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touristking
post Dec 30 2024, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(Sycamore @ Dec 30 2024, 11:14 AM)
Yes you are right the language is not exactly perfect.
If you prefer, 'nothing in human life is permanent'.

The ultimate of Buddhism is Nirvana, similar but not precisely equivalent with Abrahamic's 'heaven' or 'one with god'.
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NOTHING is permanent. Says nothing about only limited to human.
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post Dec 30 2024, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(touristking @ Dec 30 2024, 06:19 PM)
NOTHING is permanent. Says nothing about only limited to human.
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This is just semantics game.
If 'NOTHING' is the ultimate, then human life as a derivation of 'NOTHING', might as well be called as 'NOTHING-human life'.

For Abrahamic, they call the 'NOTHING' as 'God'.
'NOTHING' in fact is not nothing as human think.
Anything human can think is not nothing.
There is nothing called 'nothing'.

Hence 'NOTHING' is badly named, counterintuitive to human language and modern thinking.
You might want to rethink it.

This post has been edited by Sycamore: Dec 30 2024, 06:47 PM
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post Dec 30 2024, 07:02 PM

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QUOTE(whphon @ Dec 30 2024, 09:37 AM)
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post Dec 30 2024, 07:11 PM

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the purpose of life is to achieve nirvana, a state of freedom from suffering and rebirth.


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post Dec 30 2024, 07:17 PM

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Life is actually nothing. Before you born, do you feel anything before that? Are you really reborn? Who is your previous life?
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post Dec 30 2024, 07:30 PM

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QUOTE(danielmckey @ Dec 30 2024, 07:17 PM)
Life is actually nothing. Before you born, do you feel anything before that? Are you really reborn? Who is your previous life?
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Your memory has been erased.

Reborn means to restart life.
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post Dec 30 2024, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Dec 30 2024, 07:30 PM)
Your memory has been erased.

Reborn means to restart life.
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Dec 30 2024, 07:30 PM)
Your memory has been erased.

Reborn means to restart life.
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QUOTE(danielmckey @ Dec 30 2024, 07:17 PM)
Life is actually nothing. Before you born, do you feel anything before that? Are you really reborn? Who is your previous life?
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This is a debate about consciousness or human consciousness.

Human consciousness 'seems to start' (let's not get into debate on this) with human life.
Human cannot truly understand anything outside human consciousness.

But we know for a fact animal seems to have 'some sort of consciousness'.
But we are unable to truly understand 'animal consciousness'.

Then the ultimate question comes: does universe have 'consciousness'? does atom have 'consciousness'?
What if the air have 'some sort of consciousness' but it is different from 'human consciousness' and human cannot understand?

The Chinese thought of this very long ago, though it is in a different language.
万物皆有

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post Dec 30 2024, 07:54 PM

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QUOTE(Sycamore @ Dec 30 2024, 07:50 PM)
This is a debate about consciousness or human consciousness.

Human consciousness 'seems to start' (let's not get into debate on this) with human life.
Human cannot truly understand anything outside human consciousness.

But we know for a fact animal seems to have 'some sort of consciousness'.
But we are unable to truly understand 'animal consciousness'.

Then the ultimate question comes: does universe have 'consciousness'? does atom have 'consciousness'?
What if the air have 'some sort of consciousness' but it is different from 'human consciousness' and human cannot understand?

The Chinese thought of this very long ago, though it is in a different language.
万物皆有情
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post Dec 31 2024, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(piscesguy @ Dec 30 2024, 07:11 PM)
the purpose of life is to achieve nirvana, a state of freedom from suffering and rebirth.
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That is not “purpose” of life. It’s more like the goal of life.
The purpose of life is “why do we exist”?
If we don’t exist then we don’t have to achieve nirvana.

This post has been edited by abm: Dec 31 2024, 11:22 AM
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post Dec 31 2024, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(touristking @ Dec 30 2024, 09:35 AM)
If you think memories can be recycled, then it points to reincarnation.
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I feel it is more like a memory can be copied/adapted. Maybe can be said as recycled or it can be copied, which resulted the living individual to have the past generation memories.

Recycled, the memories stay with the individual even after reborn (it didn't happen most of the time). The copied/adapted memories, the different individual at different era gained access to other individual's past memories and resonates well with it.

The recycled memories, the existing individual do not need to leave behind any of their works in form of writings, arts, composed songs, findings, etc.

