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gyver
post Oct 15 2022, 08:50 PM

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IKEA already kawtim with JAKIM after the harom frankfurters issue last time.

Remember they "samak" the whole kitchen? It was a really big issue back then.
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post Oct 15 2022, 08:52 PM

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QUOTE(accitzone @ Oct 15 2022, 08:37 PM)
https://www.yadim.com.my/v2/jakim-tidak-ber...gunaan-hot-dog/

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Palsu.

The fact that Ikea stil use Hot Dog in their menu, further confirma, that there is no such instructions from the authority.
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post Oct 16 2022, 02:42 AM

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QUOTE(leftycall9 @ Oct 15 2022, 05:20 PM)
Have IKEA acquired Halal status from Jakim like Auntie Anne did?
They haven't AFAIK so they're free to label products on their food premise as they wish.

Auntie Anne is different case they did acquire it. They complied to Jakim requirements for their Halal status that is to change the name of the hotdog menu.
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I see. Just clarifying.

So, Jakim stated that one of the requirements for the food to be halal is for the name not to have a dog in it, even if its a very common food name?
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post Oct 16 2022, 02:54 AM

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tak masuk akal.

kalau u mudah keliru, u pegi sekolah belajar baik baik, harap lain kali datangnya situasi sebegini, anda tak mudah keliru.

ini analogy macam kata, u dapat soalan matematik yang amat mengeliru, lepastu u komplain kat cikgu kata soalan ini keliru, lepastu sebab u hari pertama lahir sampai sekarang, sentiasa ada tongkat, semua orang dapat soalan keliru, u yang special dapat soalan yang kurang mengeliru?

jangan jadi sohai, dunia ini bukan berputar di sekeliling anda, ada sekolah tu belajar baik baik.
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post Oct 16 2022, 03:10 AM

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QUOTE(Purpleheaven @ Oct 16 2022, 02:42 AM)
I see. Just clarifying.

So, Jakim stated that one of the requirements for the food to be halal is for the name not to have a dog in it, even if its a very common food name?
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Close. But controversial arises because of Dr.Sirajuddin Suhaimee U-turn with his statement about the 'dog' name usage.
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Auntie Anne's confirms ‘pretzel dog’ now ‘pretzel sausage’ to satisfy halal cert

By MELATI A. JALIL
Monday, 28 Nov 2016 3:48 PM MYT
KUALA LUMPUR, Nov 28 ― The local chapter of US pretzel chain Auntie Anne's confirmed today that it has changed the name of its “pretzel dog” to “pretzel sausage”, after it was reported that they would be denied halal certification if they refused to do so.

The company's executive Farhatul Kamilah Mohamed Sazali said the name was changed to meet the requirements set by the country's halal authorities.

“We changed already to ‘pretzel sausage’ to comply with Malaysia's halal certification requirements,” she told Malay Mail Online when contacted today.

On October 31, the company had posted a statement on its Facebook page, saying that it would fulfil all the requirements towards obtaining halal certification in the country.

“With the recent news circulating on our halal status, we would like to assure our loyal customers and friends that all our ingredients are purchased from Jakim certified halal suppliers,” the brand said, referring to the Malaysian Islamic Development Department.

Jakim previously denied that it had rejected Auntie Anne's application for halal status due to the presence of the word “dog” in its menu, and had blamed media for the public furore.

Its halal division director Dr Sirajuddin Suhaimee said the chain’s application for halal certification had failed due to reasons such as incomplete paperwork.

Previously, Sirajuddin had told the media that “In Islam, dogs are considered unclean and the name cannot be related to halal certification” but later insisted his remark was in general and not specific to the Auntie Anne’s chain.

Media outlets reported Sirajuddin’s remarks about the unsuitability of the term “dogs” this week, along with the department’s guidelines against halal food items being similar in name to haram products such as beer, bacon and ham, among others.

The issue surfaced after an executive with US pretzel chain Auntie Anne’s revealed that their application for halal certification had failed due to, among others, concerns over the “pretzel dogs” in their menu.

Muslim lawmakers from both sides of the political divide have also expressed their disagreement with Jakim’s decision.

