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post Oct 16 2007, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Oct 16 2007, 08:12 PM)
yup and spinning and sustaining 8krpm and above stresses the biceps too. do if u want to train your biceps, try to sustain above 8k rpm for long periods of time. use the last function of the rpm meter to train smile.gif
nod.gif correct correct tongue.gif
http://www.powerballs.com/faq.php?id=30

=D u can send the item back to Ireland for warranty
but there are alot of useful information for small DIYs in the website FAQ
also, i'll post up soon a youtube video on how some fella easily open up his powerball =D
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I still can't understand the last function rclxub.gif How exactly to use it?

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Please remember to include some contact details - email, phone or both - plus a return name/address for us to use - and also please include a copy of the invoice or purchase receipt you received initially when buying the product (from us or one of our stockists).

Use the receipt that you included? Do they know? rclxub.gif

Btw, new highscore for me tongue.gif
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post Oct 16 2007, 11:20 PM

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Dear All,

Regret but not sorry to say that I have yet again broken my own record....

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post Oct 17 2007, 12:23 AM

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QUOTE(Crazy.SoT.Gila @ Oct 16 2007, 09:39 PM)
I still can't understand the last function rclxub.gif How exactly to use it?
Use the receipt that you included? Do they know? rclxub.gif

Btw, new highscore for me tongue.gif
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should be okay smile.gif
just photostat a copy
email a representative before u send la =D


QUOTE(timothyy @ Oct 16 2007, 11:20 PM)
Dear All,

Regret but not sorry to say that I have yet again broken my own record....

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=.='' so little increasement only
hahaha xD
steriod wearing out? tongue.gif
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post Oct 17 2007, 01:34 AM

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wah my right arm now rclxub.gif
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post Oct 17 2007, 03:00 AM

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QUOTE(alkt @ Oct 17 2007, 01:34 AM)
wah my right arm now  rclxub.gif
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hahaha arm already masam ah tongue.gif

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post Oct 17 2007, 08:44 AM

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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Oct 17 2007, 12:23 AM)
should be okay smile.gif
just photostat a copy
email a representative before u send la =D
=.='' so little increasement only
hahaha xD
steriod wearing out? tongue.gif
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I can't understand... unsure.gif unsure.gif
Someone who cannot make it over 11k mark wanna comment on 12k mark... whistling.gif whistling.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif

QUOTE(alkt @ Oct 17 2007, 01:34 AM)
wah my right arm now  rclxub.gif
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What happened? Rosak ah? Kekeke



daijaobu... the klik kluk sound is getting worse. Now when it spins, it gives a very loud "wong" "wong" sound already... icon_question.gif icon_question.gif

Oh... oh... I forgot... I made 3 thumb flip starts after hundreds of tries. But still not consistent yet...

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Crazy.SoT.Gila
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QUOTE(timothyy @ Oct 16 2007, 11:20 PM)
Dear All,

Regret but not sorry to say that I have yet again broken my own record....

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laugh.gif laugh.gif

Going for 13k?

QUOTE(daijoubu @ Oct 17 2007, 12:23 AM)
should be okay smile.gif
just photostat a copy
email a representative before u send la =D
=.='' so little increasement only
hahaha xD
steriod wearing out? tongue.gif
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Aight I see! biggrin.gif

QUOTE(timothyy @ Oct 17 2007, 08:44 AM)
I can't understand...  unsure.gif  unsure.gif
Someone who cannot make it over 11k mark wanna comment on 12k mark... whistling.gif  whistling.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
What happened? Rosak ah? Kekeke
daijaobu... the klik kluk sound is getting worse. Now when it spins, it gives a very loud "wong" "wong" sound already...  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif
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Mine have that sound too =\
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post Oct 17 2007, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(timothyy @ Oct 17 2007, 08:44 AM)
daijaobu... the klik kluk sound is getting worse. Now when it spins, it gives a very loud "wong" "wong" sound already...  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif

Oh... oh... I forgot... I made 3 thumb flip starts after hundreds of tries. But still not consistent yet...
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QUOTE(Crazy.SoT.Gila @ Oct 17 2007, 09:06 AM)
laugh.gif  laugh.gif

Going for 13k?
Aight I see! biggrin.gif
Mine have that sound too =\
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tongue.gif at least i can do thumb flick lol tongue.gif tongue.gif

the kluk kluk or wong wong sound is normal, also occurs in mine
its all because of the way u slow down the ball after you powerburst
read this faq
suprisingly managed to find a website that explains what i meant in detail, and it happens to be india's powerball site tongue.gif

http://www.powerballindia.com/powerball-india-faqs.html#8

My Powerball isn't as smooth and quiet as it was..
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This is a common complaint and is easy to solve.

