bought one made in japan cast iron pan donkey years ago from carrefoour. best until now
Recommend non-stick frying pan. Ecowin? Tefal?
Recommend non-stick frying pan. Ecowin? Tefal?
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Jan 13 2023, 03:58 PM
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bought one made in japan cast iron pan donkey years ago from carrefoour. best until now
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Jan 13 2023, 04:01 PM
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QUOTE(gaman @ Jan 13 2023, 03:41 PM) All carbon steel woks will rust. Not enamel coated wok, it is treated DC01 carbon steel without coating. Yours carbon steel wok like the one in your photo doesn't rust because it is enamel paint coated. It would flake off eventually and rust. Well seasoned carbon steel would resist rust as long as the sensoned layer is intact. Not sure what they did to the steel to achieve this, but I do know how well carbon steel get rusted from just leaving it to dry or heat dry, rust already formed on the surface, but this one I tried scrubs/soap cleaning/metal utensils it is still stainless till today, but seasoning is still needed to have non-stick effect. This wok came at the price of about RM150 converted when bought from Taobao, you can give them a try |
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Jan 13 2023, 04:03 PM
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Carote >shogun> ikea 365+
Surprisingly carote is really good based on personal experience |
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Jan 13 2023, 04:05 PM
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QUOTE(MAGAMan-X @ Jan 13 2023, 10:07 AM) Anything ceramic coating. Greenpan is quite good. PTFE coating is "ok" but it comes off after a while. I have bad news for you.Avoid the traditional "teflon" coating, unless you don't plan to cook at high temp (meaning anything that smokes). silverhawk liked this post
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Jan 13 2023, 04:16 PM
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Jan 13 2023, 04:19 PM
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actually
if stick means your cooking skills not good good cooking skills what pan also no stick |
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Jan 13 2023, 04:23 PM
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Any brand even expensive one will stick after certain period....... PERIOD
No matter what type of coating. |
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Jan 13 2023, 04:26 PM
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Tefal works fine for me been using it for years liao. Not sure about other brands.
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Jan 13 2023, 04:27 PM
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actually last 20-30 years also no non stick pan pun tarak bising, the problem is strawberry cooking skill suck ...
u can just go to restaurant kitchen and check, see got any non stick pan or not ... those non stick pan is just a gimmick and the worst thing is those coating is bad for human health, mati pun tak tahu kenapa ... This post has been edited by lonely66: Jan 13 2023, 04:28 PM |
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Jan 13 2023, 04:29 PM
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Jan 13 2023, 04:35 PM
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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Jan 13 2023, 04:01 PM) Not enamel coated wok, it is treated DC01 carbon steel without coating. huh my carbon steel wok never does this. i always burn it on stove everytime after rinsing + scrubbing with bamboo brushNot sure what they did to the steel to achieve this, but I do know how well carbon steel get rusted from just leaving it to dry or heat dry, rust already formed on the surface, but this one I tried scrubs/soap cleaning/metal utensils it is still stainless till today, but seasoning is still needed to have non-stick effect. This wok came at the price of about RM150 converted when bought from Taobao, you can give them a try but i agree certain carbon steel woks are built different. i used a cheapo made wok, despite super seasoned, all it takes is to cook one sweet sour dish type and the seasoning ed died off and i get chunks of seasoning in the dish zzz. dahlah its cheap so its thin af, so heat retention + transfer is subpar meanwhile paid a for a higher end carbon steel wok which is >2mm thick, so heat retention is superb but heavy af. this one i cooked like mulitple sweet sour dish also didnt destroy the seasoning. but if seasoning wearing out, its repaired almost instantly just with me frying some stuff on it. back to as good as ever. love this wok for life Mac Wai liked this post
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Jan 13 2023, 04:36 PM
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For those interested in honeycomb cladding
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Jan 13 2023, 04:38 PM
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dun use teflon , u guys will makan till bola kecik n get cancers
just use carbon steel , stainless steel, cast iron |
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I don't like nonstick pans. Some Google websites claim when the coating comes off, there will be some toxicity.
