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pisces88
post Jan 23 2023, 03:19 PM

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tough luck. awb missing his man, then putting him onside later on. aih
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post Jan 23 2023, 04:37 PM

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Without casemiro, we kena bolos 3 goals. This is daily affair pre casemiro.

Arsenal still need fight City twice. Title race not over yet
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post Jan 23 2023, 06:14 PM

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Been too busy with work.. watch matches but no time to post here..

Noticed that United playing like a Jose team nowadays.. park the bus.. ball over the top, run from behind.. hit on the counter..
Hanging on 1-0 lead.. not proactively looking for the killing blow.. only reacted when opponents equalized..

Under Jose back then they called it cowardice football.. under ETH they call it progress.. same stuff different marketing..

Interceptions and successful presses is good.. similar like Ole first season..
Only one game showed control, dominate and dictate of the game so far imo.. against Spurs..

Signings.. 14 players out replaced with 7 last summer.. more than 1mil per week saved.. the manager said publicly the squad is full and good..
January window so far, one player out and one player in.. saved 456k per week.. Glazers must be happy..

The manager haven't said publicly the club not backing him.. so i take the rumors that the board dont back him as speculation..

Anyway looking forward to February 26, should be the day United 5 years trophyless run ended.. GGMU
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post Jan 23 2023, 09:38 PM

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Harry Kane to stay at Spurs rolleyes.gif


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post Jan 24 2023, 01:26 AM

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QUOTE(DarkWan @ Jan 23 2023, 09:38 PM)
Harry Kane to stay at Spurs  rolleyes.gif


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He will end up like shearer, won nothing despite scoring alot of goals every season šŸ˜…
aaron1717
post Jan 24 2023, 01:29 AM

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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Jan 23 2023, 03:19 PM)
tough luck. awb missing his man, then putting him onside later on. aih
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He did very well nullifying martinelli already... Cannot everything also blame him lol... Midfield without a world class cdm reli alot of difference... Technical wise... This is why the non injured partey revitalize arsenal bolos ing midfield... Mctom is no where near there... And erikssen, susah... He is playing at his limit with his mechanical heart... 3 matches he also starting first 11
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post Jan 24 2023, 01:32 AM

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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Jan 23 2023, 06:14 PM)
Been too busy with work.. watch matches but no time to post here..

Noticed that United playing like a Jose team nowadays.. park the bus.. ball over the top, run from behind.. hit on the counter..
Hanging on 1-0 lead.. not proactively looking for the killing blow.. only reacted when opponents equalized..

Under Jose back then they called it cowardice football.. under ETH they call it progress.. same stuff different marketing..

Interceptions and successful presses is good.. similar like Ole first season..
Only one game showed control, dominate and dictate of the game so far imo.. against Spurs..

Signings.. 14 players out replaced with 7 last summer.. more than 1mil per week saved.. the manager said publicly the squad is full and good..
January window so far, one player out and one player in.. saved 456k per week.. Glazers must be happy..

The manager haven't said publicly the club not backing him.. so i take the rumors that the board dont back him as speculation..

Anyway looking forward to February 26, should be the day United 5 years trophyless run ended.. GGMU
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Lol half a season park the bus and u compare against jomo time... we have been playing counter attacking football almost all our life... how to change within 6 mths ? When we won cups with park the bus strategy... We also celebrated his achievement... But his park the bus strategy nt working subsequently make us ended up at no.10...

But anyhow... Plsss middle eastern billionaire come for us... Damn all the bizman money... Unless we get an owner like tedd boehly
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post Jan 24 2023, 02:43 AM

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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jan 24 2023, 01:32 AM)
Lol half a season park the bus and u compare against jomo time... we have been playing counter attacking football almost all our life... how to change within 6 mths ? When we won cups with park the bus strategy... We also celebrated his achievement... But his park the bus strategy nt working subsequently make us ended up at no.10...

