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paskal
post May 20 2021, 10:32 AM

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i've walked your path.

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i did a lot of the work myself, DIY.
since some of the implementation is quite unusual. contractor either say kenot do or quote exorbitant amount.

like 2 separate piping rainwater and treated pipewater to all the bathrooms.
5 type cabling (low voltage DC, high voltage DC, CAT5e network lines, single phase 240v and three phase 415v).
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wife's an architect.
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post May 20 2021, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(paskal @ May 20 2021, 10:32 AM)
i've walked your path.

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i did a lot of the work myself, DIY.
since some of the implementation is quite unusual. contractor either say kenot do or quote exorbitant amount.

like 2 separate piping rainwater and treated pipewater to all the bathrooms.
5 type cabling (low voltage DC, high voltage DC, CAT5e network lines, single phase 240v and three phase 415v).
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i'm an engineer by training.
phd in computer engineering.
wife's an architect.
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Nice looking house you got there
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post May 20 2021, 10:55 AM

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not logic la bro. 3 room only 1 toilet. if someone cirit birit. other mau kencing how? halaman rumah? if u insist in this design, please split the toilet to bathroom & toilet. at least got choice. just hope not whole house cirit birit la. laugh.gif

by this design i think u prioritize more on room quantity & its space. thus living room & open kitchen looks really compact. well, u win some u lose some.

if can extend ur budget a bit. i would suggest u make the house longer. master bedroom with its own toilet is a plus value for me. by extending the floor plan, u have more space to redesign the living room, kitchen & importantly the main toilet.

if the floor size is fixed, i would make the 2nd or both 2nd & 3rd room smaller to make more space.
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post May 20 2021, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(paskal @ May 20 2021, 10:32 AM)

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A very nice one bro!
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post May 20 2021, 11:50 AM

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post May 20 2021, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(H.K. Lee @ May 20 2021, 08:11 AM)
This is what i worry most. Are you an architect? how flat was your roof? let say if i pump the slope up to 1:15, coat with a cementitious waterproofing (ppl use this to coat their large fishtank), finish with elastomeric waterproofing, will it work? can you explain more about your previous experience?
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Avoid flat roof if you can.
1. It's a hassle to maintain
2. It'll leak in our weather. Not compatible with hot and heavy rain weather like in our tropical climate.
3. Higher chance it'll get clogged with dead leaves and flood on your roof.
4. It's more expensive to build compared to other roof
5. Its heavier and require stronger foundation, more cost
6. It's hotter, takes longer to cool down, higher heat retention, AC cost will be higher.
7. Smaller crawl space making it a lot more difficult to access if something goes wrong

Unless you have a good reason of doing a flat concrete roof, best to avoid it
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post May 20 2021, 12:01 PM

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TS mentioned the land was sloped. It may be well-worth your time to pop into wisma tanah dan ukur to look into the type of soil series in your site. And judicious use of cangkul and sandak to make several test pits on your land would be wise. It's quite common for layers of sandstone to be hidden by a thin layer of soil...and water seeping between the layers can cause said layers to shear off. I'm no construction engineer, but have had casual conversations with several piling contractors who worked in kk and sandakan.
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post May 20 2021, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(ahwai @ May 20 2021, 10:47 AM)
Nice looking house you got there
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Thanks. It's a small kampung house in a rural village somewhere

QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ May 20 2021, 11:47 AM)
A very nice one bro!
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Thanks.
Not as nice as your mansion tho
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post May 20 2021, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(paskal @ May 20 2021, 10:32 AM)
i've walked your path.

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i did a lot of the work myself, DIY.
since some of the implementation is quite unusual. contractor either say kenot do or quote exorbitant amount.

like 2 separate piping rainwater and treated pipewater to all the bathrooms.
5 type cabling (low voltage DC, high voltage DC, CAT5e network lines, single phase 240v and three phase 415v).
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i'm an engineer by training.
phd in computer engineering.
wife's an architect.
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Very nice bro! Mind sharing final cost? How far off were the contractor quotes?