When you first take the ball from its box, you will note the perfectly fluid and silent action with which it operates - the rotor whirr's away and there is no noise, bar that 'jet fighter' sound as the speed increases.

After a few weeks of use however, this lovely fluid movement and silent rotation can be replaced by a noisy, gravely movement, which, although still yielding out much the same torque, doesn't offer as much pleasure of use as from when it was new and you probably wonder just what might be wrong with it all?

What we have found from experience is that customers would take the ball and spin it up to around 10,000rpm - at which point their limbs become tired and they cease building the speed and slacken or loosen their (tired) hand grip on the gyro. Now, despite the fact that the rotor itself is absolutely perfect in its balance, it is still traveling at around 9000rpm and is putting out considerable inertia. This 'gyroscopic torque' is transmitted into the outer sphere, which is now sitting quite loosely in the players hand and begins to resonate or shake in sympathy with the slowing rotor (which itself will begin to 'jarr' or grate inside the sphere. making that awful rattling noise as the speed is violently scrubbed off as a result!).

The rotor is supported on a hardened steel axle which itself sits on a smooth poly carbonate support ring - this support ring is sandwiched in between the lips of the two halves of the outer sphere - in a cavity of about 5 mm in height (this cavity is what allows that 'play' in the rotor when the ball is stationary). Each time the ball is allowed to slow down in this 'unsupported' manner and makes that grating noise as a result, tiny fragments of plastic are shed from that support band as it revolves around which, over a period of time will eventually cause that rough noise you are currently hearing in those older balls.

In this instance, what can also happen is the that perfectly fitting axle (which sits into the rotor support band at the 12 o'clock and 6 o'clock positions) will begin to enlarge the hole(s) in which it sits from perfectly fitting circles into larger oval shaped holes or even figure of 8 holes which results in an unpleasant play in the rotor and will help to slightly reduce the overall speed it can achieve.

Again, this isn't a huge issue as the ball will still do its job and exercise the required limbs each time you use it - however, the noise and roughness is disappointing when you recall how smooth they were from new and as a result you'd be keen to make sure it doesn't keep on happening! (As a counter measure, we have written the above cause/cure into our instruction manual which comes with each ball in order that our customers would always try to hold the ball tightly while the rotor is spinning.)

Its not, therefore, about how you start them...its simply about how you stop them - keep a firm grip at all times.

Anyway...the solution for this ailment is twofold:

Get a high pressure air source, remove the counter and while the rotor is spinning at around 5k, blast the air jet into the top of the ball - this will serve to dislodge the plastic dust that has built up inside the cavity (alternatively, open the ball in a small vice and clean it out with a soft dry cloth)
After you have done this, continue to use the ball as normal, except making sure that it is always held firmly until the rotor has stopped.

Washing the unit is also possible. ONLY THE MODELS WHICH DO NOT PRODUCE ANY LIGHT. Make sure to remove the counter first - and wash it in warm water with no soap and make sure to rinse well and leave to dry properly - though we personally prefer the high pressure air method!)

Simple as that!

Finally, Powerball should never be lubricated....ever! That will kill it instantly!
So no worries guys =D. It'll still give out the super strong torque, just wont feel as nice flex.gif
Try to slow it down properly so it doesnt worsen smile.gif
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post Oct 17 2007, 01:21 PM

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I just got mine from poslaju, coz I was not at home when it came on Friday.

Anyway, been trying it... I gotta say, it's either I am not doing it right or simply dumb or it's damage during postage, I just can't maintain the ball to keep rolling. As soon as I spin it with the starter string, and face it down and move my wrist, it dies off like in matter of seconds. And it keep having the knocking sound.

I will try more after work tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Renovatio @ Oct 17 2007, 01:21 PM)
I just got mine from poslaju, coz I was not at home when it came on Friday.

Anyway, been trying it... I gotta say, it's either I am not doing it right or simply dumb or it's damage during postage, I just can't maintain the ball to keep rolling. As soon as I spin it with the starter string, and face it down and move my wrist, it dies off like in matter of seconds. And it keep having the knocking sound.

