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TSaneppp
post Jan 27 2023, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(iamloco @ Jan 27 2023, 06:53 AM)
3 years working only? Easily Saga bro..
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QUOTE(CyrusWong @ Jan 27 2023, 07:49 AM)
go for new car. 2nd hand car very risky. in ur case 2nd hand city vs new saga, i would suggest go for saga.

u can take myvi into consideration as well, my friend give very good review for this car. resell value very high as well.
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QUOTE(babisotong @ Jan 27 2023, 10:15 AM)
to those who feel saga is underpowered, not really.

it can drive decently on highway speed or city drive.

if you are not speed demon, it will do just fine especially manual variant.

You don't need to worry much about driving in jem with manual as manual this day, the clutch is really easy to use.

FC for campro vvt now is quite good, tuning got better and improved over the last few years.

u can easily compare 2 iriz manual or auto  ( latest vs 2 or 3 years ago) and feel the difference in term of driving and fuel consumption.

i will clearly say, go for new saga. full stop.
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QUOTE(ibnwara @ Jan 27 2023, 11:30 AM)
My first car is a 2017 Proton Saga CVT.

bought it during my first year of employment.
Saga is good to drive and to own for the first owner.

same as you. the car only serves for weekend drives and outstation. cuz most of the week I rempitz to office.

but by the time you own a car. Sometimes you will definitely use the car for work.

I previously also don't mind Saga Fuel Consumption (FC). but the more I use that car. the more I felt this car really guzzling fuel.
My saga the CVT one only serves me below 400km of a full tank (Mix driving but mostly highways) and yes. I'm kinda the guy that will fuel up the full tank and record the mileage.
The full tank of this saga is around 40l, and you will be refilling it around 33l from E. so, calculate the cost with your desired petrol price.

I cannot give a comment for the new saga as I have been informed that, that car has better FC after they change the Gearbox (GB).
speaking of Gearbox, Saga with CVT is not good. avoid at any cost any proton model with CVT. The GB is only good during test drives and 1st year of usage.
Now after settling up the loan, I gave that car to my sister.

As for your second choice which is City, what model year are you aiming for?
Since I gave Saga to my sister, I have been using Honda Jazz 2013 (TFO/GE) model. Compares to Saga,
that old Jazz has better FC and power, plus also a wide-open boot to put large items. For service, yes older cars need to spend more money to
fix and restore old wear and tear parts. But for normal fluid service. I don't see any cost difference between the two. some parts proton cheaper, some parts honda cheaper.
If buy used, you don`t need to stick to SC price as can survey another outside shop. As for long drives, 1.5l is better than a 1.3l engine. cruising
110kml on the highway gives you optimum power. Also, 1 has just been married for about 1 year. For me, Jazz boots are already enough for small families of
3 or 4. Jazz boot is not so small compares to other hatchbacks but Honda's rear seat flexibility is really good and can carry more goods than Saga.

Honda models before 2014 still use Conventional auto GB. I suggest you go for that model.
you may search for TFO/GE Jazz, TMO/GM5 City, or FB Civic. Conventional GB is more reliable than CVT.

But my main recommendation to you is, to find a car that you can afford to loan for 5 years and below.
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QUOTE(soulz69 @ Jan 27 2023, 12:37 PM)
saga je bang. nak jimat minyak, buy bezza or new axia lagi jimat minyak. myvi also better choice.
later after married, got child, ada rezeki lebih, beli mpv besar sikit.
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thanks guys. i will stick to saga and already contact SA and need to wait 3 month haha. no issue since im not in rush to use a car

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post Jan 27 2023, 12:50 PM

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Go for new car bro. If i were u will try to avoid any proton car. Better go for perodua like axia or bezza.
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post Jan 27 2023, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(FrogBlob @ Jan 27 2023, 10:24 AM)
good deal. was this long time ago?
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Ngam ngam 5 years ago.
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post Jan 27 2023, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(Nirnama @ Jan 27 2023, 12:50 PM)
Go for new car bro. If i were u will try to avoid any proton car. Better go for perodua like axia or bezza.
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Proton haters? latest Saga is using 4at, Campro VVT not much issue other than use a bit more fuel than Bezza and etc.
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post Jan 27 2023, 03:25 PM

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If you just want a car to go from point A - B
The peredua's will do the trick

If you wanted to experience fine handling
Proton saga is the way the way to go

If you want something to make yourself look good in the eye of others
Used city but advisable if you do some advance research on the model you want to buy so that you know what going on and not kena chop by mechanic.

