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National Team England National Talk, Terry dropped as captain

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post Oct 14 2007, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(Zephyr_Mage @ Oct 14 2007, 12:03 AM)
Disappointing.
3-0 against Estonia? And 3 lucky goals at that.
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I could understand not wanting to PUSH harder and risk anything (especially to the yellow cards and Owen) but the changes made were pathetic. Why the f*** not someone who hasn't played internationally? What would Lampard do? Gain a cap and that's it? Give it to someone who has something to prove. mad.gif
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Starting to like Wright Philips... nod.gif

I think he is the fastest player in tonight's match.
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Striker Fernando Torres will miss Spain's Euro 2008 qualifiers after suffering a small muscle tear in his right leg in training. And he is now a major doubt for next Saturday's Merseyside derby.

Hope he doesn't play, for his health sake whistling.gif
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QUOTE(kobe8byrant @ Oct 14 2007, 01:04 AM)
I could understand not wanting to PUSH harder and risk anything (especially to the yellow cards and Owen) but the changes made were pathetic. Why the f*** not someone who hasn't played internationally? What would Lampard do? Gain a cap and that's it? Give it to someone who has something to prove. mad.gif
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well, guess after all macca does not have the balls to let the star sit on the bench for the entire game....

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QUOTE(DaBestOne @ Oct 14 2007, 12:08 AM)
well, guess after all macca does not have the balls to let the star sit on the bench for the entire game....
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Knew that long ago.
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QUOTE(Zephyr_Mage @ Oct 14 2007, 12:03 AM)
Disappointing.
3-0 against Estonia? And 3 lucky goals at that.

Real test is on Wednesday. But then again, the England side should always be able to beat Russia. McClaren better not screw this up.
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Will need to see how they perform on the artificial turf though hmm.gif

QUOTE(kobe8byrant @ Oct 14 2007, 12:04 AM)
I could understand not wanting to PUSH harder and risk anything (especially to the yellow cards and Owen) but the changes made were pathetic. Why the f*** not someone who hasn't played internationally? What would Lampard do? Gain a cap and that's it? Give it to someone who has something to prove.  mad.gif
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Perhaps Steve is thinking of going a 4-5-1 safety first @ Russia and bring in Lampard as 5th midfield? hmm.gif

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(L)RUSSIA V ENGLAND

Channel: Astro SuperSport (811)
Date: Wednesday, October 17, 2007
Time: 10:55:00 PM

Synopsis:
LIVE: EURO 2008 Qualifier: Russia vs England, from Luzhniki Stadium, Moscow.


http://www.astro.com.my/programming/channe...prog_id=4640011

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YOU actually think that Macca has the balls to drop a star player in Rooney?
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QUOTE(kobe8byrant @ Oct 14 2007, 12:44 AM)
YOU actually think that Macca has the balls to drop a star player in Rooney?
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http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11967_2794561,00.html

An article where Paul Merson think Lampard will play against Russia in a 4-5-1 with Owen making way [2 games in 5 days after surgery?]

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First of all, I still think we can play 4-4-2 against Russia. We blitz them in Wembley and we have enough quality to do it again in their home artificial turf. Secondly, I doubt Macca can play any other way apart from a boring conventional 4-4-2. Thirdly, we can go on and on on how well Lamps has done for Chelsea but fact is Barry has came in and since he and Gerrard has teamed up, we have scored 10 goals in three matches with three clean sheets? Fourthly, I'd go to say that Lampard isn't good enough to play on his own. His career only got going when he had Makalele and Essien to start cleaning his shit so he could bomb forward and Gerrard ain't going to do that.

For me, 4-4-2 with Lampard on the bench. No other way and I think Owen was placed in cotton to protect him from injuries and to protect himself from Sam
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Cole concern for England
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Steve McClaren has confirmed Ashley Cole is a doubt to face Russia on Wednesday after injuring his ankle against Estonia.

