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post Oct 15 2022, 12:10 PM, updated 4y ago

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a&w use chicken/beef coney

auntie anne hot dog pretzel become savory pretzel and cheese sausage

and pandamart search dont even have hotdog but got sausage


why ikea can, other's cannot?

just curious


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post Oct 15 2022, 12:11 PM

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Thats the only place where confused ppl can finally have some dog
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post Oct 15 2022, 12:13 PM

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Because IKEA feeds the b40 Malays. Don't bite the hand that feeds you.
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dachshund or chihuahua?
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post Oct 15 2022, 12:14 PM

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Auntie Anne case was because they want to retain their Halal status of the products. There's news about it long time ago search around.
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because stupid people cakap hotdog tak halal because of dog.
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post Oct 15 2022, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(smallbug @ Oct 15 2022, 12:14 PM)
dachshund or chihuahua?
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QUOTE(leftycall9 @ Oct 15 2022, 12:14 PM)
Auntie Anne case was because they want to retain their Halal status of the products. There's news about it long time ago search around.
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post Oct 15 2022, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(likefunyouare @ Oct 15 2022, 12:10 PM)
a&w use chicken/beef coney

auntie anne hot dog pretzel become savory pretzel and cheese sausage

and pandamart search dont even have hotdog but got sausage
why ikea can, other's cannot?

just curious
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PeopleofPerlis PAS tak bawa isu ini ke Parliament sebelum ini?

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post Oct 15 2022, 12:25 PM

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Bigger question is..... Is it chicken or dog?
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QUOTE(leftycall9 @ Oct 15 2022, 12:14 PM)
Auntie Anne case was because they want to retain their Halal status of the products. There's news about it long time ago search around.
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So hot dogs from IKEA not halal? But why Sunkists still buy and rat?

PeopleofPerlis PAS tak bawa isu ini ke Parliament sebelum ini?
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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Oct 15 2022, 12:26 PM)
So hot dogs from IKEA not halal? But why Sunkists still buy and rat?

PeopleofPerlis PAS tak bawa isu ini ke Parliament sebelum ini?
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Rules and requirements of retaining Halal status were set by Jakim. For further info you can ask them. I'm just sharing news about Auntie Anne case.
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QUOTE(leftycall9 @ Oct 15 2022, 12:29 PM)
Rules and requirements of retaining Halal status were set by Jakim. For further info you can ask them. I'm just sharing news about Auntie Anne case.
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Alamak. Bagaimana sekarang?

PeopleofPerlis Kenapa PAS tak bawa isu ini ke Parliament sebelum ini?
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post Oct 15 2022, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(TrialGone @ Oct 15 2022, 12:25 PM)
Bigger question is..... Is it chicken or dog?
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Its a dog served at chicken temp
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QUOTE(cursetheroad01 @ Oct 15 2022, 12:31 PM)
Its a dog served at chicken temp
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Or could be new breed of dog and chicken called Dicken.
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post Oct 15 2022, 12:38 PM

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If not mistaken mmg all "hot dogs" need to change to "frankfurter/ sosej" in our country

Ikea sudah kaotim until Jakim "terlepas pandang" kot. whistling.gif

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Kesian these species .. fcuk up side down their life just becos of pig & dog
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QUOTE(rainy~days @ Oct 15 2022, 12:23 PM)
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How can you call it pork floss when its not pork
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QUOTE(likefunyouare @ Oct 15 2022, 12:10 PM)
a&w use chicken/beef coney

auntie anne hot dog pretzel become savory pretzel and cheese sausage

and pandamart search dont even have hotdog but got sausage
why ikea can, other's cannot?

just curious
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sosej ayam

It didnt say anjing panas

So there is nothing wrong

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post Oct 15 2022, 01:07 PM

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ikea cafeteria is not hala certified right?
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Call hot dog still full pax, good to see there are still many not easily konpius
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post Oct 15 2022, 01:55 PM

