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post Feb 11 2023, 07:58 PM

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QUOTE(Kerplunk @ Feb 11 2023, 07:37 PM)
Wasn't a free transfer though icon_idea.gif

Best coach we've signed? Oohh that could spark pages of posts and contents on here biggrin.gif
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It has to be JM, not just because of the trophy, he is the architect that transform CHE and bring those winner mentality to the team.

Even after he left, the backbone of CECH, JT, LAMP, DROG continue to carry the mentality to the team over numerous manager.




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post Feb 18 2023, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Feb 17 2023, 04:42 PM)
Needed a brilliant manager like jomo to build the team

Jomo probably one of the best, if not the best team builders out there, his eye for talent is insane
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I believe JM style does not suit CHE anymore, especially the profile of player we have and those "strawberry" footballer now. Team builder yes, no doubt on JM ability to win trophy, he do bring winning mentality to team, but is actually more to siege mentality. He always make the team believe the whole world is against them especially on his press conference. This does not goes well for "strawberry" footballer now, it only works with those old guard, same with SAF, i dont think SAF can hairdryer those young player now, especially those star player. It also does not go well with board, as is bad for club image. These siege mentality are actually fragile when team are not winning.

Eye for talent, not really, but he do know what type of player he want. JM are like CONTE, he prefer ready to perform player, he dont waste time on developing talent. When their team cant challenge for trophy then they will always be asking club to spend to buy player, ready made player, else they will sulk, blame the club, then single out player then leave.

When it come to style of football, fans will always be the same, when winning any football is good, when losing fans will start blaming negative football.

If we are looking for a long term manager, JM will not be a good choice, but if we looking for quick trophy then yes. Then it will be back to square one like it had happen, we have JM for 2 spell already, we seen that already.

I know u still thinking of TT, he actually did very well especially the sanction period, we are actually challenging for all trophy until the very end stage. But after winning none, he start losing the team nearing the end of season, the football is real real bad and it continue the following start of season. The LUKAKU saga and new board he cant get along is the main reason he was sacked. I fully think he deserve another season with all he have done for the club, but if he not the man BOEHLY want, and TT does not want to play the role BOEHLY want, so they have to part ways, no other choice.

I would really like C.ANCELOTTI back to manage CHE, he does not have a preference style of play, his always pick his formation base on the player he have. Good for us when we have owner that like to play Football Manager. Yes i do feel all the player we bought recently does not really come from POTTER, but those player are too good for POTTER to refuse, but does the manager have the tactical ability to fully utilize them. If a manager that only like to play one style of football like PEP, given them player that does not suit the style will only put pressure on the manager and bad for the team when he try to integrate them. Imagine given PEP player that cant string passes well or given KLOPP player that cant press. CA also well know of his people management, player always seem happy to play for him.











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post Feb 19 2023, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(zoidx_chung @ Feb 19 2023, 05:01 PM)
Most extreme case, new owners just don't care about the club, it just a new lubang to money laundering
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the takeover include investment of 1billion into the club, those crazy money we spent now is part of the agreement, and bulk of it already spend on team and nothing on facility/stadium so far.

when the investment reach/stop, BOEHLY will most likely operate like FSG, invest on what club earn, sell to buy policy.

there another clause in takeover, cannot take dividend out of CHE for 10 years, after that BOEHLY can do a GLAZER.
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post Feb 19 2023, 07:36 PM

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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Feb 19 2023, 04:40 PM)

Roman transformed chelsea from relegation fodder into a big club in 20 years, now all that is being torn down in 20 months
relegation fodder ? nah, CHE was like a top 6 club at that time, far from relegation, if not wrong we finish 2nd under RANIERI when RA takeover
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post Feb 20 2023, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Feb 19 2023, 08:27 PM)
Chelsea has been relegated 6 times in first division before move to premier league

Also not consistent la, we hover from 2nd place to 14th place

Last time I supported newcastle also know2 la, chelsea almost bankrupt before
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I dunno when was CHE last relegated, but I start following CHE during GULLIT/VIALLI era, as far as i remember we are around top 6 club, never close to bottom table fighting relegation.