The England left-back landed awkwardly when tracking back inside his own box and was clearly in discomfort while receiving treatment.

Cole had to be carried off on a stretcher having been unable to walk under his own power.

There was obvious concern on the England bench and McClaren admits it will be an anxious next 24 hours waiting to discover the full extent of the injury.

"Ashley Cole is obviously a doubt," McClaren told Sky Sports. "He rocked his ankle.

"That will be assessed over the next 24 hours which will be a critical period.

"It was a bit unfortunate because we were only going to give him another 10 or 15 minutes to make sure we started the second-half well."

Terry getting better

England could welcome back John Terry in Russia after McClaren gave a positive update on the England captain's knee injury.

He said: "John Terry looked better again this morning and we'll assess it tomorrow.

"If he gets better and better who knows, Monday he might train or travel with us and train on Tuesday.

"But he's still a doubt."

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12010_2799486,00.html
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What are the chances of Leighton Baines making it in place of A.Cole I wonder...?
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post Oct 15 2007, 01:19 PM

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I have a strong feeling and won't be surprised if Barry was pushed to LB and Lampard start.


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Oh cmon...i feel Steve o Mac finally had da ballz to drop Lampard and move on with the current formation. To be precise, the first half starting IX did it better and i believe will set the foundation for more games to come.

No offence to Lamps, but when your coaching position is at stake with another 2 more games and Gareth Barry playing immensively well in DM, why in da blue world you'd wanna revert him to LB and bring on Lamps in da middle.

Here, let me give u a scenario..of what's gonna happen. STevie G gets the ball, passes to SWP crosses to Rooney who'll slips past a few defenders (possibly), sets the ball to Owen but was deflected by a defender who puts the ball into Lamps feet. Lamps sees Owen firmly in an open area..frantically waving his hand and doing da hula hula dance "Pass da freakin ball to me".

My guess is as good as da whole load of English fans...Lamps going for glory takes another stinging shot which lands firmly on da keeper hands.

p.s. After 5 attempts of similar field rage, he hits da post to say da least and has Stevie G commenting to da press "It's hard done by to have Barry dropped to the subs or reverted to LB"

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post Oct 15 2007, 02:22 PM

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McCLAREN WANTS ROONEY CONSISTENCY
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Hopefully this wednesday match able to see Lampard play.
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QUOTE(zeist @ Oct 15 2007, 03:59 PM)
Hopefully this wednesday match able to see Lampard play.
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shouldn't left SWP as usual he would be the defence breaker and J Cole to assist any player for goals and more goals
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QUOTE(zeist @ Oct 14 2007, 12:05 AM)
Starting to like Wright Philips...  nod.gif

I think he is the fastest player in tonight's match.
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hahahahahah chelsea LW ftw...he'so fcukin fast sweat.gif

QUOTE(zeist @ Oct 15 2007, 02:59 PM)
Hopefully this wednesday match able to see Lampard play.
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yeah...hopefully
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Latest news says that

Robinson
LB - Shorey or Neville
CB - Ferdinand - Terry (or Richards if Terry's unfit)
RB - Young (if Richards' CB)

Midfield 3 - Gerrard-Barry-Lampard
Front 3-Cole-Owen-Rooney

I think the defence's bollocks. I'd go with

Shorey-Ferdinand-Campbell-Richards (if Terry isn't fit)
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QUOTE(wayne_chen @ Oct 15 2007, 03:22 PM)
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rooney is definitely one of the best stikers in the world with clinical finishing... well, in international level he might lack that bit of consitency... but in club level he is quite consistent imo.... except when he just recovered from injuries.. thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(DaBestOne @ Oct 15 2007, 03:19 PM)
rooney is definitely one of the best stikers in the world with clinical finishing... well, in international level he might lack that bit of consitency... but in club level he is quite consistent imo.... except when he just recovered from injuries.. thumbup.gif
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thats normal to professiional club player....international wise...he had to get used....he used to train with his colleague in MAN U rather than England laugh.gif

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