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post Feb 20 2023, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(Iceman74 @ Feb 20 2023, 10:00 AM)
His result are the worst among all the managers during Roman era
Really no eye see where we heading
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Potter still puling out the 'i tried', 'injury' and 'not my fault' card

So tired of his press conferences, sucha defeatist attitude. If manager small mentality like this, this also carries over to the players

Give manager time is an age old excuse to trust the process 😂

But hey, ten hag also first season and look wer mengyu is now

No results how to trust the process?

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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Feb 20 2023, 12:39 AM)
Good price to pay for yes man  whistling.gif
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Really painful to see Toad 🐸 Boehly making stupid rookie mistakes and pay 💰 huge money as tuition fees 😭😭😭
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post Feb 20 2023, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Feb 20 2023, 02:20 PM)
Really painful to see Toad 🐸 Boehly making stupid rookie mistakes and pay 💰 huge money as tuition fees 😭😭😭
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Biggest mistake is thinking we can take a midtable coach and turn him into a serial winning coach by throwing money at player transfers

Didn't Roman already tried that with avb project? And mengyu also tried with moyes, barca with koeman?

Btw, we spent wayy too much on prospects rather than proven, players and coach included

What a shitshow. Ask boehly to put the club up for sale again and let roman buyback la 🤭

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post Feb 20 2023, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Feb 19 2023, 08:27 PM)
Chelsea has been relegated 6 times in first division before move to premier league

Also not consistent la, we hover from 2nd place to 14th place

Last time I supported newcastle also know2 la, chelsea almost bankrupt before
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I dunno when was CHE last relegated, but I start following CHE during GULLIT/VIALLI era, as far as i remember we are around top 6 club, never close to bottom table fighting relegation.

To say RA save "relegation fodder" to champion is just too far fetch laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Feb 20 2023, 02:37 PM)
Biggest mistake is thinking we can take a midtable coach and turn him into a serial winning coach by throwing money at player transfers

Didn't Roman already tried that with avb project? And mengyu also tried with moyes, barca with koeman?

Btw, we spent wayy too much on prospects rather than proven, players and coach included

What a shitshow. Ask boehly to put the club up for sale again and let roman buyback la 🤭
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Unproven coach is hit or miss, but that is the trend now and they are on the rise, EDDIE HOWE, ARTETA former assistant coach, PEP former BARCA B team manager. Problem is not hiring them, but when to cut loose if they dont work.

U sure u want RA back ? later MARINA and CECH will come back too, u wanted them out so much and was BOEHLY-IN number 1 fans back then tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif

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post Feb 20 2023, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(chitchat @ Feb 20 2023, 02:50 PM)
I dunno when was CHE last relegated, but I start following CHE during GULLIT/VIALLI era, as far as i remember we are around top 6 club, never close to bottom table fighting relegation.

To say RA save "relegation fodder" to champion is just too far fetch  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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Most recent is 1987, what about hoddle era lel
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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Feb 20 2023, 02:54 PM)
Most recent is 1987, what about hoddle era lel
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Wah lao 87, HODDLE i think is before GULLIT, I can say GULLIT is the player that make me notice CHE, because at that time he is a player manager so is quite interesting.

I first following football at World Cup 94, supporting ITALY. After world cup only follow INTER MILAN but due to broadcast timezone and english league getting popular, decided to support CHE because of italian player VIALLI/ZOLA/DI MATTEO/CASIRAGHI.
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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Feb 20 2023, 01:15 PM)
Potter still puling out the 'i tried', 'injury' and 'not my fault' card

So tired of his press conferences, sucha defeatist attitude. If manager small mentality like this, this also carries over to the players

Give manager time is an age old excuse to trust the process 😂

But hey, ten hag also first season and look wer mengyu is now

No results how to trust the process?
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I think he trying very hard to get sacked and get easy compensation for that 5 years contract politely.
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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Feb 20 2023, 01:15 PM)
Potter still puling out the 'i tried', 'injury' and 'not my fault' card

So tired of his press conferences, sucha defeatist attitude. If manager small mentality like this, this also carries over to the players

Give manager time is an age old excuse to trust the process 😂

But hey, ten hag also first season and look wer mengyu is now

No results how to trust the process?
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If he showed more fire and fight in his post match conferences, I GUARANTEE you more people would be on his side. But it's the same old dross, no aggression or anything to get the blood pumping even for just a bit. What really pisses me off is how he appears to be the least bothered person in the room when shitty VAR decisions were going against us and even now after that assault on azpi, where's the anger??? where's the fury when your CAPTAIN is lying in the hospital from a stupid bicycle kick attempt??? Nothing. Not a peep. Bloody hell, even old man sarri would be looking for a fight if that happened under his watch!