I will try more after work tongue.gif
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Pull the string harder!! HARDER!! drool.gif drool.gif laugh.gif

djb, the counter can take out 1 kah? I thought only for those who bought the counter and ball separately can take out?
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post Oct 17 2007, 03:12 PM

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mine also so smooth now a...
n lots noise cry.gif
scare to open it le... sad.gif
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post Oct 17 2007, 03:21 PM

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Looks like a lot of us having the noise problem ... me also cry.gif ... n it started noisy after the third times, also .. it vibrate a bit before stop ....
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post Oct 17 2007, 03:33 PM

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jz open up n clean it.... got bit improvement.. ^^
mayb jz like it says... best method is use the high pressure air blow... easy... icon_idea.gif
use my cloth like so hard to rub off the tiny particle.. :S
btw... i jz know tat it's the 'white silicon' thing spinning le....
won't the 'white' thing wear off after few years usage??
since.... it keep spinning around 10k ma whistling.gif tongue.gif:P
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post Oct 17 2007, 06:07 PM

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Kekeke...
There are 2 movements in the PowerBall.
1 vertically and another horizontally.

The vertical movement is the one that make the F1 sound. And this is the one that gives the RPM reading.
The horizontal is the one that balance the inertia. This is the one that is making the klik kluk sound and wong wong sound. Hence, that is why they claim it will not effect the efficiency of the Powerball.

Anyway... how come no ppl put up score.

djb... lets start the 30 sec challenge...
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post Oct 17 2007, 06:15 PM

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QUOTE(Renovatio @ Oct 17 2007, 01:21 PM)
I just got mine from poslaju, coz I was not at home when it came on Friday.

Anyway, been trying it... I gotta say, it's either I am not doing it right or simply dumb or it's damage during postage, I just can't maintain the ball to keep rolling. As soon as I spin it with the starter string, and face it down and move my wrist, it dies off like in matter of seconds. And it keep having the knocking sound.

I will try more after work tongue.gif
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ur not doing it right
you have to pull the string harder, and get at least 1500rpm and then use your wrist to maintain the momentum and slowly increase the spin smile.gif
the powerball is pretty hardy, it wont get damaged in the postage so easily

QUOTE(Crazy.SoT.Gila @ Oct 17 2007, 03:06 PM)
Pull the string harder!! HARDER!! drool.gif  drool.gif  laugh.gif

djb, the counter can take out 1 kah? I thought only for those who bought the counter and ball separately can take out?
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yup counter can be removed, use a flat head screwdriver and pop it out at the sides

QUOTE(stormaker @ Oct 17 2007, 03:21 PM)
Looks like a lot of us having the noise problem ... me also  cry.gif  ... n it started noisy after the third times, also .. it vibrate a bit before stop ....
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the reason why it vibrates before it stop is because you forcefully try to stop it by either slacking your hard or gripping it very hard and exert force opposite to the spinning direction. as you know, when the ball is stationary, there is abit of up/down play for the rotor. meaning, you can press the rotor up and down inside the ball when its steady. now when its spinning, it'll spin right in the middle, but if u were to stop it forcefully or you were to slacken your hand, it'll allow the ball to jump inside the track, causing the hard metal ends to eat up the track, or enlarge the polycarbonate ring. now when this happens, the smooth fluid feeling of the ball will wear out, giving that hard gravely feeling, but, it does not affect performance much, just the feel.

so, to prevent this, you must NOT slacken your hard or grip it very hard to forcefully stop the ball
you have to instead, continue to grip it firmly, and slowly reducing the amount of strength on the ball

also, the white silicon thing isnt the one moving at 10k rpm. the rotor is the one moving at 10k rpm. but the white silicon thins (called the polycarbonate ring) is usually the one that will wear out first smile.gif, depending on how u stop the ball.

QUOTE(hoon @ Oct 17 2007, 03:33 PM)
jz open up n clean it.... got bit improvement.. ^^
mayb jz like it says... best method is use the high pressure air blow... easy... icon_idea.gif
use my cloth like so hard to rub off the tiny particle.. :S
btw... i jz know tat it's the 'white silicon' thing spinning le....
won't the 'white' thing wear off after few years usage??
since.... it keep spinning around 10k ma whistling.gif tongue.gif:P
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if u use it properly it wont wear off for years and years
but if u continue to stop it the wrong way, it'll eventually wear off and you'll have to replace the polycarbonate ring and/or the housing, which i think u can request from them to be sent to u
the rotor is the one that can last very very long, and its the most important part. the ring and housing is easily replacable smile.gif


Added on October 17, 2007, 6:33 pmGuys read this :

http://www.powerballs.com/faq.php?id=27

Like i said, do not worry cause it wont degrade the performance significantly smile.gif. But im asking from Powerball regarding warranty procedur as well as how to get replacements parts. Hopefully they would allow me to get em, and then i can pass it to ya all smile.gif.

Else, you might have to request it from them yourself. I'll wait for their reply and update you all smile.gif.

