
Recommend non-stick frying pan. Ecowin? Tefal?
Recommend non-stick frying pan. Ecowin? Tefal?
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Jan 13 2023, 11:08 AM
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Jan 13 2023, 11:10 AM
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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Jan 13 2023, 11:06 AM) Totally agree, I tried to use wok, bought at supermarket I imported Carbon Steel wok that is stainless from China under Supor brand, just need to give them a good season and they can make real good meals and take real abuse. Tried to season kenot jadi. Stil got rust. Last2 simpan saja. Lucky cheap one |
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Jan 13 2023, 11:11 AM
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Jan 13 2023, 11:12 AM
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honey comb one
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Jan 13 2023, 11:13 AM
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QUOTE(tatabun @ Jan 13 2023, 11:06 AM) yeaa i saw this too when doing research Gordon is involved partly in promoting them as well.but i was just in awe when looking at hells kitchen team using them 😂 the way they cook rissoto in it I think these hybrid pan if you compared with a non coated and also not seasoned pan, they do really stand out because it doesn't stick as much. But after learning that non stick coating still fail with high heat, means these pan have lifespan as well like a non-stick... the hybrid only help solve the metal utensil part. Reason I don't like to use Non-stick not because I can't use metal utensils, its because I can't cook in high heat like I wanted to. tatabun liked this post
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Jan 13 2023, 11:13 AM
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Cast iron.
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Jan 13 2023, 11:14 AM
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Jan 13 2023, 11:19 AM
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QUOTE(haroldz123 @ Jan 13 2023, 11:10 AM) I tried to use wok, bought at supermarket Supermarket one need to be oiled after seasoned because they will get rust,Tried to season kenot jadi. Stil got rust. Last2 simpan saja. Lucky cheap one And after wash with soap must season again and coat with oil. I can only say not all carbon steel made the same the one I bought from China not cheap for 34cm wok, but really won't rust. ![]() Another option is 304 Stainless Steel wok sure won't rust, but that one more sticky than carbon steel and I find it less tasty vs Carbon steel. The heat transfer is slower. I am comparing with Thermos 5ply Stainless Steel Wok |
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Jan 13 2023, 11:43 AM
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Just buy a old school black wok from those traditional shop. Mine lasted more than 6 years d, cooked almost every day.
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Jan 13 2023, 11:47 AM
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Carote > normal range tefal.
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Jan 13 2023, 01:34 PM
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non stick pan are not for heavy duty and high temperatures use... frying temperature is low and need to keep below 250 C . toxic fumes will appear if you over heat. Is Teflon safe if scratched? If you see scratches, that means the nonstick Teflon surface has been compromised and the chemicals could be flaking off into your food. To be safe, once a pan is scratched it's gotta go / says Google . So who strictly follows above rules ?? for healthy reasons get a good cast iron or carbon steel wok. dont buy the low price ones, those 30 cm around 100rm are fine. high temp deep frying no problem , and heavy duty . perfect for Asian cooking ! |
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Jan 13 2023, 02:58 PM
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Jan 13 2023, 03:07 PM
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Tefal Eternal
Better than those teflon non stick pan |
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Jan 13 2023, 03:09 PM
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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Jan 13 2023, 11:13 AM) Gordon is involved partly in promoting them as well. Price for kayangan onlyI think these hybrid pan if you compared with a non coated and also not seasoned pan, they do really stand out because it doesn't stick as much. But after learning that non stick coating still fail with high heat, means these pan have lifespan as well like a non-stick... the hybrid only help solve the metal utensil part. Reason I don't like to use Non-stick not because I can't use metal utensils, its because I can't cook in high heat like I wanted to. Cheaper alternative is Tefal Eternal series |
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Jan 13 2023, 03:30 PM
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Jan 13 2023, 03:37 PM
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seasoned carbon steel wok wins everytime
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Jan 13 2023, 03:40 PM
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QUOTE(kaizorah @ Jan 13 2023, 10:02 AM) Hi, I am looking for a suggestion for non-stick frying pan. Also, anyone uses Ecowin Maifan or Tefal Day to Day? How was it? Get the high quality teflon pan, most brands have a range for that. Tefal's strongest range is the Unlimited series. If you're going for non-stick, just go with teflon coating. Don't bother with anything else. Ceramic will lose its coating over time, and some brands lose the non-stick coating within a feew uses. So far the best purchase i've made is a carbon steel round bottom wok (especially for asian food). Properly seasoned and regularly used, its very non-stick and takes abuse. You don't have to worry about it being too hot, and because its round bottom you don't have to worry about warping when its hot and you add water/cold food. Here's a quick summary of the different materials Teflon: super non-stick, but need to take care of temperature and no sharp utensils Carbon Steel: Needs seasoning to maintain non-stick (acidic food can stripe the seasoning), super durable but doesn't have good heat retention (but very good heat distribution) and can be prone to warping for flat bottomed pans/woks. If warped, you can actually hammer it back into shape Cast Iron: Needs seasoning to maintain non-stick (acidic food can stripe the seasoning), heavy and durable but can crack if dropped or sudden temperature change. Very good heat retention but very poor heat distribution. Enameled Cast Iron:: Not non-stick, but easy to wash. Brings the benefits of cast iron with the trouble of non-stick. Enameled coating can chip off due to dropping, hard utensils or sudden temperature change. Generally not worth it IMO Stainless steel: Non-stick if your technique (temperature control) is correct, super durable and good brands are quite resistance to warping. Decent heat retention and distribution. Can cook pretty much any food. Ceramic Coated: Non-stick, but ceramic coating wears offs, and you still need to control temperature like a teflon pan to prolong the coating. Better to just use a teflon pan. QUOTE(tatabun @ Jan 13 2023, 10:06 AM) Don't. Its horrible and total waste of moneyIf you think of it logically. The point of having teflon is for the non stick property. If you go and interlace the non-stick surface with a metal honeycomb net; sure you protect the teflon surface, but you lose the non-stick property. Its a really stupid solution to a problem. Kitchen equipment, always look at the basic science behind it, don't fall for marketing gimmicks. QUOTE(Pewufod @ Jan 13 2023, 10:43 AM) Grill pans are another waste of money. Most grill pans don't even have sharp ridges, so you don't get the burn marks. There'a almost no reason to get a grill pan, for most food you want it to have contact with the hot surface for malliard reaction to occur. Grill pan will only give you undercooked surface with overcooked lines |
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Jan 13 2023, 03:41 PM
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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Jan 13 2023, 11:19 AM) Supermarket one need to be oiled after seasoned because they will get rust, All carbon steel woks will rust.And after wash with soap must season again and coat with oil. I can only say not all carbon steel made the same the one I bought from China not cheap for 34cm wok, but really won't rust. ![]() Another option is 304 Stainless Steel wok sure won't rust, but that one more sticky than carbon steel and I find it less tasty vs Carbon steel. The heat transfer is slower. I am comparing with Thermos 5ply Stainless Steel Wok Yours carbon steel wok like the one in your photo doesn't rust because it is enamel paint coated. It would flake off eventually and rust. Well seasoned carbon steel would resist rust as long as the sensoned layer is intact. |
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Jan 13 2023, 03:48 PM
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i use tefal, but wifey prefer cap buaya from thailand. she is better skilled, but those cap buaya pans very light and can cook quickly with high heat also.
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Jan 13 2023, 03:55 PM
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carbon steel or nothing
dont take cast iron, heavy af |
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