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post Jan 25 2008, 02:44 PM

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Wow... Gato really thrashed Kou this time.

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Well, Gato himself got pwned too.

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Gatlings rule !!

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Gundamu, Ikimasu !!

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post Jan 26 2008, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(redeye84 @ Jan 25 2008, 11:02 PM)
Simple..

With Tomino out of the picture, Bandai has no more confidences in UC gundam anymore.

So almost every UC gundam created is now pretty much an underground market.
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Well, UC is still pretty much alive, at least in terms of gunpla.

I think the reason why Sunrise doesn't want to create UC anime is because the market is simply not there anymore. The only new UC storyline is Unicorn and their plan for that is in novel form to attract the old UC fans which are probably in their late 20s and early 30s. Anime is more geared towards teens nowadays, hence all the bling bling in GSD and 00.

I'd love to see a Unicorn anime, but if animes nowadays must follow the bling trend, I'd rather Unicorn remain in novel form.

QUOTE(Gravity @ Jan 25 2008, 11:17 PM)
where got bernie, i thought that kid is usso?
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That kid is Usso hehe...

I asked about the absence of Bernie in that pic, and redeye replied that Bernie's not a gundam pilot that's why he's not in mah.... hehe
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post Jan 26 2008, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(redeye84 @ Jan 26 2008, 07:17 PM)
I believe UC has still market. Its just Bandai doesn't want to risk it. Since Bandai plot Gundam though sales charts and not by story.

young teens can also love UC if they are shown the light. The problem is Bandai thinks its easier to simply just show bling bling mecha, 00 girls and bishie(for fangirls) than to create a proper story. They soon realize that this will be their very downfall..
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Very hard sad.gif

I've only managed to convert one kawan into UC after telling him about the UC origins and storylines... but he's already exposed to UC before as he watched F91 as a kid... Other mecha-loving kawans all love bang-bang action like GSD and 00 sweat.gif

Anyway, more Unicorn info !!

Jegan got some upgrades...
Behold, Stark Jegan !!
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A bit cluttered, but still not as exaggerated as some CE designs... Doesn't it resemble the F90's backpacks? The round barrels look like Chaos' remote gunpods.
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Astray stuff... new masked dude, or is it a girl? Meh... anorexic stick figure YUCK.
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post Jan 27 2008, 07:40 PM

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Akiba Space 6.0 Harutoshi Fukui talk show & signing event

DengekiOnline.com and Akiba Hobby covered Harutoshi Fukui's appearance at Akiba Space 6.0 to commemorate the grand opening of SuperModelers the day before. Over 100 fans showed up to hear the Gundam UC author speak alongside Dengeki Hobby's editor-in-chief and a representative from the Bandai Hobby Division. A variety of upcoming Gunpla were also on display at the event.

When asked for hints about upcoming developments in the story, Fukui said, "Since you know its Gundam, it'd be a mistake not to drop in on Earth". He also remarked that an aquatic mobile suit will be needed in the Summer and that he wanted a new GM-equivalent mobile suit to appear as well as a walking mobile armor. Upon hearing that, the other two guests jumped in on the idea, rapidly conversing back & forth with Fukui until they finally somehow ended up talking about a giant, 4-legged GM.

Later, Fukui threw an age-old question out to the gathered audience concerning Amuro Ray who, of course, is never described in detail following the events of Char's rebellion: "Do you think Amuro is alive? Do you think he's dead?" Many in the audience raised their hands for the former question while some others felt he was dead. Fukui said of this, "Very interesting response."

Near the end of the talk, it was asked if there were going to be any more Gundam UC kits. The Bandai Hobby Division rep answered, "I can't say which but I think I want merchandise of the machine designated as the Gundam Unicorn's rival." When asked for a show of hands regarding whether they wanted the Sinanju or the Kshatriya as a Master Grade, the Kshatriya won out.