To say RA save "relegation fodder" to champion is just too far fetch laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Feb 20 2023, 02:37 PM)
Biggest mistake is thinking we can take a midtable coach and turn him into a serial winning coach by throwing money at player transfers

Didn't Roman already tried that with avb project? And mengyu also tried with moyes, barca with koeman?

Btw, we spent wayy too much on prospects rather than proven, players and coach included

What a shitshow. Ask boehly to put the club up for sale again and let roman buyback la 🤭
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Unproven coach is hit or miss, but that is the trend now and they are on the rise, EDDIE HOWE, ARTETA former assistant coach, PEP former BARCA B team manager. Problem is not hiring them, but when to cut loose if they dont work.

U sure u want RA back ? later MARINA and CECH will come back too, u wanted them out so much and was BOEHLY-IN number 1 fans back then tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif

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post Feb 20 2023, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Feb 20 2023, 02:54 PM)
Most recent is 1987, what about hoddle era lel
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Wah lao 87, HODDLE i think is before GULLIT, I can say GULLIT is the player that make me notice CHE, because at that time he is a player manager so is quite interesting.

I first following football at World Cup 94, supporting ITALY. After world cup only follow INTER MILAN but due to broadcast timezone and english league getting popular, decided to support CHE because of italian player VIALLI/ZOLA/DI MATTEO/CASIRAGHI.
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post Feb 23 2023, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Feb 22 2023, 01:15 PM)

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ini u ker ? have seen u promoting the channel hard recently brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif
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post Feb 28 2023, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Feb 27 2023, 08:05 PM)
Boehly still hoping potter will become the goat of coaching excellence 🤭

History has already proven, no coach has ever become better over time, they hit their peak early then slowly decline afterwards

Very very few do, like saf example... But that was a very different time when there was only top 2, now there's top 4, top 6, top 8 even

Best example is moyes with man utd and koeman with barca

In fact, barca needed to rehire their previous president to sack koeman and get things back on track
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bro why are ur statement contradict itself ?

BARCA sack KOEMAN and get back on track, and XAVI is a fresh man, so he should be in decline as "History has already proven, no coach has ever become better over time"

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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Feb 27 2023, 10:14 PM)
Hahahaha, potter lost the dressing room kek

No results no process


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This is bound to happen when u have a squad that is too big, player that dont get to play will be unhappy/disinterest, indirectly affecting the training session and dressing room atmosphere.

Cant totally blame this on POTTER, the board has to be responsible for the over bloat squad. Remember during MARINA time we have a loan army ? even we cant sell those player, previous board try hard to loan them out rather than have them in the team. Guess the board are just too new, either not ready for this or does not have enough time to do this, so the next agenda on transfer market have to be clearing the squad.

That why i say BOEHLY is like playing football manager, got money buy only, never really base on what POTTER or the squad really need. POTTER will have to share the blame for being the yes man, but guess not much choice on his side, result not there, so boss say buying young superstar have to diam diam agree.

There is no fix to this over bloat squad until the next transfer window, all POTTER can do is just stick to his best/trusted 18~20 player rather than try to please everybody.

POTTER problem is of course how the team play on the pitch, the same problem i see happen during the end of TT helm, playing possession football, have all the ball but dunno what to do at opponent end, player are static all waiting ball to feet rather than make run to open space for others, so end up keep recycling passes waiting for opening that hard to come. Another similarity is playing KAI as striker, he is not a natural no.9 he dont have the movement in the box.

FELIX and ENZO is a good signing, can see they always try to look for forward pass when they play, how long will it continue ? or soon they will also start to do safe pass because no one is making the run. This have to be from the coach, i would not be surprise if JORGINHO start play better football in ARS than in CHE side passing.

BADIASHILE have been solid.

MUDRYK will require a lot of learning, those space he have for running and fancy trick in his previous league is no longer there and like HAALAND he is in a team that like to play possession football, where the player pace are better apply in team like TOTS and LIV. He have to try to play like MAHREZ, although MAHREZ have the ability to get pass player but only will do so at the suitable moment, instead of keep trying and lose the ball.