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dude man.. finally know how to use it haha I am a slow learner, now I can even do the stringless flick tongue.gif I have been rolling it for almost an hour, the entire right arm seems to be numb haha real fun indeed.
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Haha good for u renavatio =D. Im impressed u managed to learn the thumb flick so fast thumbup.gif

Guys i've opened up my Powerball and cleaned the track, now its smooth again!! thumbup.gif. Apparently, those chipped off plastic from the casing and the polycarbonate ring are like little 'bumps' when they accumulate on the tracks. So when the metal rod goes over them, you can feel the uneven bumps and jerks. Once i opened it up and cleaned up the track and the polycarbonate ring, it felt much much more smoother =D. Of course you'll still feel the roughness because the track is no longer as even when it was new, but it will feel much smoother smile.gif.

You all should learn how to open your powerball. Its very easy. Watch this video :



Just use brute force. I whacked it a few times cause i was afraid i might spoil it, but it wont budge. So finally use proper strength and it popped open. The thing is tough! But try to put a soft cloth between the ball and the hard surface to prevent the edge of the ball from chipping smile.gif.

Also when you whack your ball, make sure 1 of the the screw hole is facing the floor, while the other screw hole is where u whack it. Just becareful not to whack too hard you hurt your hand tongue.gif.

I'll post up pictures of me cleaning my Powerball soon smile.gif


Added on October 18, 2007, 2:26 pmGuys please read the first post

I added 2 new parts :

DIY Opening and Cleaning

and

Warranty Procedure

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My PB is getting worse sad.gif I can clearly see more white particles in the shell now. It seems that although I have tried to follow the instructions, it still damages the ball unsure.gif I might try opening it up tomorrow. Can feel more roughness too during the spins. Only 1 week old cry.gif

On the plus side, I achieved a new highscore of 11499! biggrin.gif Was 11495 previously sweat.gif No idea where the camera is now ph34r.gif Left hand is able to break 10k too cool.gif


Added on October 18, 2007, 10:23 pmOh and, I would like to ask, is it okay to stop the ball straight away (use finger to stop it) while it's spinning?

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QUOTE(Crazy.SoT.Gila @ Oct 18 2007, 10:21 PM)
My PB is getting worse sad.gif I can clearly see more white particles in the shell now. It seems that although I have tried to follow the instructions, it still damages the ball unsure.gif I might try opening it up tomorrow. Can feel more roughness too during the spins. Only 1 week old cry.gif

On the plus side, I achieved a new highscore of 11499! biggrin.gif Was 11495 previously sweat.gif No idea where the camera is now ph34r.gif Left hand is able to break 10k too cool.gif


Added on October 18, 2007, 10:23 pmOh and, I would like to ask, is it okay to stop the ball straight away (use finger to stop it) while it's spinning?
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yes but you'll burn your hand
you can use your shirt too, but it might introduce lint into it

hmmm apparently it seems that the heavy users are the one facing this problem
cause mine also have the same prob, but after the cleaning its fixed
so i highly suggest u do the cleaning
read the first post, under DIY Opening and Cleaning
did for mine and it feels much much smoother now

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post Oct 19 2007, 08:29 AM

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QUOTE(Crazy.SoT.Gila @ Oct 18 2007, 10:21 PM)
My PB is getting worse sad.gif I can clearly see more white particles in the shell now. It seems that although I have tried to follow the instructions, it still damages the ball unsure.gif I might try opening it up tomorrow. Can feel more roughness too during the spins. Only 1 week old cry.gif

On the plus side, I achieved a new highscore of 11499! biggrin.gif Was 11495 previously sweat.gif No idea where the camera is now ph34r.gif Left hand is able to break 10k too cool.gif


Added on October 18, 2007, 10:23 pmOh and, I would like to ask, is it okay to stop the ball straight away (use finger to stop it) while it's spinning?
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Wow... 11499. That's good. Try using both hands to get high speed. For me, I am off as my wrist injury is getting worse after playing it. Kekekeke. Now, I got to use my wrist guard again.
Anyway, I can get thumb start with every few tries now. My left wrist injury is making it more difficult as I can't use my left thumb to flip or hold it tight when my right thumb flip.
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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Oct 18 2007, 10:55 PM)
yes but you'll burn your hand
you can use your shirt too, but it might introduce lint into it

hmmm apparently it seems that the heavy users are the one facing this problem
cause mine also have the same prob, but after the cleaning its fixed
so i highly suggest u do the cleaning
read the first post, under DIY Opening and Cleaning
did for mine and it feels much much smoother now
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I guess we have to bear with the wear and tear. It is just a ball made of plastic. What can we expect? No matter how good is the ball bearing, it still uses the plactic as th rail. Sooner or later, it will wear off.

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