If you want super bajet
Used myvi would be a good idea since it is common and parts are available, the again just do some research on the model before purchase.

Whatever you choose just make sure you can afford the repayment, no point driving something you like but worry about paying off your bill at the end of the day.

This post has been edited by minizian: Jan 27 2023, 03:26 PM
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post Jan 27 2023, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(babisotong @ Jan 27 2023, 02:22 PM)
Proton haters? latest Saga is using 4at, Campro VVT not much issue other than use a bit more fuel than Bezza and etc.
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This group has a lot of Proton haters. They give advice solely because they don't like the brand and not that the car is bad. So, TS do take these comments with a pinch of salt. Only take the points from those that give you solid facts. Those can be deemed credible advice. Otherwise, can assume they just don't like the brand
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post Jan 27 2023, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(lowpro @ Jan 27 2023, 05:20 PM)
This group has a lot of Proton haters. They give advice solely because they don't like the brand and not that the car is bad. So, TS do take these comments with a pinch of salt. Only take the points from those that give you solid facts. Those can be deemed credible advice. Otherwise, can assume they just don't like the brand
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I drove a civic CVT for 12 years no issue at all. Recently buy a used 2017 saga , the guy apparently cheated on me and the gearbox was faulty. Imagine a 5 years plus car gear box already got problem and when I went to proton service centre three guys saying their X70 got gear box problem. You tell me how to trust a national China car. Apparently Japanese are much more superior in making things.
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post Jan 27 2023, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(cy97 @ Jan 27 2023, 11:15 PM)
I drove a civic CVT for 12 years no issue at all. Recently buy a used 2017 saga , the guy apparently cheated on me and the gearbox was faulty. Imagine a 5 years plus car gear box already got problem and when I went to proton service centre three guys saying their X70 got gear box problem. You tell me how to trust a national China car. Apparently Japanese are much more superior in making things.
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Nobody said proton cvt is good. Almost everybody in online want to literally "punch" proton cvt.

Your fault for not doing research
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post Jan 27 2023, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(e-lite @ Jan 27 2023, 11:18 PM)
Nobody said proton cvt is good. Almost everybody in online want to literally "punch" proton cvt.

Your fault for not doing research
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If proton is that good it should recall all the CVT gearbox. Full stop.
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post Jan 27 2023, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(cy97 @ Jan 27 2023, 11:32 PM)
If proton is that good it should recall all the CVT gearbox. Full stop.
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Ok, please also get Ford to recall all their DCTs and VWs all their dry clutch DSG. I will seriously support your cause
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post Jan 28 2023, 01:12 AM

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QUOTE(babisotong @ Jan 27 2023, 02:22 PM)
Proton haters? latest Saga is using 4at, Campro VVT not much issue other than use a bit more fuel than Bezza and etc.
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Nope. Its just my honest opinion as proton user before. Never again.

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post Jan 28 2023, 08:07 PM

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Bezza, Myvi or Used Vios
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post Jan 30 2023, 07:40 AM

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QUOTE(cy97 @ Jan 27 2023, 11:15 PM)
I drove a civic CVT for 12 years no issue at all. Recently buy a used 2017 saga , the guy apparently cheated on me and the gearbox was faulty. Imagine a 5 years plus car gear box already got problem and when I went to proton service centre three guys saying their X70 got gear box problem. You tell me how to trust a national China car. Apparently Japanese are much more superior in making things.
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it's clearly your fault, now imagine if previous owner didn't do jack sht about cvt oil change and etc for 5 whole years? you understand now? it's the previous owner fault, not the car.