Reading between the lines, here goes:

1. There's an aquatic unit, most likely to be Neo Zeon's. Probably something along the lines of a Z'Gok.

2. New GM equivalent... is that the Stark Jegan?

3. Giant 4 legged GM.... Oh oh, guys, remember Gells-Ghe in Lohengrin gate episode of GSD?

4. The mentioning of Amuro Ray... I still believe he's dead and prefer him to stay DEAD. If he is revived in Unicorn, then Full Frontal is surely going to be Char. Please... let the old dudes die. No Kira-style hogging the limelight please, give Barnage the chance to shine.

5. Finally, an antagonist MG to accompany the Unicorn... I say Sinanju.

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post Jan 28 2008, 02:50 AM

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QUOTE(wolfx @ Jan 27 2008, 10:43 PM)
Seed is the worse though. lulz. ZAFT end up calling their own mecha Gundam also although they were developed by OMNI 1s.
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ZAFT calls their mecha Gundams because it has the G.U.N.D.A.M. operating system. In fact, almost all mecha in the CE universe has this acronym for the OS as an excuse to call themselves Gundam.

QUOTE(300078 @ Jan 27 2008, 08:21 PM)
i dun think Sinanju will come out so fast! Most likely Bandai place the release date of such kit at Christmas or Summer!
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December 2008 most likely, just like MG Unicorn.
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post Jan 28 2008, 08:00 PM

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http://mahq.net/mecha/gundam/cca-msv/rgm-89s.htm
Oh yeah... Stark Jegan. The pods on the shoulders ain't remote controlled weapons, they are large missile launchers.

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OMFG. Meteor with legs... damn it give it some cannons. I'll seriously LOL if the whole backpack is just a gigantic beam sabre with no projectile weapons.

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post Jan 30 2008, 12:23 AM

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Eh? thread dead again?

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Kamen Gundam, ikimasu !!

Just found something shocking.
http://mahq.net/mecha/gundam/ggspirits/rx-78nt-x.htm

Alfred? Gundam pilot !! He should be piloting a Zaku instead !!
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Don't worry, it's just a video game which should be non-canon.

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post Jan 30 2008, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(300078 @ Jan 30 2008, 07:16 AM)
nvr saw this gundam before but is it funnels coming out of its back!? And really in the 0079 timeline does Gundam got funnels already? I thought back then still need wired funnels! and onli Zeon got those technology on their MA!
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People, read the mahq link tongue.gif
They're wired guided weapons.

Anyway, take that with a touch of salt. Video games are notorious for random non-canon stuff.
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post Jan 31 2008, 12:43 PM

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OMFG please people, stop the hentai incesturu crap. dry.gif

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Yes it is.

Haman decides to go kawaii !!
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QUOTE(james83 @ Jan 31 2008, 06:34 PM)
yes.. in fact she's half the reason (another half goes to Haro) i wouldn't want to watch that MV again..

and.. am i the only one who thinks Team Trinity sux?
Neena Trinity is a b*tch.. and the whole pupose of the emergence of TT is just a lame excuse for Sunrise to make another intro episode..
if this continues, the whole Gundam 00 season 1 is nth but crap.. vmad.gif
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First time watching new Gundam series toy advertisements? tongue.gif
Don't forget the nightmare called Seed Destiny. sweat.gif

QUOTE(300078 @ Jan 31 2008, 10:59 PM)
Yah those government are all hopeless now! They are doom to die since 1 gundam already god like! & means godlikex7 and tat means ...........

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Will we ever get to see the 00 Gundams getting pwned by those governments? And by that I mean seriously, totally wrecked like how OZ did to Deathscythe and Shenlong. No cheating reinforcements that drop down from the sky please.

QUOTE(RCrex @ Jan 31 2008, 11:33 PM)
gundam is common in the world

unlike UC acting like god
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Now go watch UC before you post again. Who's acting like god? Kira or Char?
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QUOTE(Aoshi_88 @ Feb 1 2008, 06:26 PM)
My papa better than yours papa.  nod.gif  nod.gif  nod.gif

I bring my papa fight your papa!

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My daddy's car is larger than yours.

No, my daddy's house is bigger than yours.

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QUOTE(jhcj @ Feb 1 2008, 08:03 PM)
Exactly! Different people have different opinions, and I dont mind if you dislike Gundam 00 and discuss about it in a mature manner. I'm just asking why oh why must there be comparions made?