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Becos Ikea meatballs ada dadah. Many people addicted already don't dare to offend Ikea scared one day cannot eat meatballs.
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QUOTE(josh5671 @ Oct 15 2022, 12:21 PM)
i prefer dachshund .... chihuahua behaviors is real cibai whistling.gif
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Then you should eat the chis, don't touch the poor sausage dog
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post Oct 15 2022, 02:11 PM

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Maybe Ikea not interested in Jakim games and only interested in serving food at affordable price
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in b4 halal ikea lift for furniture

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post Oct 15 2022, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(likefunyouare @ Oct 15 2022, 12:10 PM)
a&w use chicken/beef coney

auntie anne hot dog pretzel become savory pretzel and cheese sausage

and pandamart search dont even have hotdog but got sausage
why ikea can, other's cannot?

just curious
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Always wondered why it was called hot dog, now see auntie annie pic finally understood, it does look like dog penis
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post Oct 15 2022, 02:19 PM

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Sausage also means dick. Not a good alternative to hotdog actually
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post Oct 15 2022, 02:20 PM

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Sausage is not hot dog
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post Oct 15 2022, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(rainy~days @ Oct 15 2022, 12:23 PM)
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Hahahah dubur vavi.



I think sahabat meleis all too imaginatif, I want to try that dubur vavi please on a stick and extra pedas.



Patutlah tak makan nasik goreng USA nasi goreng sotong sked dubur vavi shaped sotong. They gonna cut slices and sell higher price, I tell you. Later fitnah again this is pork skin perisa sotong.


Last last ban kennot eat sotong.
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post Oct 15 2022, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(potatoespotate @ Oct 15 2022, 01:58 PM)
Then you should eat the chis, don't touch the poor sausage dog
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doh.gif ya...


i take chis to eat...sausage dog for pet
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post Oct 15 2022, 03:32 PM

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post Oct 15 2022, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(Brotherjoe @ Oct 15 2022, 01:07 PM)
ikea cafeteria is not hala certified right?
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asking the real question here
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post Oct 15 2022, 04:47 PM

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cos they know exactly what they are selling

if it is, it is.

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QUOTE(likefunyouare @ Oct 15 2022, 12:10 PM)
a&w use chicken/beef coney

auntie anne hot dog pretzel become savory pretzel and cheese sausage

and pandamart search dont even have hotdog but got sausage
why ikea can, other's cannot?

just curious
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just so you know ikea restaraunt (different from individual products like their meatballs which do have Halal certification) in Malaysia does not apply for Jakim Halal. So they are not bound by their "recommendations" to not use "confusing" names, which are not confusing at all.
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Janji bahasa Malaysia di colum pertama sosej ayam dah solve all the confusion

Bahasa lain lain dah tak kisah lagi

I guess 🤔
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post Oct 15 2022, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(thewan @ Oct 15 2022, 04:50 PM)
just so you know ikea restaraunt (different from individual products like their meatballs which do have Halal certification) in Malaysia does not apply for Jakim Halal. So they are not bound by their "recommendations" to not use "confusing" names, which are not confusing at all.
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oh i think you are right

restoran non-halal not halal certified but some individual food products have halal certification

thanks



seems like ikea never take halal certification seriously even though so many muslim customers

even until now still doing things that is against the certification rules

seems like they dont intend to get certified

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premis-makanan-ikea-tak-halal-ini-kenyataan-jakim-berkenaan-status-halal-makanan-ikea

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devotees don't dare to kacau IKEA biz scared straining Malaysia-Sweden diplomacy

devotee dares to ban Oktoberfest still can keep good Deutscheland diplomacy is by supporting more Benz sales in malaysia