QUOTE(Iceman74 @ Feb 27 2023, 10:44 PM)
I think it already too late to appoint new manager even for Tuchel or Mourinho to do anything to savage this season.
It take a lot luck for others in top6 to drop a lot points for us catching up for top4 finishing.
CL will be fairytale story if we manage to pull thru and grab the trophy and a spot in CL next season.
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how do we win both of our CL trophy ? brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif trailing by 0-1 to DORTMUND, guess we have to change our manager before next DORTMUND game laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Apr 2 2023, 07:49 PM)
Old chelsea died when roman sold the club and boehly fired all the old staff

Marina, cech, tuchel, winning dna all gone

Give time until mudryk already 30 also won't win anything 🤣🤣
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oii u lupa u MARINA/old board OUT and BOEHLY IN kuat kuat one ler tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Apr 3 2023, 04:22 AM)
This season considered flopped already, we're not gonna win ucl, just do damage control from now, and give new manager proper preseason
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Oii u forgot how we won both UCL ? Thx AVB thx LAMP. Thx POTTER ? Hehehe

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QUOTE(Alexdino @ Apr 10 2023, 09:51 PM)
if is enrique he already leading the game vs wolves. He was in londan few days before.

i bet is negalsmann
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ya ENRIQUE, POCHETTINO definitely not board first choice, else would have appoint one of them and start preparing the team for next season. Board are waiting for NAGELSMANN or see whether got other option open end of the season.

Will uncle LOTTI get sack if he dont win LALIGA or UCL this season ? but i have feeling board are looking for exciting young manager only.
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QUOTE(GravityFi3ld @ Apr 13 2023, 09:50 AM)
UCL 2nd Leg is what Blues Magic are made of!
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i have to say this is CHE most overacted goal of all time laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Apr 22 2023, 01:50 PM)
Best part the boehly pr says chelsea reject them
But other side, it's actually enrique and nagelsmann who reject them

Nagelsmann already dropped truth bomb saying after see the structure in the club, he already not keen
Fuk, I'm out if he's gonna be our manager

I support chelsea 20 years ago, not todd boehly vibes fc
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Haha missing MARINA and co already ? At least if she is still managing we will not have 30+ player first team squad, definitely many will have already become loan army and your fav TT will definitely still be around. Becareful what to wish for, dont BOEHLY IN BOEHLY IN tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif

Well i can still understand maybe all the mistake BOEHLY made so far are because he does not have a team that help him make football decision in the beginning. But now, he have stop interfere in football matter, just concentrate on marketing end. And stop going into the dressing room, his present in the room does not help and only undermine the manager authority.

Be a true big boss like RA, only show up when big decision and important celebration are made. Like MIKEL said, when RA helicopter in, someone is getting fired cool2.gif cool2.gif cool2.gif

Even with existing connection in the club with NAGELSMANN but still unable to convince him to join, guess he seriously dont like the CHE structure, my guess must be related to BOEHLY involvement again.

I feel that if the new manager did not come in early, we will still be a mess next season. The main problem now is the number of first team player, we need to reduce to 23-25 player, that some big decision there and can only be done properly if manager have more time to observe. Definitely board will say some of the player cannot be sold, especially those BOEHLY just bought, and if we have to keep those player that coach dont need, and force to sell those he need more, this will cause problem in the football the manager want to play.

Because of this, I will prefer the new manager that is tactical flexible, instead of philosophy coach that play a certain football type that required to buy specific player type. BOEHLY have spent too much unnecessary, dont think he can afford to let new manager spend more, so is important the new manager are able to perform with the player we have.

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QUOTE(Iceman74 @ Apr 24 2023, 10:40 AM)
I think is Spur problems lol!
Even stronger Conte and Mourinho can’t shake them into serious titles contender
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But cant say LEVY didnt try his best, after many years of saving under POCH and manager before that, they build a wonderful stadium that give them a lot more revenue and that retractable pitch is nice.