The copied/adapted memories, the existing individual left behind theirs works in form of writings, arts, composed songs, findings, etc, in order for the future generation to pick up what left by them, to be studied, utilized & further improvised.

At my younger age, I have no tolerance toward certain subjects. Now at present time, I can have such high tolerance and acceptance toward certain subjects, which make it feel so strange.

Personally, I don't like the incarnation concept. It leaves the option for living being to screw up or give up their current life in the hope that they can restart by reincarnation. Ppl will not put 100% effort in their "this" life. I prefer the concept that we only have current the life, so live our life to the fullest & leave behind our life findings for the next generation to pick up. The coming generations do not need to start from the scratch what the past generations have discovered, suffer what have been suffered, continue to enjoy what is made known can be exploited / further enhance it.


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post Dec 31 2024, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Apr 7 2023, 10:54 PM)
BORN -> STUDY -> WORK -> MARRY -> PROCREATE/Have CHILDREN -> RETIRE -> DIE

If only the rich who has so much excess and living comfortably share their wealth to the unfortunate.

Say you own 1000 homes, have a set of 50 luxury cars, 10 wives, 20 children Eat Michelin Restaurants >4Meals a day, go holiday overseas several times a year.

When you die you cannot take them along with you. Instead with the excess you have, why not donate to the needy and the unfortunate. Let everyone remember you when you die and tell the story of you as a saint when you were still alive?

The rest as King Solomon says are MEANINGLESS in the Ecclesiastes book he authored.
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When you die you die you will cease to exist and wont remember a thing of your past life

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Legacy is just ego - Mike Tyson



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post Dec 31 2024, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(Sycamore @ Dec 30 2024, 07:50 PM)
This is a debate about consciousness or human consciousness.

Human consciousness 'seems to start' (let's not get into debate on this) with human life.
Human cannot truly understand anything outside human consciousness.

But we know for a fact animal seems to have 'some sort of consciousness'.
But we are unable to truly understand 'animal consciousness'.

Then the ultimate question comes: does universe have 'consciousness'? does atom have 'consciousness'?
What if the air have 'some sort of consciousness' but it is different from 'human consciousness' and human cannot understand?

The Chinese thought of this very long ago, though it is in a different language.
万物皆有
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post Jan 2 2025, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(danielmckey @ Dec 30 2024, 07:17 PM)
Life is actually nothing. Before you born, do you feel anything before that? Are you really reborn? Who is your previous life?
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more than that actually.

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post Jan 2 2025, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(abm @ Dec 31 2024, 11:20 AM)
That is not “purpose” of life. It’s more like the goal of life.
The purpose of life is “why do we exist”?
If we don’t exist then we don’t have to achieve nirvana.
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purpose of life is to experience to maximum
no matter whether you're born poor or rich ugly or good looking
everybody "image" will decay
thats why buddhism and Taoism focuses on the soul and letting go
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post Jan 2 2025, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(-mystery- @ Jan 2 2025, 11:51 AM)
purpose of life is to experience to maximum
no matter whether you're born poor or rich  ugly or good looking
everybody "image" will decay
thats why buddhism and Taoism focuses on the soul and letting go
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but going to heaven and reside there for quite a long time isn't that bad, if you compare human existence, just saying if you have a choice.

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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ Jan 2 2025, 03:48 PM)
but going to heaven and reside there for quite a long time isn't that bad, if you compare human existence, just saying if you have a choice.
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almost every human being have to reincarnate because they havent settled their debts completely. The idea of "empty self" is a difficult thing to achieve for most people
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QUOTE(-mystery- @ Jan 2 2025, 08:46 PM)
almost every human being have to reincarnate because they havent settled their debts completely. The idea of "empty self" is a difficult thing to achieve for most people
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Provided you can settle and “stop” producing new karma.
But even as we speak now , there is new karma created by the mind - the outflow does not cease.


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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ Jan 2 2025, 08:50 PM)
Provided you can settle and “stop” producing new karma.
But even as we speak now , there is new karma created by the mind - the outflow does not cease.
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most people are not controlling the thoughts, its the emotions that gear them towards stupid decisions. I know myself like to fuck girls but i try not to get carried away too much by it

Its called the third party observer effect
the Buddha teaches us to leave our physical body by observing more
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The meaning or purpose of life is to worship Allah and believe in Prophet Muhammad is the last messenger.

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