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post Oct 15 2022, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(Raddus @ Oct 15 2022, 12:52 PM)
How can you call it pork floss when its not pork
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BCH the brand itself already non halal laugh.gif

as their main business is selling bak gua

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QUOTE(leftycall9 @ Oct 15 2022, 12:14 PM)
Auntie Anne case was because they want to retain their Halal status of the products. There's news about it long time ago search around.
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So Ikea is not halal certified? And auntie anne had to change name for the halal status?
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their restaurant is halal by definition. it is just not certified halal. there is a difference between not certified, and non-halal.

ill give you another example, most hotel restaurants are not certified halal because of they serve wine for that "premium" hotel experience.

but their food and other beverages are halal by definition and which is why everyone goes there, muslims included.

this doesn't mean their restaurant is non-halal. it is just not certified by a authoritative body.


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QUOTE(Purpleheaven @ Oct 15 2022, 05:04 PM)
So Ikea is not halal certified? And auntie anne had to change name for the halal status?
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short answer: yes

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QUOTE(thewan @ Oct 15 2022, 05:05 PM)
their restaurant is halal by definition. it is just not certified halal. there is a difference between not certified, and non-halal.

ill give you another example, most hotel restaurants are not certified halal because of they serve wine for that "premium" hotel experience.

but their food and other beverages are halal by definition and which is why everyone goes there, muslims included.

this doesn't mean their restaurant is non-halal. it is just not certified by a authoritative body.
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you are right

my mistake up there

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because they use real dog. duh.
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QUOTE(thewan @ Oct 15 2022, 05:05 PM)
their restaurant is halal by definition. it is just not certified halal. there is a difference between not certified, and non-halal.

ill give you another example, most hotel restaurants are not certified halal because of they serve wine for that "premium" hotel experience.

but their food and other beverages are halal by definition and which is why everyone goes there, muslims included.

this doesn't mean their restaurant is non-halal. it is just not certified by a authoritative body.
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..... Oh no. This gonna konfius them. No wonder the not halal lift become hot topic.
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QUOTE(rainy~days @ Oct 15 2022, 12:23 PM)
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Brand name already not halal lagi confuse for what?

BCH is popular among tourists from SG lor.
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QUOTE(Purpleheaven @ Oct 15 2022, 05:04 PM)
So Ikea is not halal certified? And auntie anne had to change name for the halal status?
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Have IKEA acquired Halal status from Jakim like Auntie Anne did?
They haven't AFAIK so they're free to label products on their food premise as they wish.

Auntie Anne is different case they did acquire it. They complied to Jakim requirements for their Halal status that is to change the name of the hotdog menu.
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Big business can demand gomen for almost anything.

Ikea is huge worldwide. Any country would love to have them open shop and hire many B40s. Plus, they pay higher taxes too.

With such credentials, they of course can demand gomen for some benefits. Otherwise, they will move the business elsewhere and unemployment rate will shoot up.
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Malaysia muslim who are very particular with halal certification on the food they take, will have problem traveling oversea, dont be surprize to see them eating bread or eating maggi mee that they brought from Malaysia.

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Bila pulak ade instructions barring use of hot dog???
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Bila pulak ade instructions barring use of hot dog???
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-37700495

Food outlets selling hot dogs in Malaysia have been asked to rename their products or risk being refused halal certification.

The Malaysian Islamic Development Department, a religious government body, said it adopted the ruling after complaints from Muslim tourists.

Director Sirajuddin Suhaimee said the name might cause "confusion".

"In Islam, dogs are considered unclean and the name cannot be related to halal certification," he said.

Malaysian halal food guidelines say "halal food and halal artificial flavour shall not be named or synonymously named after non-halal products such as ham, bak kut teh, bacon, beer, rum and others that might create confusion," local media said.

Muslim-majority Malaysia practises a moderate form of Islam but conservative attitudes are on the rise.


'Pretzel Sausage'
On Monday, popular pretzel store franchise Auntie Anne's was refused halal certification unless it renamed its "Pretzel Dog". Mr Suhaimee said it was "more appropriate" to call it a "Pretzel Sausage".