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post May 20 2021, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(andyng38 @ May 20 2021, 12:01 PM)
TS mentioned the land was sloped. It may be well-worth your time to pop into wisma tanah dan ukur to look into the type of soil series in your site. And judicious use of cangkul and sandak to make several test pits on your land would be wise. It's quite common for layers of sandstone to be hidden by a thin layer of soil...and water seeping between the layers can cause said layers to shear off. I'm no construction engineer, but have had casual conversations with several piling contractors who worked in kk and sandakan.
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Or better get a soil test done at the site.
Last I was looking it's around rm2k to do
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post May 20 2021, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(paskal @ May 20 2021, 10:32 AM)
i've walked your path.

user posted image
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i did a lot of the work myself, DIY.
since some of the implementation is quite unusual. contractor either say kenot do or quote exorbitant amount.

like 2 separate piping rainwater and treated pipewater to all the bathrooms.
5 type cabling (low voltage DC, high voltage DC, CAT5e network lines, single phase 240v and three phase 415v).
user posted image

i'm an engineer by training.
phd in computer engineering.
wife's an architect.
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Impressive!!!

Parking btw...
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post May 20 2021, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(takr @ May 20 2021, 12:05 PM)
Very nice bro! Mind sharing final cost? How far off were the contractor quotes?
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spent about 400k-ish with all the toilet finishing, lights, fans, etc.

Some of the contractor quote is quite far off from my projection.
Since i'm quite familiar with material prices and frequently do small works myself, i could predict their rough profit.

like the cheapest i was quoted for electrical wiring (just the single phase and three phase) is RM25k
so i hired an untrained kampung kid to help me and did it myself.

used 5km of cables.
worth it.
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post May 20 2021, 12:31 PM

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wheelchair friendly la..mcm mana mahu angkat org tua lain kali?
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post May 20 2021, 01:35 PM

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If you're cheap, avoid designing a flat roof. Or there will be hell to pay down the road.
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post May 20 2021, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(paskal @ May 20 2021, 10:32 AM)
i've walked your path.

i did a lot of the work myself, DIY.
since some of the implementation is quite unusual. contractor either say kenot do or quote exorbitant amount.

like 2 separate piping rainwater and treated pipewater to all the bathrooms.
5 type cabling (low voltage DC, high voltage DC, CAT5e network lines, single phase 240v and three phase 415v).

i'm an engineer by training.
phd in computer engineering.
wife's an architect.

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My hero wub.gif
I also DIY most of the stuff in my apartment, am just an office girl but this is super cool! Props to u!
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post May 20 2021, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(paskal @ May 20 2021, 12:04 PM)

Not as nice as your mansion tho

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me setinggan only lah big boss. you must be mistaken me for Coffeedude's mansion. his garage is way bigger than my setinggan
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post May 20 2021, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(vamsufer @ May 20 2021, 09:05 AM)
nice design!

i building my kampung house also in inanam. i suggest use steel for all the structure like beam, roof, door frame etc etc. cheaper+ faster . then can save man days. also can prevent termite attack cos kampung area.

you also need to include septic tank and tiang electric if you current sesb tiang cannot reach the house.

and lastly, you outside area must abit lower then your main house. to prevent snake . they usually will move along the wall, so if you are same level,  they might go in. i got this advice while i was designing mine. never know it..haha
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Nice bro, did you apply for electricity? did you get approval before building it? it'll be nice if you can share all the processes. coz might risk being force to tear it down if the paperwork is not done properly. I cant make the ground level lower for the rightside of the house because it's retention wall, if i remove that i cant access the house with vehicle dy.

QUOTE(Richard @ May 20 2021, 09:13 AM)
Not architect, i have a chargeman/wireman license doing supervision.

It was actually the pan Pacific sutera hotel back in the day and the flat concrete roof was leaking into the ballroom even when they did waterproofing membrane and the waterproof paint..

Probably because that flat membrane keep busting steam due to the sun not sure what happened after i guess they finally fixed it.. metal roof wasn't really an option due to the aircon compressor what not up there or they have future plans no idea..
However technology has improved so it is still a good option..

Might consider a metal roof over the concrete if you have the budget..

I have tried waterproofing paint on my house side wall that was leaking rainwater and its been good for about 5 yrs now..
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I see, even hotel have headache with flat roof. I also repaired a flat concrete roof which is my carpark with the waterproof paint. works wonder, im just not sure how long it last, but my estimate is probably around 5 years. Flat roof sure is weaker than side wall though, because of direct sunlight everyday.