If you think Seed had GODLIKE characters, then just say it and be done with it! If you think the Thrones are Bandai's excuse for milking more money from gunpla-ers, then just say it and be done with it! Why must there be an additional comment somehow linking it to the UC metaverse when CLEARLY they are both different and unique in their own ways? Not only does it bring out the fanboy in you, but obviously there will be hostilities exchanged when fanboys go up against each other. Why must this happen and everyone ends up forming camps and start flinging shit at each other?

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[edit] My post is directed at fanboys, not Virgil. Need to clarify in case Virgil goes "wth why me". laugh.gif
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I've always posted with facts and welcome any discussion, be it UC or AU as long as it's Gundam related.

I don't see any reason NOT to bring in UC characters, or even AUs like GW, GX etc for comparison with 00 as long as we support it with facts. It's like talking cars eg talking about Toyota and forbidding people to talk about various models of Toyota.

While I get your point about fanboyism, you should understand that which set of fans, traditional ones or newly CE/00 converts, that always post oneliners or your so called fanboyist posts. I don't mind people posting stuff like "I like (insert name)" but at least state the reason and some further elaboration.

Until new Gundam fans post this way, I don't think traditional fans would stop the bashing.

And you DO know that this will continue to happen as those "new" fans will post meaningless crap, so why bother?

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post Feb 2 2008, 12:16 AM

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QUOTE(jhcj @ Feb 1 2008, 11:30 PM)
Well yeah, I do admit that some of the posters like to post one liners, but I guess both sides have their own share of people like this. I suppose the best that the rest of us can do is to try our best not to provoke each other even more until it ends up like a flamefest.

I have absolutely no problems at all with the way you post. Now if only you can rub off some of you onto the others lol.

Btw, just to prove that a decent (well, almost lol) discussion IS possible without comparisons, take a look at a thread from /m/ (you probably need IE7 for this).
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I might be wrong, but it seems sometimes you do get worked up by the so called bashing of 00 because you do like that series.

We do have good 00 discussions by those who watch it, it's just that a lot of traditional UC fans can't accept it that's why the discussions don't expand into a big scale. Traditional fans do have more Gundam knowledge for lengthy discusssions because they truly appreciate the entire Gundam/UC universe, not that I'm boasting, but it's true in most forums.

To have a good 00 discussion, those here who are watching it must take the initiative to do so.
There are so much to talk about in that series, like the mecha designs, character development and background, storyline and plot, settings, or if anyone is interested, the entire cinematography and choreography of the anime.

I don't watch 00, so I ain't gonna start. Let's hope someone does.
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QUOTE(jhcj @ Feb 2 2008, 12:34 AM)
I did attempt to post constructive comments about 00, but seems like everytime I do, I dont get replies (lol), which is why threads like /m/ are nice to browse through. Oh how I wish the discussions could be like that of that attachment I gave earlier. T_T
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If irony was a girl, I'd kiss and marry her. Seriously.

OMFG by saying /m/ is a place for serious discussion is like saying George Bush and Osama are angels and deserve to become archangels in heaven. You haven't seen those real meaningless shit that's flooding /m/, have you?

As for the 00 bashing... if anyone can't take it please leave... I do like GW and it gets bashed a lot, but try me and I'll give you a whole page thesis on GW analysis till you can't retaliate.

Now do the same with 00 and it'll stop the bashers. No one, be it UC elitist or AU enthusiasts can refute a thoroughly analysed write up.
One liners? fanboyism posts? Feel the wrath.

QUOTE(wufei @ Feb 2 2008, 10:10 AM)
G00  EP 15 Discussion

I wonder why :-

1. No communication between Meister (dont tell me because of GN Particles)
2. Why all escape through different route.

It is like the director of the anime has no other reason to write a better story line. In order to bring down the 4 gundam...making all standalone and escape through different route makes them more vulnerable of kena attack and bring them down.