Pretzel Dogs on display in Kuala Lumpur
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Pretzel chain Auntie Anne's was refused halal certification unless it renamed its 'Pretzel Dogs'
A representative of the US chain described it as a "minor issue" and said the firm was fine with changing the name on the menu.

'Hot dog is hot dog lah'
Malaysian Tourism and Culture Minister Nazri Aziz slammed the ruling, calling it "stupid and backward".

"Hot dog is hot dog lah. Even in Malay it's called hot dog - it's been around for so many years. I'm a Muslim and I'm not offended," he told reporters, adding that there was no reason for the religious body to take offence at the word.

"It comes from the English language. Please do not make us seem stupid and backward."

The ruling has also garnered ridicule and stirred debate among Malaysians on social media.

"It's just a name, what does it have to do with whether it's halal or not? Muslims should be more concerned with ingredients and the way food is prepared," wrote Eeman Yusof on Facebook.

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"You can always count on the authorities to make us look stupid," said another Malaysian Matt Razal.

Another Facebook user said: "Pet shops please rename your dogs as sausages."

"It is complications like this that make our country move backwards," commented YL Chew.

Activist and columnist Marina Mahathir, the daughter of former Malaysian leader Mahathir Mohamad, criticised the request by the Department of Islamic Development - also known as Jakim.

"Oh we poor easily confused Muslims who have never heard of hot dogs before and who will have no choice but to buy one if one was on the menu," she said in a Facebook post that was shared close to 2,000 times.

Malaysia often prides itself on being a moderate Muslim nation, which allows other religions freedom of worship.

In recent years, there has been greater emphasis on Islamic codes of conduct.
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Malaysia muslim who are very particular with halal certification on the food they take, will have problem traveling oversea, dont be surprize to see them eating bread or eating maggi mee that they brought from Malaysia.
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that is their personal belief and practice

i have no problem with it and respect that


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b'cos ptrezel kena viral by islamic karen,.. complaint liao,.. so had to conform,..
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QUOTE(TrialGone @ Oct 15 2022, 12:25 PM)
Bigger question is..... Is it chicken or dog?
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chicken or dog, still lose to this...

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Weird, I thought they call it anjing panas.

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QUOTE(brkli @ Oct 15 2022, 05:57 PM)
chicken or dog, still lose to this...

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QUOTE(brkli @ Oct 15 2022, 05:57 PM)
chicken or dog, still lose to this...

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That's quite cheap for younglings.
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QUOTE(TrialGone @ Oct 15 2022, 05:59 PM)
That's quite cheap for younglings.
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I mean.....its on the menu, why not?
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Jakun rules that's what
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QUOTE(josh5671 @ Oct 15 2022, 04:21 AM)
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All hanjing tibai except for Golden Retribur.

That not tibai, that one is stoopid.
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QUOTE(brkli @ Oct 15 2022, 09:57 AM)
chicken or dog, still lose to this...

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at least add a "Untuk" in between la. Now meaning all changed.

Just like once when I go some Chinese restaurant with angmoh.

Laugh like hell looking at the item "Husband and Wife sliced together." or Fu-Chi-Fei-Pian, a cold dish made from beef and their stomach.
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QUOTE(TrialGone @ Oct 15 2022, 05:59 PM)
That's quite cheap for younglings.
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The translations mean the meatball made out of children......oooo wai....
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at least add a "Untuk" in between la. Now meaning all changed.

Just like once when I go some Chinese restaurant with angmoh.

Laugh like hell looking at the item "Husband and Wife sliced together." or Fu-Chi-Fei-Pian, a cold dish made from beef and their stomach.
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Like Nasi Goreng Cina. You won't find cina in that flied lice.

By right it is Nasi Goreng ala Cina. whistling.gif inb4 kenot use ala....oooo different ala
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QUOTE(kcchong2000 @ Oct 15 2022, 10:22 AM)
Like Nasi Goreng Cina. You won't find cina in that flied lice.

