Lol. Ok if u say so.

now I can only get it for RM1,171 - so sad i missed the promo

Considering buying a POCO C65 as a budget phone.
Should I still be concerned about faulty updates and dead boot issues with xiaomi/poco phones?

First time xiaomi/poco buyer here.

This post has been edited by great123: Nov 12 2023, 09:56 PM

Bro, can know your budget? Because Poco C65 really is a bad phone at a bad price 😅 Helio G85 (the Poco C65 chip) should not be in a smartphone in 2023, especially when MediaTek has Dimensity chips.

600-700 ish. Mostly for online shopping and browsing.
Originally wanted to go for the redmi note 12 but missed the promotion period because I was on the fence for too long.
Not a tech savvy person, but isn't Dimensity chips currently for high end 5G phones? so definitely out of my budget.

topup a bit you can get poco f4 for <800 iirc.

but not sure still got stock or not. Last month still got..

https://shopee.com.my/POCO-F4(6-128GB)-Smar...63-a180c24a6028

This post has been edited by Optizorb: Nov 12 2023, 10:41 PM

If your budget is strictly 600~700, get theRedmi Note 12 (non 5G) 256 GB at RM606 or Infinix Note 30 256GB at RM626.

https://s.lazada.com.my/s.SYhPr
Redmi Note 12 256GB - RM606
It has the Snapdragon 685, which is much better than Helio G85 on Poco C65. In addition, it got 33W Xiaomi Turbo Charge and a 120Hz AMOLED Display. But it doesn't have 5G unfortunately.

https://s.lazada.com.my/s.SYSX4

Infinix Note 30 256GB - RM575
It has the Helio G99 which is much better than Helio G85, not to mention, a 120Hz LCD display with 45W charging. The Helio G99 is basically a Dimensity 6100+ but with no 5G connectivity.


If your budget is strictly within price range of Poco C65, get the Infinix Zero X Pro with Helio G95, which has better performance than G85, and a 120Hz AMOLED display.

https://s.lazada.com.my/s.SYSGl
Infinix Zero X Pro - RM432

This post has been edited by ASoulNamedLeo: Nov 12 2023, 11:09 PM

Thanks for the rec, guys.

5G isn't a concern for me yet.

The POCO F4 is pricier, so out of my budget.

The Infinix Note 30 looks tempting because of the CPU, seriously considering giving it a try.
Is it available in brick and mortar stores or available for purchase via shopee or lazada only?

Infinix phones should be available to try out in stores like DirectD brick and mortar stores.

As for the Poco F4, the other commenter given was a great phone for the price, but as he said, it is probably out of stock due to discontinuation of the device 😅

I'll scout around my local malls for any mob phone shops selling it.
DirectD sounds reliable though, since they have branches all over malaysia.

Thanks again.

Okay you mentioned budget strictly 600~700, I just found the Poco X5 5G for RM696.

https://s.lazada.com.my/s.SYiHh
Snapdragon 695 puts it on par with last year famous Poco X4 Pro and this year Redmi Note 12 5G. 120Hz AMOLED Display. Basically the Redmi Note 12 5G that is RM1099 but the design is like Poco phone.

You're welcome, but I'm sorry to say but I just found another offer (after 1 hour of searching), and found the Poco X5 5G selling for super cheap, and it fits your budget of 600~700.

https://s.lazada.com.my/s.SYiHh
128GB - RM696

https://s.lazada.com.my/s.SYRiG
256GB - RM727

This has Snapdragon 695 processor, 120Hz AMOLED Display with 1200 nits. 5G connectivity and even NFC support. This would be my best suggestion for your budget of 600~700 smartphones available currently.

After searching land and sea, the best offering is still from Xiaomi and Poco lmao

This post has been edited by ASoulNamedLeo: Nov 12 2023, 11:46 PM

F4 is not pricier lah, around 899 before any vouchers, Use those vouchers can get it to below 700 even.

but yea for this month seems like not selling, didnt see it.. Last month i check still got sell by POCO Official Global.
You can go chat with the POCO global store CS ask them whether still got sell F4 or not. Who knows, maybe they still have stock and can list the item back for you.

Proof: 2023-11-06 review, means that person bought during October like I said above..


If you manage to get F4 is no brainer liao. SD870 is still a very good chip. And for supposedly "budget" phone range of 600~700, you getting a flagship CPU that can easily last for another 3~4 years esp if not concerned with gaming, 120hz amoled with Dolby Vision. and the amoled is using E4 Samsung panel, the color accuracy and display is seriously on par with flagship Samsungs.. All this is to say, content consumption on the F4 is very enjoyable. Mind you this display is even better than what current Poco F5 using.. Then not to mention all the other stuff that is good like 67W fast charging, pretty good battery capacity, etc etc

sos: i have f3, f4 and f5.

This post has been edited by Optizorb: Nov 12 2023, 11:49 PM

I suggest not blindly waiting for F4 considering F5 is already out, and F4 definitely discontinued a few months ago after launch of F5, so what's left of Poco F4 is either leftover stock or used sets. Still as per forummer mentioned, try asking one question to Poco CS and kindly ask if they have stock of F4 going to restock.

But for a currently available in market device, the Poco X5 5G at RM696 is the best one available in the market that fits the 600~700 budget.