3. Why setsuna wont back up the fat gundam and let him go alone. Even lockon will look after allelujah. Why Setsuna not helping the 2 other gundam?
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Thank you dear wufei for attempting to start some decent discussion about 00. Those who are watching 00 please join in with constructive posts OK?
Anyone coming in with oneliners will be replied with bashing rclxm9.gif

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About the combining weapons of the Thrones, my guess is that it'll probably be something like the Buster's guns. Different configurations might result in different beams, maybe one with sniper like capability and the other might be a WMD like damage i.e. GX's satellite cannon.

If it combines into a gigantic 100m beam sword then I'll seriously LOL. sweat.gif

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Don't forget Matilda Cruz who pilots Kshatriya is also a purupurupurupurupuru clone !!

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post Feb 5 2008, 01:39 AM

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Look... no hands !!
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QUOTE(300078 @ Feb 5 2008, 09:04 AM)
Basically i just watch those other pilots! Graham, Russian bear, loli girl, and crazy Arab guy! They seem to be much more cooler, using lousy mecha but can match with Gundam!
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That's why grunts such as Norris, Lt Burning, Kelly, and even Apolly are much respected.

QUOTE(Aeon_Clock @ Feb 5 2008, 09:28 AM)
btw, I like the cockpit design on the Gundam Thrones. Different compared to Wing, GS, GSD so far. If I'm not mistaken...its similar to Gundam 0083 cockpits where the pilot can view 360 degrees isn't it?
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360 degree panoramic cockpits are pretty much standard equipment after 0083. Even grunts have them in Gundam Z. Of course, this is UC and not AD hehe...

Yet they are not perfect as shown in GZ when Kamille got the newtype hint from Sarah and shot the Gaplant from beneath it. Yeah, you can't see below your chair, right?

The "best" cockpit is still Zero System as it directly feeds information into the pilot's brain and even predicts the moves and outcomes of the enemy. That is, if you don't get corrupted with fear hence acting like a maniac like how Quatre did.

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QUOTE(wolfx @ Feb 5 2008, 10:58 AM)
Eh? From what I recall, not even the Zeta Gundam has a 360 degree view cockpit. You can't see behind you or below your feet.

In fact i don't remmeber any of the gundam shows have this.
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The Zeta has it, although it doesn't look like a sphere like the MKII or even the Hizacks. The MKII has the panoramic cockpit, the Zeta can't possibly have something more inferior.

http://mahq.net/mecha/gundam/z/msz-006.htm
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Model number: MSZ-006
Code name: Zeta Gundam
Unit type: prototype attack use transformable mobile suit
Manufacturer: Anaheim Electronics
Operator: AEUG (Anti-Earth Union Group)
First deployment: UC 0087
Accommodation: pilot only, in panoramic monitor/linear seat cockpit in torso
Dimensions: mobile suit mode: overall height 19.85 meters, head height 18.7 meters; waverider mode: overall length 24.32 meters, wingspan 18.61 meters
Weight: empty 28.7 metric tons; max gross 62.3 metric tons; mass ratio 1.70
Armor materials: gundarium alloy
Powerplant: Minovsky type ultracompact fusion reactor, output rated at 2020 kW
Propulsion: rocket thrusters: 5 x 12200 kg, 2 x 10600 kg, 4 x 7600 kg; vernier thrusters/apogee motors: 8
Performance: maximum thruster acceleration 1.81 G
Equipment and design features: sensors, range 14000 meters; bio-sensor system; birdlime launchers in hands
Fixed armaments: 2 x 60mm vulcan gun, fire-linked, 600 rounds per gun, mounted in head; 2 x 2-tube grenade launcher, 2 rounds per tube, mounted in forearms; 2 x beam saber, power rated at 0.65 MW, stored in recharge racks in hip armor, hand-carried in use, sabers double as fire-linked beam guns in waverider mode with power rated at 1.3 MW total for both
Optional fixed armaments: grenade launcher cartridge, 18+1 rounds, serves as extended ammunition magazine for grenade launcher; shield, mounted on left forearm
Optional hand armaments: (BOWA) XBR-M87A2 beam rifle, power rated at 5.7 MW, powered by replaceable e-pac, doubles as large beam saber, can be mounted on storage rack on back to use in waverider mode, 2 spare e-pacs stored in shield; hyper mega launcher, power rated at 8.3 MW, powered by replaceable e-pac, doubles as large beam saber


The blind spots are the places where the seat is blocking the view, i.e. beneath the pilot and the place where the seat is attached to the spherical cockpit. Apart from those spots mentioned above, virtually all directions are visible.