On the heels of the Auntie Anne’s controversy, non-halal pork burger chain Ninja Joe was probed by state religious authorities for allegedly confusing Muslims with its “P. Ramly” homage burger.
https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/201...al-cert/1260169

Previous statement by Auntie Anne's executive.
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3) Nama menu ‘Pretzel Dog’ haruslah ditukar kepada nama yang lebih sesuai. Saya telah mencadangkan beberapa nama baru dan masih menunggu keputusan mesyuarat panel dari pihak JAKIM. Setelah kami mendapat keputusannya, kami harus menukar kesemua menuboard sebelum proceed kepada permohonan baru.
https://beautifulnara.com/auntie-annes-belu...awai-eksekutif/

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4085235/all
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post Oct 16 2022, 04:40 AM

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Nathan's famous also use the word hotdog. And, they have Jakim halal seal, just like IKEA
https://www.nathansfamous.com.my/menu/hotdogs/
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QUOTE(Brotherjoe @ Oct 15 2022, 05:24 PM)
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Malaysia muslim who are very particular with halal certification on the food they take, will have problem traveling oversea, dont be surprize to see them eating bread or eating maggi mee that they brought from Malaysia.
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It just takes a few days for them to adjust and accept that a restaurant can serve halal food, and also have a full bar and be proudly sponsored by Jägermeister, or learn the concept of vegetarian food.
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post Oct 16 2022, 05:49 AM

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im a muslim but a bit confuse. If i go to mekah i can still see shop still display hotdog in their menu and not sausage.
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QUOTE(Donphatz @ Oct 16 2022, 05:49 AM)
im a muslim but a bit confuse. If i go to mekah i can still see shop still display hotdog in their menu and not sausage.
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I more konfius when people use Anak Dara and Janda.

Imagine telling someone that didn't know...

Eh, aku gi makan Anak Dara skrg, lepas tu malam gi makan Janda.
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QUOTE(Donphatz @ Oct 16 2022, 05:49 AM)
im a muslim but a bit confuse. If i go to mekah i can still see shop still display hotdog in their menu and not sausage.
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Yup, I stayed in Dubai for business. Hotel accommodation was arranged by the Arab boss who came in early to have breakfast with us at the hotel buffet restaurant to our surprise.
What shocked us was he eating beside us without any issues when we are so uncomfortable eat real pork bacon.
He noticed our uneasiness but he explained as long as he no eat pork everything else is ok!
After all most important is one's believe, high level of imam, ibadat & ilmu.

Guess Malaysia have too many Holier-than-thou hipocrites? hmm.gif
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post Oct 16 2022, 07:16 AM

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Ikea hotdog milik siapa? If ban lettew those sunkists back from uk cannot taste omputeh food coz outside price mcm jahaham
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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Oct 15 2022, 12:24 PM)
PeopleofPerlis PAS tak bawa isu ini ke Parliament sebelum ini?
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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Oct 15 2022, 12:26 PM)
So hot dogs from IKEA not halal? But why Sunkists still buy and rat?

PeopleofPerlis PAS tak bawa isu ini ke Parliament sebelum ini?
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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Oct 15 2022, 12:29 PM)
Alamak. Bagaimana sekarang?

PeopleofPerlis Kenapa PAS tak bawa isu ini ke Parliament sebelum ini?
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Aye Aye aye you also discovered this Ah PoP is PAS extremist eh?
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post Oct 16 2022, 08:42 AM

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Meanwhile in UAE, pork is served in buffets, just that it is tucked in another corner and they give you another set of cutlery for you to consume your food in the common dining area

This post has been edited by rickyro: Oct 16 2022, 08:43 AM
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Bcoz Sunkist approved
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post Oct 16 2022, 08:56 AM

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Jangan tanya soalan susah
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post Oct 16 2022, 08:58 AM

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Negara macsm mane maju kalau asyik buang masa atas perkara kacang putih
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post Oct 16 2022, 09:01 AM

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ikea ada sijil halal?
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post Oct 16 2022, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(josh5671 @ Oct 15 2022, 12:21 PM)
i prefer dachshund .... chihuahua behaviors is real cibai whistling.gif
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Agree

And mini pinchers too.


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post Oct 16 2022, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Oct 15 2022, 12:26 PM)
So hot dogs from IKEA not halal? But why Sunkists still buy and rat?

PeopleofPerlis PAS tak bawa isu ini ke Parliament sebelum ini?
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Selective

Same goes to smoking and vaping.
Anyone tell me this is halal, I'll go run around naked in my house.


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https://www.malaysiakini.com/news/361536

Hotdog: Perlu tukar nama atau tidak?

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