By right it is Nasi Goreng ala Cina. whistling.gif inb4 kenot use ala....oooo different ala
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Here in UK menu, at least in my takeaway

Hongkong Style Sweet and Sour Pork (NO provide Chicken or prawn option as that pure stupidity)

Singapore Special Fried Vermicelli

Malaysian Exquisite Beef Curry / Chicken Curry (Legend menu. When got a Malaysian, its always linked to Nashee Remaks. Sometimes there's a demand, and I'll take my XO sambal before charging them like 15,99 for a curry nashee remaks)

Siamese Spicy Seafood Tomyam. (Trust me, they know thai, they dunno siam. Its like they drink coke before but no isap before)

Sichuan Steam Fish (this one if straight google translate will become Water Cooked Fish aka Shui-Zu-Yu. BTW, angmoh always wonders if Szechuan and Sichuan actually different. At least in their dumbo head, Sichuan is in China, and Szechuan is in America. Thanks to canto translation)

If Malaysian my menu, its gonna be

Babi masak sos Masam Manis jenis hong kong / Beehoon Goreng Singapura / Kari Daging Malaysia / Tomyam Thailand Dengan Laut / Ikan Kukus Gempar bumi.
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IKEA sudah beli kamus negara....

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Mudah konfius
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This pork floss what issue? No confusion right?
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QUOTE(TrialGone @ Oct 15 2022, 06:01 PM)
I mean.....its on the menu, why not?
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I think the daging anak anak kot... Like wordplay
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I think the daging anak anak kot... Like wordplay
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Yum.
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chicken or dog, still lose to this...

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https://www.yadim.com.my/v2/jakim-tidak-ber...gunaan-hot-dog/

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Palsu.

The fact that Ikea stil use Hot Dog in their menu, further confirma, that there is no such instructions from the authority.

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IKEA already kawtim with JAKIM after the harom frankfurters issue last time.

Remember they "samak" the whole kitchen? It was a really big issue back then.
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QUOTE(accitzone @ Oct 15 2022, 08:37 PM)
https://www.yadim.com.my/v2/jakim-tidak-ber...gunaan-hot-dog/

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Palsu.

The fact that Ikea stil use Hot Dog in their menu, further confirma, that there is no such instructions from the authority.
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Have IKEA acquired Halal status from Jakim like Auntie Anne did?
They haven't AFAIK so they're free to label products on their food premise as they wish.

Auntie Anne is different case they did acquire it. They complied to Jakim requirements for their Halal status that is to change the name of the hotdog menu.
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I see. Just clarifying.

So, Jakim stated that one of the requirements for the food to be halal is for the name not to have a dog in it, even if its a very common food name?
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tak masuk akal.

kalau u mudah keliru, u pegi sekolah belajar baik baik, harap lain kali datangnya situasi sebegini, anda tak mudah keliru.

ini analogy macam kata, u dapat soalan matematik yang amat mengeliru, lepastu u komplain kat cikgu kata soalan ini keliru, lepastu sebab u hari pertama lahir sampai sekarang, sentiasa ada tongkat, semua orang dapat soalan keliru, u yang special dapat soalan yang kurang mengeliru?

jangan jadi sohai, dunia ini bukan berputar di sekeliling anda, ada sekolah tu belajar baik baik.
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QUOTE(Purpleheaven @ Oct 16 2022, 02:42 AM)
I see. Just clarifying.

So, Jakim stated that one of the requirements for the food to be halal is for the name not to have a dog in it, even if its a very common food name?
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Close. But controversial arises because of Dr.Sirajuddin Suhaimee U-turn with his statement about the 'dog' name usage.
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Auntie Anne's confirms ‘pretzel dog’ now ‘pretzel sausage’ to satisfy halal cert

By MELATI A. JALIL
Monday, 28 Nov 2016 3:48 PM MYT
KUALA LUMPUR, Nov 28 ― The local chapter of US pretzel chain Auntie Anne's confirmed today that it has changed the name of its “pretzel dog” to “pretzel sausage”, after it was reported that they would be denied halal certification if they refused to do so.