I stay with stainless steel pans. |
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Jan 13 2023, 05:35 PM
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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Jan 13 2023, 03:40 PM) Get the high quality teflon pan, most brands have a range for that. Tefal's strongest range is the Unlimited series. what about Tefal Eternal series?If you're going for non-stick, just go with teflon coating. Don't bother with anything else. Ceramic will lose its coating over time, and some brands lose the non-stick coating within a feew uses. So far the best purchase i've made is a carbon steel round bottom wok (especially for asian food). Properly seasoned and regularly used, its very non-stick and takes abuse. You don't have to worry about it being too hot, and because its round bottom you don't have to worry about warping when its hot and you add water/cold food. Here's a quick summary of the different materials Teflon: super non-stick, but need to take care of temperature and no sharp utensils Carbon Steel: Needs seasoning to maintain non-stick (acidic food can stripe the seasoning), super durable but doesn't have good heat retention (but very good heat distribution) and can be prone to warping for flat bottomed pans/woks. If warped, you can actually hammer it back into shape Cast Iron: Needs seasoning to maintain non-stick (acidic food can stripe the seasoning), heavy and durable but can crack if dropped or sudden temperature change. Very good heat retention but very poor heat distribution. Enameled Cast Iron:: Not non-stick, but easy to wash. Brings the benefits of cast iron with the trouble of non-stick. Enameled coating can chip off due to dropping, hard utensils or sudden temperature change. Generally not worth it IMO Stainless steel: Non-stick if your technique (temperature control) is correct, super durable and good brands are quite resistance to warping. Decent heat retention and distribution. Can cook pretty much any food. Ceramic Coated: Non-stick, but ceramic coating wears offs, and you still need to control temperature like a teflon pan to prolong the coating. Better to just use a teflon pan. Don't. Its horrible and total waste of money If you think of it logically. The point of having teflon is for the non stick property. If you go and interlace the non-stick surface with a metal honeycomb net; sure you protect the teflon surface, but you lose the non-stick property. Its a really stupid solution to a problem. Kitchen equipment, always look at the basic science behind it, don't fall for marketing gimmicks. Grill pans are another waste of money. Most grill pans don't even have sharp ridges, so you don't get the burn marks. There'a almost no reason to get a grill pan, for most food you want it to have contact with the hot surface for malliard reaction to occur. Grill pan will only give you undercooked surface with overcooked lines |
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Jan 13 2023, 06:12 PM
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Jan 13 2023, 07:31 PM
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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Jan 13 2023, 04:40 PM) Get the high quality teflon pan, most brands have a range for that. Tefal's strongest range is the Unlimited series. thank you for the advise If you're going for non-stick, just go with teflon coating. Don't bother with anything else. Ceramic will lose its coating over time, and some brands lose the non-stick coating within a feew uses. So far the best purchase i've made is a carbon steel round bottom wok (especially for asian food). Properly seasoned and regularly used, its very non-stick and takes abuse. You don't have to worry about it being too hot, and because its round bottom you don't have to worry about warping when its hot and you add water/cold food. Here's a quick summary of the different materials Teflon: super non-stick, but need to take care of temperature and no sharp utensils Carbon Steel: Needs seasoning to maintain non-stick (acidic food can stripe the seasoning), super durable but doesn't have good heat retention (but very good heat distribution) and can be prone to warping for flat bottomed pans/woks. If warped, you can actually hammer it back into shape Cast Iron: Needs seasoning to maintain non-stick (acidic food can stripe the seasoning), heavy and durable but can crack if dropped or sudden temperature change. Very good heat retention but very poor heat distribution. Enameled Cast Iron:: Not non-stick, but easy to wash. Brings the benefits of cast iron with the trouble of non-stick. Enameled coating can chip off due to dropping, hard utensils or sudden temperature change. Generally not worth it IMO Stainless steel: Non-stick if your technique (temperature control) is correct, super durable and good brands are quite resistance to warping. Decent heat retention and distribution. Can cook pretty much any food. Ceramic Coated: Non-stick, but ceramic coating wears offs, and you still need to control temperature like a teflon pan to prolong the coating. Better to just use a teflon pan. Don't. Its horrible and total waste of money If you think of it logically. The point of having teflon is for the non stick property. If you go and interlace the non-stick surface with a metal honeycomb net; sure you protect the teflon surface, but you lose the non-stick property. Its a really stupid solution to a problem. Kitchen equipment, always look at the basic science behind it, don't fall for marketing gimmicks. Grill pans are another waste of money. Most grill pans don't even have sharp ridges, so you don't get the burn marks. There'a almost no reason to get a grill pan, for most food you want it to have contact with the hot surface for malliard reaction to occur. Grill pan will only give you undercooked surface with overcooked lines |
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currently using an IKEA TOLERANT
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