And here clearly is saga 4at bruh.. not lousy CVT
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post Jan 30 2023, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(Nirnama @ Jan 28 2023, 01:12 AM)
Nope. Its just my honest opinion as proton user before. Never again.
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opinion, yes.
honest? not really and does not matter at all on your opinion

want my opinion? Perodua makes shit cars especially if you care about driving dynamics/enjoyment.
i will add on - ALL perodua models.
and no i have not test driven all of them despite saying that opinion.

is it honest? not really.
does it matter? definitely not to you.
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post Jan 30 2023, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jan 30 2023, 09:29 AM)
opinion, yes.
honest? not really and does not matter at all on your opinion

want my opinion? Perodua makes shit cars especially if you care about driving dynamics/enjoyment.
i will add on - ALL perodua models.
and no i have not test driven all of them despite saying that opinion.

is it honest? not really.
does it matter? definitely not to you.
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chill oi, haha..

for me his opinion is valid IF his car is +- 3year + got tons of issue. IF you say sht thngy about totally diffrnt thngy, your opinion doesn't mean jack sht.

For example IF someone comparing Saga FLX/BLM CVT to Latest Saga 4AT.. *facepalm*
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post Jan 30 2023, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jan 30 2023, 09:29 AM)
opinion, yes.
honest? not really and does not matter at all on your opinion

want my opinion? Perodua makes shit cars especially if you care about driving dynamics/enjoyment.
i will add on - ALL perodua models.
and no i have not test driven all of them despite saying that opinion.

is it honest? not really.
does it matter? definitely not to you.
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Well up to u. But believe many others have same opinion with me.

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post Jan 30 2023, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(Nirnama @ Jan 30 2023, 02:59 PM)
Well up to u. But believe many others have same opinion with me.
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there will be for sure, however X50 is still selling like hot cake is another different story.

While new saga is not selling a lot, it still sells by decent amount.
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post Feb 7 2023, 12:03 PM

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get persona instead.
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post Feb 7 2023, 12:07 PM

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take lowest spec auto saga and go for 8 years installment .
keep the money for early settlement later at around 5 years old

after settle the car loan maybe can sell it and upgrade to better car than city..maybe suv mpv or c segment sedan
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Jan 27 2023, 10:25 AM)
If plan to upgrade in future better buy Perodua Myvi or Bezza, a lot of people here talk like very good driver, but for average people Perodua will always better compare to Proton (Look at Perodua sales already proven).

1st - 2nd value confirm win
2nd - Reliability
3rd - Spare part availability (New & 2nd hand half-cut a lot)
4th - A lot of aftermarket parts to mod.
5th - If buy AV top spec. got ASA & more safety features compare to Proton Saga/Persona.

If you care about your family, i would be better get a reliable & safe car.
As if i fetch my family i wont be driving like race car that need so much handling advantage.

BTW, new Axia is coming soon, it if really come with 1.0 turbo engine it is going to be another super car on road..  laugh.gif
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sorry for new locally grown perodua like myvi g3 axia alza and bezza(except ativa) some point are not applicable anymore especially the half cut parts luls.
due the fact that myvi g3 is locally developed with the help of daihatsu only powertrain and suspension component maybe available in used or halfcut market.. if you said for myvi icon or the older myvi then its accurate..
it is not as robust as older myvi...but still reliable..the headlamp for myvi g3 are not cheap..and the windscreen too..all those sensors etc only available as new and maybe need to order for few weeks..

more or less its the same as proton locally developed car but only with better japanese power train and spare parts availability. Other than that i dont think any other perks of latest perodua that are better than proton..

availability of aftermarket parts maybe is shopee motorsport right.
like tiktokers bezza and myvi..this one not entirely true previously you could use japanese aftermarket for older myvi..but now its the same parts from taiwan and malaysia especially those absorbers..ecu from thailand and etc..which is not much difference than proton aftermarket parts also..lol

1st point and 2nd point i agree but the other two points meh...

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