This post has been edited by ASoulNamedLeo: Nov 13 2023, 12:09 AM

1) objectively wrong. Like I said, i saw it was still selling as recent as last month. Only this month they decided to pull it from the store or didnt restock listing.
but who knows whether they completely emptied their F4 inventory or still got some leftover stocks. That's why I say go chat with CS and find out, you never know manatau they still got F4 stocks..

2) its sold by poco official store, no used sets business here..

if the OP can somehow get an F4 (+vouchers) he/she should definitely go for it. Way way better than the X5. Only if really cannot get F4 then can settle for the X5.

For mom lol.. I m using 12T pro..

I think you misunderstood my statement, since the item is pulled off the store, it means it has been discontinued for general purchase as of at least yesterday already. And user great123 can't purchase a Poco F4 that is not available for stock at a not available price.

And your reading comprehension needs improvement, because I didn't say the seller is selling used sets, my meaning was that the currently available Poco F4 for purchase is now used sets elsewhere, since the listing has been removed from public view (i.e. like unlisted video on YouTube) on Shopee.

If you insist on recommending unavailable products, I can't restrict your freedom of speech, but it is objectively ironic and wrong to recommend a currently unavailable product to a buyer who is looking for a product available in his budget.

If ignoring price and availability,

Poco F5 > Poco F4 > Poco X5 Pro > Poco X5

If taken account of price (600~700) and availability, Poco X5.

This post has been edited by ASoulNamedLeo: Nov 13 2023, 02:21 AM

since when was the item pulled from the store completely?? It is still there, just that it is currently OOS.
The listing was only pulled off from their Lazada store, for whatever reason. Their Lazada store they nuked a lot of stuff anyway so it should not be used as any indicator.

product page: https://shopee.com.my/POCO-F4(6-128GB)-Smar...5d-25cbee9bf639

there's a chance it can be restocked. Again, it was still selling as recently as last month, which is only a few weeks ago.
It's not a far fetched idea that they could still have some stocks left.

Also, is my reading comprehension bad, or your english just plain terrible? If we want to go that route, you better make sure your english proficiency is excellent. Else you are just slinging mud at your ownself. You keep making misleading and downright untrue statements, then say other people got bad comprehension.

Exactly like that nonsense you are yapping about the F4 being removed from public view on Shopee, just like unlisted youtube videos

So answer me this then, which part of these statements are even remotely true? I quote you word for word yeah.

If the F4 is still sold officially by Poco as recent as last month, FIVE months after F5 was launched, which part of "definitely discontinued" and "few months ago after launch of F5" is true?

Also, i'm pretty sure you can still purchase brand new Poco F4 from those physical mobile shops y'know. If you look around hard enough, might even get them for a good price since they will be looking to clear their stocks. So again, it is just objectively wrong to say available poco f4 for purchase as of right now, are going to be ONLY used sets. Like in this whole Malaysia, every phone shop definitely wont have any brand new poco f4 lying around to sell at all 🤣🤣

Don't be so confidently incorrect la next time, you small fish in a big pond still got lots to learn about how the world works man.

Let me give you a clue la since you sound so clueless: past year flagships or top tier phones are POPULAR in our foreign worker market.


Also, you keep saying "unavailable" product, and I keep mentioning multiple times. it was still selling LAST MONTH.
If the OP have asked/chat with the CS to get a 100% confirmation that Poco have indeed stopped selling the F4, then sure your point stands.

For OP, the Poco F4 is priced just nice above 800 to make use of the 800-180 voucher. That alone will bring the cost from 900 straight down to 720. Not counting the usage of other shopee voucher/coins. Combine everything together, you could easily buy for around 600+ bucks only.

If I was OP, I would do everything in my power to try and possibly get a hold of the F4.
I would thought the same would apply to you when giving advice to someone. Instead of just taking the easy route to settle for the sub-par X5. What a lazy advice.

This post has been edited by Optizorb: Nov 13 2023, 05:28 AM

great123, good luck in applying his advice. Hope you have spare Shopee coins and lucky Shopee voucher as stated by Optizorb~

Sure Shakespeare. Also reminder for you to touch some grass, cause getting triggered enough to bold your words red to show your anger is a clear sign of mental disability. Lmao

This post has been edited by ASoulNamedLeo: Nov 13 2023, 04:44 AM

clearly i needed to bold them because you seem blind. Even bolded, you still couldn't/wouldn't/didnt want to answer me.
I just wanted to point out to you, your untrue statements you spew out.
So that this time you cant say I misunderstood you or that I have bad reading comprehension.

I'll ask again.
- So which part of the poco f4 listing on shopee was removed/hidden from general view? (just like unlisted yt videos btw )
- How is the F4 discontinued "months ago" if it is still sold officially as recently as last month?

You also claim currently if one were to buy an F4, "currently available Poco F4 for purchase is now used sets elsewhere".
- So what about those physical phone shops? I'm certain some shops still selling brand new Poco F4.

Hopefully you are able to answer to your claims la instead of just ignoring them. But i know fosho you aint got an answer anyway as i just made you look plain stupid.

You cant even rebut what I said after proving to you all the statements you make are just plain wrong.

So your only options left are to resort to personal attacks?

It's clear to see who's the triggered one with the mental disability here. Peace

PS: sorry to shame you again, but you dont have to be lucky at all to use the shopee voucher i mentioned earlier. that 10% discount (capped @ 120) is available for everyone, there's no quota limit for it.
No luck involved, just use it

This post has been edited by Optizorb: Nov 13 2023, 05:50 AM