The company's executive Farhatul Kamilah Mohamed Sazali said the name was changed to meet the requirements set by the country's halal authorities.

“We changed already to ‘pretzel sausage’ to comply with Malaysia's halal certification requirements,” she told Malay Mail Online when contacted today.

On October 31, the company had posted a statement on its Facebook page, saying that it would fulfil all the requirements towards obtaining halal certification in the country.

“With the recent news circulating on our halal status, we would like to assure our loyal customers and friends that all our ingredients are purchased from Jakim certified halal suppliers,” the brand said, referring to the Malaysian Islamic Development Department.

Jakim previously denied that it had rejected Auntie Anne's application for halal status due to the presence of the word “dog” in its menu, and had blamed media for the public furore.

Its halal division director Dr Sirajuddin Suhaimee said the chain’s application for halal certification had failed due to reasons such as incomplete paperwork.

Previously, Sirajuddin had told the media that “In Islam, dogs are considered unclean and the name cannot be related to halal certification” but later insisted his remark was in general and not specific to the Auntie Anne’s chain.

Media outlets reported Sirajuddin’s remarks about the unsuitability of the term “dogs” this week, along with the department’s guidelines against halal food items being similar in name to haram products such as beer, bacon and ham, among others.

The issue surfaced after an executive with US pretzel chain Auntie Anne’s revealed that their application for halal certification had failed due to, among others, concerns over the “pretzel dogs” in their menu.

Muslim lawmakers from both sides of the political divide have also expressed their disagreement with Jakim’s decision.

On the heels of the Auntie Anne’s controversy, non-halal pork burger chain Ninja Joe was probed by state religious authorities for allegedly confusing Muslims with its “P. Ramly” homage burger.
https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/201...al-cert/1260169

Previous statement by Auntie Anne's executive.
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3) Nama menu ‘Pretzel Dog’ haruslah ditukar kepada nama yang lebih sesuai. Saya telah mencadangkan beberapa nama baru dan masih menunggu keputusan mesyuarat panel dari pihak JAKIM. Setelah kami mendapat keputusannya, kami harus menukar kesemua menuboard sebelum proceed kepada permohonan baru.
https://beautifulnara.com/auntie-annes-belu...awai-eksekutif/

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4085235/all
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Nathan's famous also use the word hotdog. And, they have Jakim halal seal, just like IKEA
https://www.nathansfamous.com.my/menu/hotdogs/
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Malaysia muslim who are very particular with halal certification on the food they take, will have problem traveling oversea, dont be surprize to see them eating bread or eating maggi mee that they brought from Malaysia.
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It just takes a few days for them to adjust and accept that a restaurant can serve halal food, and also have a full bar and be proudly sponsored by Jägermeister, or learn the concept of vegetarian food.
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im a muslim but a bit confuse. If i go to mekah i can still see shop still display hotdog in their menu and not sausage.
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QUOTE(Donphatz @ Oct 16 2022, 05:49 AM)
im a muslim but a bit confuse. If i go to mekah i can still see shop still display hotdog in their menu and not sausage.
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I more konfius when people use Anak Dara and Janda.

Imagine telling someone that didn't know...

Eh, aku gi makan Anak Dara skrg, lepas tu malam gi makan Janda.
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QUOTE(Donphatz @ Oct 16 2022, 05:49 AM)
im a muslim but a bit confuse. If i go to mekah i can still see shop still display hotdog in their menu and not sausage.
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Yup, I stayed in Dubai for business. Hotel accommodation was arranged by the Arab boss who came in early to have breakfast with us at the hotel buffet restaurant to our surprise.
What shocked us was he eating beside us without any issues when we are so uncomfortable eat real pork bacon.
He noticed our uneasiness but he explained as long as he no eat pork everything else is ok!
After all most important is one's believe, high level of imam, ibadat & ilmu.