But anyhow... Plsss middle eastern billionaire come for us... Damn all the bizman money... Unless we get an owner like tedd boehly
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I'm just saying it like how i see it and pointing out the double standards form the media and OT fans..

I do not know how to change the way team play within 6 months.. but Eddie Howe did it at Newcastle.. so it is not impossible as people alluded to..

Cowardice football, as long as end up with trophies, all is good.. Jose did it and won 2 cups.. that should be the benchmark..

This post has been edited by silvertoes: Jan 24 2023, 02:48 AM
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jan 24 2023, 01:26 AM)
He will end up like shearer, won nothing despite scoring alot of goals every season šŸ˜…
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Shearer won PL with Blackburn, and came close with Newcastle but didnt win much with them but its his boyhood club so it is what it is. Either way, we need to stop looking at these 30 year old attackers larh, time to go for younger STs.
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jan 24 2023, 01:32 AM)
Lol half a season park the bus and u compare against jomo time... we have been playing counter attacking football almost all our life... how to change within 6 mths ? When we won cups with park the bus strategy... We also celebrated his achievement... But his park the bus strategy nt working subsequently make us ended up at no.10...

But anyhow... Plsss middle eastern billionaire come for us... Damn all the bizman money... Unless we get an owner like tedd boehly
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We need an owner that makes this a passion project rather than treating it as a business. So i dont care where the owner is from.
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post Jan 24 2023, 10:43 AM

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As a personal opinion, I don't think it is completely accurate to say we are playing counter attacking football or even labelling it cowardice football. We are only as strong as our squad capabilities.

Start if the season, yes. The last 10 games minus the Arsenal game, I would prefer the word 'control'. We play a controlled game. We have control of the midfield nd the limiting of opposition chances before they materialise. We see less of our CBs making highlight reel tackles because there is no need to. We have a CDM in Casemiro who controls the flow and snuffs out chances early.

The Arsenal game was always going to be different. We are playing away from home. We are playing the most in form team in the League who are also the League leaders. We are playing without our most vital midfield player in Casemiro. And we lost only to a last minute goal. Playing open against Arsenal would be almost suicide with a midfield of McFred.

In half a season, I do see tactical progress towards a more controlled style play. And no, the Board has let the manager down and if we get Top 4, it is in spite of the Board and not because.

So for me.....

Progress : Yes. Tactical and team wise.
Manager : Big yes. ETH is exceeded my expectations at the half season mark.
Team : Still has holes in the squad to resolve. We need another midfielder badly and fullback cover.
Club Management : Still shit. Poor scouting, poor negotiation. Owners are crap. And yes club management has a big impact on a club, see Liverpool. Klopp is a World class manager and they are only in their position because club hasn't backed the manager and rejuvenated the midfield. Instead plonking 100m on Nunez and calling it a day.
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if can qualify for ucl more than enough for first season under eth
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This is not about simply giving playing time for fringe players anymore.
It is a must to rest at least half of the lineup team against Nottingham.
All of them is too tired.

Further more, EFL semi final is 2 legs.
Even lost, have 2nd leg at home to turn things around.

Casemiro can play, since he rested against Arsenal.
Malacia, Garnacho, Fred must replace Shaw, Rashford, Eriksen.
Other positions, Ten Hag really need to make a choice.

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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Jan 24 2023, 02:43 AM)
I'm just saying it like how i see it and pointing out the double standards form the media and OT fans..

I do not know how to change the way team play within 6 months.. but Eddie Howe did it at Newcastle.. so it is not impossible as people alluded to..

Cowardice football, as long as end up with trophies, all is good.. Jose did it and won 2 cups.. that should be the benchmark..
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They are just playing like they used to be with stronger defending tactics... They aint playing the beautiful football that everyone wants... But for me as long as the manager willing to change things accordingly, thats cool enough... Park the bus as long as can win something... Anything that can get 3 pts will do...
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post Jan 24 2023, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Jan 24 2023, 11:58 AM)


This is not about simply giving playing time for fringe players anymore.
It is a must to rest at least half of the lineup team against Nottingham.
All of them is too tired.