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QUOTE(Aeon_Clock @ Feb 5 2008, 09:59 AM)
err...yeah, wat you said tongue.gif
Zero System is from which series?
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Gundam W.

QUOTE(300078 @ Feb 5 2008, 10:19 AM)
in the end u scared urself becoz u are gonna get killed every single second! Still i think Newtype instinct is better just tat after u killed someone or too many dead ppl u also get freak out!

Earth Gravity Bound Human FTW!!! They are just too weak but they get to enjoy simple and happy life! Peace no War!
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From what I know, the Zero System predicts the enemies' intentions and portrays to the pilot about the consequences, hence forcing the pilot to take an action. Pilots who are not mentally strong enough will end up indulged in the fear of dying/losing and hence make rash decisions which often result in maniacal attacks or collateral damage. Heero and Miliardo were strong enough not to be influenced by the Zero System and hence were able to "predict" their enemies' attacks and hit them before they do.

QUOTE(wolfx @ Feb 6 2008, 02:31 AM)
Paronamic is not 360. You can call it wide-angle though.

You see straight, you see your left and right. But you can't see the top, below your legs and behind you. Even in GUndam ZZ the gundams still have the linear cockpit view mode so yeah i dun think they have the 360 view like Macross.

Links:
Zeta Gundam's Cockpit
http://www.mahq.net/Mecha/Gundam/z/lineart...006-cockpit.jpg

Psycho Gundam's Cockpit
http://www.mahq.net/mecha/gundam/z/lineart...009-cockpit.jpg

The Quin Mantha from ZZ, as you can see the cockpit design is more or less the same.
http://www.geocities.com/gundam_double_zeta/NZ-000.html

From teh cockpit lineart you can clearly see that the ceiling and floors as well as the back do not have screens.

Also in Gundam Zeta era mecha i realise there's the two projectors on both side of the pilot's heads. I think those things project the images onto the cockpit screen, the screen itself doesn't emit anything.
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The "360 degree" cockpit is not a full 360 view. NONE of the gundams have a true 360 degree view if we wish to be stoic in our definition of 360 degree. In fact, the spec sheet of all Gundams say they have a "linear" cockpit, even the GP03 which is supposed to have the first "panoramic" view uses the "linear cockpit" nomenclature.

Linear? Panoramic? It's just a name. whistling.gif

My bad for calling the panoramic cockpit a "360 degree panoramic cockpit" back in my earlier post... It's misguiding, I know. But I did mention the blindspot tongue.gif

Let's take a look at the MG MKII Titans manual, where Kamille is sitting in the cockpit. It proves that the top and bottom parts are visible, the only blocked area is the part where the handle of the chair extends out plus a small strip there. It's pretty much a full spherical view although not truly 360 degrees.
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Obviously you can see the top and bottom except the aforementioned blind spots.

Speaking of which, this reminds me of F91 where it's shown that the cockpit is 360 degrees visible apart from the parts where the chair is attached. In the movie it shows clearly that the monitors are arranged in a spherical manner, note the part where Seabook carries his injured dad behind his seat.
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The thing is, does Victory era suits have a panoramic cockpit? My memory's fuzzy now, but I think Victory's narrow cockpit is more similar to a fighter jet than the usual spherical pods shown in GZ and CCA.

Good discussion... let's find more technical stuff to talk about icon_idea.gif
Here's a Char tongue.gif
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=fV1sA8JMwRQ
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Casval? Artesia? Even Hayato? What are you guys doing in Korea? tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif
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Added on February 8, 2008, 2:16 pmMore Unicorn, Chapter 9 already.... Barnage just got captured by Full Frontal's forces and he's now a captive of Neo Zeon rclxm9.gif

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