Guess Malaysia have too many Holier-than-thou hipocrites? hmm.gif
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Ikea hotdog milik siapa? If ban lettew those sunkists back from uk cannot taste omputeh food coz outside price mcm jahaham
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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Oct 15 2022, 12:24 PM)
PeopleofPerlis PAS tak bawa isu ini ke Parliament sebelum ini?
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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Oct 15 2022, 12:26 PM)
So hot dogs from IKEA not halal? But why Sunkists still buy and rat?

PeopleofPerlis PAS tak bawa isu ini ke Parliament sebelum ini?
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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Oct 15 2022, 12:29 PM)
Alamak. Bagaimana sekarang?

PeopleofPerlis Kenapa PAS tak bawa isu ini ke Parliament sebelum ini?
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Aye Aye aye you also discovered this Ah PoP is PAS extremist eh?
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Meanwhile in UAE, pork is served in buffets, just that it is tucked in another corner and they give you another set of cutlery for you to consume your food in the common dining area

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Bcoz Sunkist approved
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Jangan tanya soalan susah
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Negara macsm mane maju kalau asyik buang masa atas perkara kacang putih
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ikea ada sijil halal?
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i prefer dachshund .... chihuahua behaviors is real cibai whistling.gif
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Agree

And mini pinchers too.


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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Oct 15 2022, 12:26 PM)
So hot dogs from IKEA not halal? But why Sunkists still buy and rat?

PeopleofPerlis PAS tak bawa isu ini ke Parliament sebelum ini?
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Selective

Same goes to smoking and vaping.
Anyone tell me this is halal, I'll go run around naked in my house.


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https://www.malaysiakini.com/news/361536

Hotdog: Perlu tukar nama atau tidak?
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QUOTE(United Rulez @ Oct 15 2022, 12:38 PM)
If not mistaken mmg all "hot dogs" need to change to "frankfurter/ sosej" in our country

Ikea sudah kaotim until Jakim "terlepas pandang" kot.  whistling.gif
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Same goes to root beer.

What a joke.


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QUOTE(brkli @ Oct 15 2022, 05:57 PM)
chicken or dog, still lose to this...

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😨😨😨😨😨
😂😂😂😂😂
💪💪💪💪💪

Oh my goodness, cannot imagine how many young boys are balless now.

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QUOTE(PATAR @ Oct 16 2022, 04:40 AM)
Nathan's famous also use the word hotdog. And, they have Jakim halal seal, just like IKEA
https://www.nathansfamous.com.my/menu/hotdogs/
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Thank you

QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Oct 16 2022, 09:16 AM)
Same goes to root beer.

What a joke.
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kena so many lipots

from what i understand now

hotdog is okay because name is stick together

but name with dog as seperated word is not okay, right?

but still....

root beer also cannot, maybe rootbeer can

what else cannot?


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QUOTE(leftycall9 @ Oct 16 2022, 03:10 AM)
Close. But controversial arises because of Dr.Sirajuddin Suhaimee U-turn with his statement about the 'dog' name usage.

Previous statement by Auntie Anne's executive.

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4085235/all
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Well, i guess we'll never know whats the real reason.

But this really is a recurring problem here, people in high positions making statements without much thought or verification. And this leaves alot to our interpretation.
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QUOTE(likefunyouare @ Oct 16 2022, 09:35 AM)
Thank you
kena so many lipots

from what i understand now

hotdog is okay because name is stick together

but name with dog as seperated word is not okay, right?

but still....

root beer also cannot, maybe rootbeer can

what else cannot?
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I'm quite sure I have seen the spelling rut bir somewhere. Everyone knows what it is.

 

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