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 Modern Malaysia house is a heat trap

Modern Malaysia house is a heat trap
 
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post Oct 21 2022, 08:51 PM

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QUOTE(Oltromen Ripot @ Oct 21 2022, 07:04 PM)
i install exhaust fan in kitchen. at least functional to temove trapped heat and odor from cooking (if not yet caught by hood), and to also move wind from front to rear.

not foolproof though as it depends on volume transferred.
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I install foldable glass door at kitchen area . Now no more such problem
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post Oct 21 2022, 09:06 PM

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QUOTE(sonark @ Oct 21 2022, 08:30 PM)
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post Oct 21 2022, 09:07 PM

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Can paint the roof white?
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post Oct 21 2022, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Oct 21 2022, 05:55 PM)
Local kid further study in country with 4 seasons. Comes back as an architect and designs house based on foreign designs. Ends up with house that is designed to withstand winter.

Old house below has lower temperature.
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When you say modern, what do you mean exactly?

And by the way, Malaysian architecture education has been around since before WW2. Although trained by British architects, these architects have been around in Malaysia, design building in Malaysia considering Malaysian climate.

We only began studying overseas in the late 70s, when the economy is better and people can afford studying abroad. By then, Malaysian architecture has already took its current form.

If you ask me, the issue about hot houses are multifaceted. One, it could be caused by architects not aware of local climates. But I have to tell you, even if you study 10 years overseas, you'll come back and MUST practice with local firms, where there will be architects with local tropical experiences.

Most of the time I blame developers. Not many developers are even trained in built environment. They got rich doing something else, then decided to venture into property development. Then they pay architects who would design the way they think appeals to the rakyat. And of course, rakyat being susceptible to advertisements, starts spending money on inappropriately designed houses.

And there's also the problem of kontraktor cuba buat kerja arkitek. This is very common, as home owners think that architects are just some glorified chef, and can save cost by NOT paying architects. So sekarang rumah kau panas, rasakan.
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QUOTE(Taikor.Taikun @ Oct 21 2022, 09:07 PM)
Can paint the roof white?
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Wont be as effective as installing insulation under the roof tiles.
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post Oct 21 2022, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Oct 21 2022, 09:15 PM)
Wont be as effective as installing insulation under the roof tiles.
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Cost must b very high
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post Oct 21 2022, 09:30 PM

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Heat trap true.

But if you keep your windows open now in the city area, expect all the dust and dirt to come in.

Air now not the same as 40 years ago.

Thst is why cold is better than heat.
It is easier to heat the air than cool them.
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post Oct 21 2022, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(Lanchio @ Oct 21 2022, 06:05 PM)
Some old single story has air well
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nearly all terrace house got air well,.. my house 50 years liao also got,.. no need to air cond the whole house,..

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post Oct 21 2022, 09:36 PM

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You dont have this problem if you stay in condo
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post Oct 21 2022, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(Taikor.Taikun @ Oct 21 2022, 09:26 PM)
Cost must b very high
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Not as high as continuous cooling bills for the next 20 years.
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Oct 21 2022, 05:55 PM)
Local kid further study in country with 4 seasons. Comes back as an architect and designs house based on foreign designs. Ends up with house that is designed to withstand winter.

Old house below has lower temperature.
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The house design you showed owes most of its origins to southern China smile.gif
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post Oct 21 2022, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Oct 21 2022, 09:15 PM)
When you say modern, what do you mean exactly?

And by the way, Malaysian architecture education has been around since before WW2. Although trained by British architects, these architects have been around in Malaysia, design building in Malaysia considering Malaysian climate.

We only began studying overseas in the late 70s, when the economy is better and people can afford studying abroad. By then, Malaysian architecture has already took its current form.

If you ask me, the issue about hot houses are multifaceted. One, it could be caused by architects not aware of local climates. But I have to tell you, even if you study 10 years overseas, you'll come back and MUST practice with local firms, where there will be architects with local tropical experiences.

Most of the time I blame developers. Not many developers are even trained in built environment. They got rich doing something else, then decided to venture into property development. Then they pay architects who would design the way they think appeals to the rakyat. And of course, rakyat being susceptible to advertisements, starts spending money on inappropriately designed houses.

And there's also the problem of kontraktor cuba buat kerja arkitek. This is very common, as home owners think that architects are just some glorified chef, and can save cost by NOT paying architects. So sekarang rumah kau panas, rasakan.
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Ventilation, air-well, fresh air changes all mentioned in UBBL / CIDB mah.
If building not up to code still can pass CCC means what?
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post Oct 21 2022, 09:55 PM

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Got one housing area in premium place in kalabg valley. Got heat trap .design failure .no air vent to channel hot air . The developer compesate by gave 3 econ fir each house. Cant ammend coz it related to many law and design that already sign up in snp
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Different time, different design.

Old houses used to have high ceiling and high windows for good ventilation. The problem is that it is difficult to clean the high ceiling and those high windows can be entry point for burglars.

Modern houses abandon this design and assume owner will put AC. Some new houses don't have ceiling fan point but come with AC points.


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QUOTE(Current Events guy @ Oct 21 2022, 06:03 PM)
Apa different old vs new house?

Must be the inside.

The outside looks the same.
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Designer house has lots of glasses that would turn sun ray into heat. Also western house design likes to trap air in house without air circulation out to increase amount of CO2 to heat up temperature. The right local oriented house would divert air into house and circulate out so that there won't be concentrated CO2.
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Install air con

Modern problems require modern solutions
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post Oct 21 2022, 10:58 PM

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Not only poorly engineered, but also poorly designed aesthetically. Featureless facades similar to the featureless faces of the designers and architects who design them.
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post Oct 21 2022, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(Smitten @ Oct 21 2022, 09:46 PM)
Ventilation, air-well, fresh air changes all mentioned in UBBL / CIDB mah.
If building not up to code still can pass CCC means what?
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It can be up to code but still insufficient. UBBL was not written based on the science we have today.
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