After stadium is complete, he tried hire trophy winning coach in JM and CONTE and try to win TOT a trophy but it did not work out. U just cant expect TOT to spend crazy money in transfer like other rich owner club, to me their spending is about like LIV level and with a good coach like KLOPP should able to win a cup at least, winning EPL will maybe require more spending for a solid quality 25man squad.

To me both JM and CONTE is the one losing patience, they wanted a winning squad immediately, especially CONTE, he wanted out and self destruct, i am pretty sure LEVY will not sack him if he finish top4.

I will not want JM or CONTE back as CHE manager now, our player profile now does not suit them. Imagine BOEHLY vs JM/CONTE, gg maybe 1 season explode already laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Apr 24 2023, 08:45 PM)
Poch had neymar, messi and mbappe but still underperformed

That should be a red flag d

This board just picked the manager with the least amount of damage to their investments, if go with nagelsmann or enrique, confirm will have a massive clearout
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To be fair, POCH play high energy pressing and u expect those 3 diva to press ? gg

Not promoting POCH, but with only KOMPANY and ANGE in the list, the choice is obvious sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Shanks747 @ Apr 25 2023, 04:19 PM)
Those 3 sohai ...messi , neymar , mabbape wont press one ....they great footballer but useless in a pressing system which Pochtino used, Tuchel used, Anceloti used

Pep and Klopp also have pressing system......first of all our team got no galactico star like messi , neymar, mabbappe

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yup, PEP does not like ego player, he need to be the biggest ego in the dressing room for him to work. If player not happy with him then that player will be sold. He did not sign MESSI when he is leaving BARCA, story about signing CR7 ? only MANU fans got baited by his agent. I also feel PEP did not really like playing AGUERO as well because of being just a poacher that did not help much in build up. But AGUERO was scoring, so he stay in the team, same with the first arrival of HAALAND, i think PEP prefer ALVAREZ. But now i think PEP is really impress with HAALAND due to the amount of goal he scored.

QUOTE(dennis008 @ Apr 25 2023, 04:38 PM)
as long as he guide us back to top 4 and give us a good foundation i ll back him.. the next manager will win trophies if poch doesnt
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sound like a good plan, i will take it thumbsup.gif thumbsup.gif thumbsup.gif actually i am less worry about POCH but more worry about BOEHLY interference.

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gaeria84 will ur fav TT win BUNDESLIGA ?? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

kanchiong now,

HT DORT 0-2 MAINZ
HT COL 0-1 BAYERN
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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Jun 5 2023, 09:15 AM)


Confirm this boehly takde telur, haven't seen them won a bidding war, last season kena screw kaw2 by barca, now kena fuked by psg lol (must be revenge for ziyech punya pasal)

Caicedo twerking for arsenal now, no way he gonna choose us over them since we got no ucl
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errrr 10m per year that is almost 200k per week, cant blame BOEHLY on this one, u dont was us to be paying that kind of money and if suay later he turn BAKAYOKO level no ppl want to buy and we might need to subsidize his salary to get him out on loan.

guess he is not coming CHE, would not blame the player for picking bigger salary, oil rich club, ez domestic trophy. We cant win a bidding war with oil rich club, moreover is PSG which they paid 200m+ for NEYMAR release fee and MBAPPE 1m per wk salary.

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QUOTE(howyoulikethat @ Jun 9 2023, 12:40 AM)
i think Mudryk still got potential but Felix is definitely a flop. Hope this Mauricio can be like Maurizio, straightaway got cup
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actually i quite like FELIX, he is actually an attacking player that always try to play the ball forward, instead of side pass back pass, but 80m price tag just too expansive.

QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Jun 9 2023, 05:25 AM)
Both also flops

Looks like our midfield next season only enzo and galladog, we're selling most of our midfield but doesn't seem to be in any urgency to buy any replacements

Our players also no desire to stay at our club, all wanna cabut,even mr. Chelsea
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bro, what is this ? name calling our club player ? shakehead.gif shakehead.gif shakehead.gif

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