We had pundits who weren't even pro chelsea who were more upset about that soucek handball. Potter's passive. Perfectly suits his mid table ambitions.

QUOTE(chitchat @ Feb 20 2023, 03:15 PM)
Wah lao 87, HODDLE i think is before GULLIT, I can say GULLIT is the player that make me notice CHE, because at that time he is a player manager so is quite interesting.

I first following football at World Cup 94, supporting ITALY. After world cup only follow INTER MILAN but due to broadcast timezone and english league getting popular, decided to support CHE because of italian player VIALLI/ZOLA/DI MATTEO/CASIRAGHI.
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Zola man, what a player. None of our attackers are fit to even lace his boots, that much I'm sure of. Arrived in the league at 30 (from serie A to boot) and absolutely tore it up. 8 goals and 9 assists in his first season. At 30. EIGHT GOALS AND NINE ASSISTS.

Havertz looks like a poundland berbatov in comparison.
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post Feb 20 2023, 09:06 PM

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QUOTE(Iceman74 @ Feb 20 2023, 07:57 PM)
I think he trying very hard to get sacked and get easy compensation for that 5 years contract politely.
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Nah, he's trying but nothing is working, papa boleh determined not to pay the 60m payout clause, it would look super embarrassing

Would getting smashed by Tottenham and getting eliminated from ucl change their silly stance?

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post Feb 20 2023, 10:29 PM

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Lel, this pr spin... they just wanna deflect the blame and drag tuchel's name through the mud to make themselves look good... my respect for papa boleh went to zero already







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QUOTE(Kerplunk @ Feb 19 2023, 08:09 PM)
I think the theory of boehly wanting to get involved with team selection / tactics, etc to the tune of football manager is a bit far fetched, impossible for something scandalous as that to remain hidden. Even when social media was not as prevalent during roman's era, word of him wanting to force signings such as torres,etc on new managers spread fast. Hard to believe he'd get away with this, when even our lineup can be leaked by moles practically a day before the game.

I won't criticise him for throwing down insane money for our signings, but that huge 5 year contract given to potter looks like the most idiotic decision as each day goes by. You either go short + lucrative contract or long + medium / smallish contract. Going with a big fat long and lucrative contract just looks like pure stupidity now because any attempt to remove him will have an impact on FFP.

Note: You'd think boehly and the consortium would reserve that for the crème of the crop, not some up and coming 'pretender.' 😮‍💨
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This pretty much confirms what I said... whistling.gif

Board interfering with player selections... not gonna end well... already sounds like woodward 2.0, psg 2.0



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QUOTE(Ivan Sac @ Feb 20 2023, 10:33 PM)
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Already drop to 26% if included most recent matches.
We still got another 15 matches and with around 25% winning it
By end of 38th matches.. 12 points plus some draw points

Our points for this season will be around 45points if Potter maintain this shitty performance.

Lampard must be either laughing or crying hard cos he can do better closed eye.
This Potter are not from others leagues, so don't tell us he still needs time to familiar with EPL.
Normally I trying give new manager some time to adjust especially from other leagues but this Potter really tak boleh pakai.
At least other managers know theirs incompetent tactically but they sure can act gung-ho and fired up when bully by referee decisions or other players on our players. He just lembik on both

The board doesn't have any KPI to judge the team performance? Like every 5 matches vs previous 5 matches or 10 vs 10 to spot any improvement or worsening?

Really no eyes see

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post Feb 21 2023, 01:30 AM

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QUOTE(Iceman74 @ Feb 21 2023, 12:54 AM)
Already drop to 26% if included most recent matches.
We still got another 15 matches and with around 25% winning it
By end of 38th matches.. 12 points plus some draw points

Our points for this season will be around 45points if Potter maintain this shitty performance.