Further more, EFL semi final is 2 legs.
Even lost, have 2nd leg at home to turn things around.

Casemiro can play, since he rested against Arsenal.
Malacia, Garnacho, Fred must replace Shaw, Rashford, Eriksen.
Other positions, Ten Hag really need to make a choice.
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Nottingham away sapu them first then at home defending the lead... Reading match can put our second team for all we want... we need to rest alot players for europa matches
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post Jan 24 2023, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jan 24 2023, 10:43 AM)
As a personal opinion, I don't think it is completely accurate to say we are playing counter attacking football or even labelling it cowardice football. We are only as strong as our squad capabilities.

Start if the season, yes. The last 10 games minus the Arsenal game, I would prefer the word 'control'. We play a controlled game. We have control of the midfield nd the limiting of opposition chances before they materialise. We see less of our CBs making highlight reel tackles because there is no need to. We have a CDM in Casemiro who controls the flow and snuffs out chances early.

The Arsenal game was always going to be different. We are playing away from home. We are playing the most in form team in the League who are also the League leaders. We are playing without our most vital midfield player in Casemiro. And we lost only to a last minute goal. Playing open against Arsenal would be almost suicide with a midfield of McFred.

In half a season, I do see tactical progress towards a more controlled style play. And no, the Board has let the manager down and if we get Top 4, it is in spite of the Board and not because.

So for me.....

Progress : Yes. Tactical and team wise.
Manager : Big yes. ETH is exceeded my expectations at the half season mark.
Team : Still has holes in the squad to resolve. We need another midfielder badly and fullback cover.
Club Management : Still shit. Poor scouting, poor negotiation. Owners are crap. And yes club management has a big impact on a club, see Liverpool. Klopp is a World class manager and they are only in their position because club hasn't backed the manager and rejuvenated the midfield. Instead plonking 100m on Nunez and calling it a day.
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Interesting take
But to me I call it as is - shit is shit especially with Fred & McTikTok
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post Jan 24 2023, 01:48 PM

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Considering how things stand, I'd throw the FA Cup with a reserve side to focus on the League Cup. Getting a trophy in the first ETH season will provide such a massive confidence boost.

QUOTE(natx001 @ Jan 24 2023, 01:18 PM)
Interesting take
But to me I call it as is - shit is shit especially with Fred & McTikTok
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Happy to dive deeper into it if you want to. Shit is always in comparison to something else. Are you referring to the McFred pairing as shit? Or the team progress to date is shit?

I can't remember the last time I was this positive as a United fan even after a League loss. But I take my blessings whenever I find them now after the past 10 years.
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Progress is winning trophies.. United are suffering the worst trophy drought ever, in 40 years..
The longer this goes on, the further winning tradition and mentality fading away..



This counter should be on reset this coming Feb 26..

Minimum of one trophy per season must be reinstated as soon as possible..
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jan 24 2023, 01:48 PM)
Considering how things stand, I'd throw the FA Cup with a reserve side to focus on the League Cup. Getting a trophy in the first ETH season will provide such a massive confidence boost.
Happy to dive deeper into it if you want to. Shit is always in comparison to something else. Are you referring to the McFred pairing as shit? Or the team progress to date is shit?

I can't remember the last time I was this positive as a United fan even after a League loss. But I take my blessings whenever I find them now after the past 10 years.
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The McFred incl AWB - the rest I can still live with
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post Jan 24 2023, 07:42 PM

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QUOTE(natx001 @ Jan 24 2023, 03:55 PM)
The McFred incl AWB - the rest I can still live with
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Ah, to fix this requires Boehly levels of investment to refresh the squad.
Our current owners do not want to invest any more.

If these owners stick around, our DOF might just offer Fred a new contract to save money on bringing in a new midfielder. And perhaps…..just perhaps…..the legendary Phil Jones gets another 5 year contract.

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