im sticking with now, is able to internally decode DTSHDMA eventually, so that we can enjoy that elusive audio format. The good thing about internally decoding DTSHDMA is that you can pass the resulting decodes as lossless PCMs, and even those with older receivers can take these lossless PCMs and feed it to their receiver and enjoy DTSHDMA, albeit in PCM form. You dont need to upgrade to those newfangled receivers to enjoy lossless PCMs.

Come on Blu-ray, we're all on board here, just dont fcuk it up!




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post Jan 5 2008, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(lapaq @ Jan 5 2008, 09:21 AM)
Pop,

Pm me too pls...
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UGPM bro

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Ahahahaha, the AVSForum section just exploded with retorts and jibes about that Warner going Blu thingy. 53 pages already!

But i guess, it's fair. The BD folks wont get Transformers (or will have to wait till the 18 months Paramount "bribe" deal to expires tongue.gif), and the HD-DVD folks will not be getting The Dark Knight, once it's ready for home release.

But things look a little bit grimmer on the HD-DVD side, with Indy Trilogy rumored to be going where Spielberg wants it to go, and after Close Encounter of the Third Kind going BD, others suspect the rest of his catalog titles to follow suit.

2008 is going to be an interesting year. More megaton announcements to come as CES 2008 arrives in 2 days!
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QUOTE(PrinceOfPersia @ Jan 5 2008, 08:41 AM)

bro aiman, wanna buy my BDs? more BDs is coming next week, so kena let go sikit la  tongue.gif , price around RM70-80
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bro, UGPM

anyway, mind PM me the list too? smile.gif
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jan 5 2008, 09:35 AM)
Ahahahaha, the AVSForum section just exploded with retorts and jibes about that Warner going Blu thingy. 53 pages already!

But i guess, it's fair. The BD folks wont get Transformers (or will have to wait till the 18 months Paramount "bribe" deal to expires tongue.gif), and the HD-DVD folks will not be getting The Dark Knight, once it's ready for home release.

But things look a little bit grimmer on the HD-DVD side, with Indy Trilogy rumored to be going where Spielberg wants it to go, and after Close Encounter of the Third Kind going BD, others suspect the rest of his catalog titles to follow suit.

2008 is going to be an interesting year. More megaton announcements to come as CES 2008 arrives in 2 days!
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Getting OT, regarding the CES 2008 it was rumored that Bill Gates will unleashed a surprise announcement. But donno about Xbox or HDDVD.
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guys,cepat cepat, corez already borong my BDs tongue.gif
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QUOTE(corez @ Jan 5 2008, 09:47 AM)
Getting OT, regarding the CES 2008 it was rumored that Bill Gates will unleashed a surprise announcement. But donno about Xbox or HDDVD.
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Two words: Direct download. MS have been secretly waiting in the corner to get the HD-DVD and Blu-ray folks to lock horns and kill each other, so that their own option of HD viewing can live and thrive as the loser between HD-DVD vs Blu-ray dies.

The HD-DVD folks is planned to speak for 2 hours at the CES conference, while the BD guys only have 1 hour time slot. I imagine it is going to be very awkward for Warner, especially those "if looks can kill" stares from the HD-DVD conglomerates. laugh.gif

What a way to start the new year! Now bring on the Profile 2.0 players already, Sony/Samsung/Panasonic/Sharp! Those 2.0 standalone players already announced are from crappy companies like Daewoo (WTF is a car company making a BD player!) and LG (that second generation hybrid player, yuck!).

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eh? i tot daewoo flopped as a car maker, no?

mpyw, really tat good ar? is a 7.1 necessary? or 5.1 will be sufficient?
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Just arrived office and check out the forum, thanks guy for the great news to Blu-ray from Warner. thumbup.gif

I couldn't believe it and start surfing around the net and indeed is true. But the exclusive start on May 2008. rclxms.gif

Well is not an immediate effect like Paramount, which take away Transformers and Shrek 3 sad.gif

Need to get more Warner's movie on Blu-ray in order to strongly support them for having exclusively on Blu-ray brows.gif

Ok, most wanted list, Batman Begins, V for Vendetta, Matirx Trilogy, Constantine, etc brows.gif

Warner, please? notworthy.gif

What should I do with my 30+ HD-DVD? brows.gif
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Jan 5 2008, 10:16 AM)
eh? i tot daewoo flopped as a car maker, no?

mpyw, really tat good ar? is a 7.1 necessary? or 5.1 will be sufficient?
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Okay then, washing machine company. laugh.gif

QUOTE(pAnGuInDa @ Jan 5 2008, 10:17 AM)
Just arrived office and check out the forum, thanks guy for the great news to Blu-ray from Warner. thumbup.gif

I couldn't believe it and start surfing around the net and indeed is true. But the exclusive start on May 2008. rclxms.gif

Well is not an immediate effect like Paramount, which take away Transformers and Shrek 3 sad.gif

Need to get more Warner's movie  on Blu-ray in order to strongly support them for having exclusively on Blu-ray brows.gif

Ok, most wanted list, Batman Begins, V for Vendetta, Matirx Trilogy, Constantine, etc brows.gif

Warner, please? notworthy.gif

What should I do with my 30+ HD-DVD? brows.gif
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Keep those HD-DVDs, it will still play on your player. Once dual format player prices come down, get one as backup should your primary player dies, or get standalone HD-DVD players on the cheap when the format dies away.

The good news about all this is concerning Warner. They had been limiting their encoding bitrates to HD-DVD specs (a.k.a less storage space, lower encoding rates), and pass the same encoding rates to their BD titles. Now with them going BD, i hope they take advantage of the BD space and do higher encodes. The result can already be seen from new titles like Shoot 'Em Up from New Line, where bitrates recorded reaches 40-50Mbps, and the PQ looked phenomenal.
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frankly, i really dun really like warner... cheap skate box, single disc inside box, no nothing else, exact encoding with hd dvd, sucks
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jan 5 2008, 10:25 AM)
Okay then, washing machine company. laugh.gif
Keep those HD-DVDs, it will still play on your player. Once dual format player prices come down, get one as backup should your primary player dies, or get standalone HD-DVD players on the cheap when the format dies away.

The good news about all this is concerning Warner. They had been limiting their encoding bitrates to HD-DVD specs (a.k.a less storage space, lower encoding rates), and pass the same encoding rates to their BD titles. Now with them going BD, i hope they take advantage of the BD space and do higher encodes. The result can already be seen from new titles like Shoot 'Em Up from New Line, where bitrates recorded reaches 40-50Mbps, and the PQ looked phenomenal.
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Agree bro Stringfellow. I love Blu-ray, but I never doubt HD DVD, trust me, I got the Ultimate Matrix Trilogy, Batman Begins and V for Vendetta, and I can assure you is the best HD DVD out there which is a must for collectors. So I decide to keep it. And hopefully dual format player do get to a point which is cheap and reliable.

I do read about lower bit rate on HD DVD. Well, it won;t effect the image as long as your display is below 50 inches. How many people can possibly can get more than 50 inches TV sweat.gif

But like you said, I also hope that with better space and spec, Warner deliver much better bit rate for the "coming soon" movie, like Dark Knight brows.gif

Oh yes, I'm looking forward for Shoot 'Em Up, my shipment is still in HK right now.... sad.gif pray pray for it

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