Lampard must be either laughing or crying hard cos he can do better closed eye.

The board doesn't have any KPI to judge the team performance? Like every 5 matches vs previous 5 matches or 10 vs 10 to spot any improvement or worsening?

Really no eyes see
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This board got care about fans ke? Last time when pitch to takeover from roman, promise everything will be about the fans, make decisions for the fans. Nowadays krik krik krik

You see they're so busy spinning PR slander deflecting the blame to tuchel and previous board for their shortcomings, they also just outed themselves by saying board actually does have a say in team selections before matches

They just don't want to admit they effed up, if sack potter means they have to pay that 60m payout clause and make an embarrassment out of themselves

Just watch, I predict next season even if potter has full pre-season and still get this result, they're gonna come up with more excuses to save face

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post Feb 21 2023, 04:21 PM

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You know what, after looking back at the recent pr stunt and piecing together information

This just reeks of board interference and executive orders behind the scenes, no way potter can be this bad if it's really him having full control as a manager
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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Feb 21 2023, 04:21 PM)
You know what, after looking back at the recent pr stunt and piecing together information

This just reeks of board interference and executive orders behind the scenes, no way potter can be this bad if it's really him having full control as a manager
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To be expected I guess.
The Roman way of old vs the Boehly approach. Huge shift in the entire structure.
Boehly probably dug a few too many skeletons from the closet than he could handle and has to step-in to stop the rot (unfortunately not the one on the pitch, but the ones for the clubs operational/financial prowess).

Need to keep in mind, he's not someone who cincai suka hati do something, his moves and approach are data-driven. One can only hope this transitional(?) phase will end soon and the whole structure can refocus for on-the-pitch performances.
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post Feb 21 2023, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(GravityFi3ld @ Feb 21 2023, 05:02 PM)
To be expected I guess.
The Roman way of old vs the Boehly approach. Huge shift in the entire structure.
Boehly probably dug a few too many skeletons from the closet than he could handle and has to step-in to stop the rot (unfortunately not the one on the pitch, but the ones for the clubs operational/financial prowess).

Need to keep in mind, he's not someone who cincai suka hati do something, his moves and approach are data-driven. One can only hope this transitional(?) phase will end soon and the whole structure can refocus for on-the-pitch performances.
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Roman first few seasons also interfered quite a bit, shevchenko and adrian mutu signings often caused rifts between mou and roman
Luckily roman maybe realized this was doing more harm than good, so had less interference (his UK visa got declined is also probably one of the reasons)

But one of roman's best decisions ever was hiring mou, this was a guy who had winning mentality and knew how to win



Actually our most successful managers had a kind of aura about them, you didn't need few seasons to judge them, from their first presser you can already tell they're gonna bring in the goods



Potter? Not so much... maybe he'll get there one day, but I think it's gonna take years and even then it's not a guarantee whistling.gif

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post Feb 21 2023, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(GravityFi3ld @ Feb 21 2023, 05:02 PM)
To be expected I guess.
The Roman way of old vs the Boehly approach. Huge shift in the entire structure.
Boehly probably dug a few too many skeletons from the closet than he could handle and has to step-in to stop the rot (unfortunately not the one on the pitch, but the ones for the clubs operational/financial prowess).

Need to keep in mind, he's not someone who cincai suka hati do something, his moves and approach are data-driven. One can only hope this transitional(?) phase will end soon and the whole structure can refocus for on-the-pitch performances.
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Don't think that's quite right...

Hiring 29% win rate manager is not data driven approach sweat.gif

Even in brighton all three full seasons he had less than 35% win rate sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif

If you're truly ambitious owner, you'd hire based on his track record, don't tell me someone in the board looked at the 31% win rate and said there's our man

Even de zerbi (the new brighton manager) have better win percentage, 45%

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post Feb 21 2023, 05:34 PM

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Omg, if this happens, psg gonna cook bruce.gif and messi probably gonna win his 5th ucl

Somewhere in alternate universe, boehly and his entourage went to personally meet tuchel to apologize whistling.gif

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