QUOTE(paskal @ May 20 2021, 10:32 AM)
i've walked your path.

user posted image
user posted image
user posted image
user posted image
user posted image
i did a lot of the work myself, DIY.
since some of the implementation is quite unusual. contractor either say kenot do or quote exorbitant amount.

like 2 separate piping rainwater and treated pipewater to all the bathrooms.
5 type cabling (low voltage DC, high voltage DC, CAT5e network lines, single phase 240v and three phase 415v).
user posted image

i'm an engineer by training.
phd in computer engineering.
wife's an architect.
user posted image
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Very nice house, with a superb view. Well done man. May i know how big is the size of the house? 400-500k is sure hell a lot of money to throw.

QUOTE(alvarez_ @ May 20 2021, 10:55 AM)
not logic la bro. 3 room only 1 toilet. if someone cirit birit. other mau kencing how? halaman rumah? if u insist in this design, please split the toilet to bathroom & toilet. at least got choice. just hope not whole house cirit birit la.  laugh.gif

by this design i think u prioritize more on room quantity & its space. thus living room & open kitchen looks really compact. well, u win some u lose some.

if can extend ur budget a bit. i would suggest u make the house longer. master bedroom with its own toilet is a plus value for me. by extending the floor plan, u have more space to redesign the living room, kitchen & importantly the main toilet.

if the floor size is fixed, i would make the 2nd or both 2nd & 3rd room smaller to make more space.
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Got a few reason:
1. That house (more like oversized cabin) is plan to have a couple to live in most of the time. I just need someone to stay there to look after the land
2. Plan to build an extension deck behind the house, with outdoor toilet. The land has an orchard, so a lot of sweating and outdoor activities.
3. Although it is conventional, i find that toilet in the room introduce too much moisture, it smells no matter what, especially for a small room like that, it feels like prison cell. need to do another waterproofing and plumbing just for that little luxury. Although i agree the 'resale' value might be affected a lot.


QUOTE(paskal @ May 20 2021, 12:00 PM)
Avoid flat roof if you can.
1. It's a hassle to maintain
2. It'll leak in our weather. Not compatible with hot and heavy rain weather like in our tropical climate.
3. Higher chance it'll get clogged with dead leaves and flood on your roof.
4. It's more expensive to build compared to other roof
5. Its heavier and require stronger foundation, more cost
6. It's hotter, takes longer to cool down, higher heat retention, AC cost will be higher.
7. Smaller crawl space making it a lot more difficult to access if something goes wrong

Unless you have a good reason of doing a flat concrete roof, best to avoid it
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My thought, is to have the roof with light plant. But raise it with some rack, like a walking garden on the roof (like the one in 1utama)

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That will probably reduce some direct UV exposure to the concrete and waterproof below it. There must be a way, people put a swimming pool on condo now, surely there's a way.

Look at this, these are sandwich panel with polystyrene, they are light weight. We do have supplier here in sabah. just not sure if anyone here experience building something with it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM9vZ2uuK5I...=BenleeConcepts




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post May 20 2021, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(insane.kill @ May 20 2021, 12:31 PM)
wheelchair friendly la..mcm mana mahu angkat org tua lain kali?
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I have other property to cater for that need. i needed it elevated to prevent moisture seeping up the house. The drainage is not very good with slope land like that, sometime when super heavy rain comes, the whole land is like waterfall. i need to have it elevated to prevent this drama. And improve the land little by little.

QUOTE(Cmyong88 @ May 20 2021, 01:35 PM)
If you're cheap, avoid designing a flat roof. Or there will be hell to pay down the road.
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Care to explain? your experience?
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post May 20 2021, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(paskal @ May 20 2021, 10:32 AM)
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When i saw this thread, then i remember your post but couldnt find it.

Beautiful house man. thumbup.gif

PS If i may ask

5 type cabling (low voltage DC, high voltage DC, CAT5e network lines, single phase 240v and three phase 415v).

Whats the DC cables for? Solar panel wiring?

Single phase is for generator?

This post has been edited by 9m2w: May 20 2021, 03:48 PM
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post May 20 2021, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(andyng38 @ May 20 2021, 12:01 PM)
TS mentioned the land was sloped. It may be well-worth your time to pop into wisma tanah dan ukur to look into the type of soil series in your site. And judicious use of cangkul and sandak to make several test pits on your land would be wise. It's quite common for layers of sandstone to be hidden by a thin layer of soil...and water seeping between the layers can cause said layers to shear off. I'm no construction engineer, but have had casual conversations with several piling contractors who worked in kk and sandakan.
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Im not sure if i should be too worry about it, because im building very light structure. that land has wooden shed with canvas on top. we used to parked heavy machineries there too, no trouble so far. the kampung below me has been there probably 30 years dy.

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