Janji bahasa Malaysia di colum pertama sosej ayam dah solve all the confusion
Bahasa lain lain dah tak kisah lagi
I guess 🤔
why ikea can use hot dog but others kenot?
why ikea can use hot dog but others kenot?
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Oct 15 2022, 04:58 PM
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Janji bahasa Malaysia di colum pertama sosej ayam dah solve all the confusion
Bahasa lain lain dah tak kisah lagi I guess 🤔 |
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Oct 15 2022, 04:59 PM
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QUOTE(thewan @ Oct 15 2022, 04:50 PM) just so you know ikea restaraunt (different from individual products like their meatballs which do have Halal certification) in Malaysia does not apply for Jakim Halal. So they are not bound by their "recommendations" to not use "confusing" names, which are not confusing at all. oh i think you are rightrestoran thanks seems like ikea never take halal certification seriously even though so many muslim customers even until now still doing things that is against the certification rules seems like they dont intend to get certified ![]() This post has been edited by likefunyouare: Oct 15 2022, 05:09 PM |
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Oct 15 2022, 04:59 PM
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premis-makanan-ikea-tak-halal-ini-kenyataan-jakim-berkenaan-status-halal-makanan-ikea
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Oct 15 2022, 05:02 PM
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devotees don't dare to kacau IKEA biz scared straining Malaysia-Sweden diplomacy
devotee dares to ban Oktoberfest still can keep good Deutscheland diplomacy is by supporting more Benz sales in malaysia This post has been edited by sportivo: Oct 15 2022, 05:10 PM |
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Oct 15 2022, 05:03 PM
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Oct 15 2022, 05:04 PM
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Oct 15 2022, 05:05 PM
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their restaurant is halal by definition. it is just not certified halal. there is a difference between not certified, and non-halal.
ill give you another example, most hotel restaurants are not certified halal because of they serve wine for that "premium" hotel experience. but their food and other beverages are halal by definition and which is why everyone goes there, muslims included. this doesn't mean their restaurant is non-halal. it is just not certified by a authoritative body. |
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Oct 15 2022, 05:06 PM
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Oct 15 2022, 05:09 PM
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QUOTE(thewan @ Oct 15 2022, 05:05 PM) their restaurant is halal by definition. it is just not certified halal. there is a difference between not certified, and non-halal. you are right ill give you another example, most hotel restaurants are not certified halal because of they serve wine for that "premium" hotel experience. but their food and other beverages are halal by definition and which is why everyone goes there, muslims included. this doesn't mean their restaurant is non-halal. it is just not certified by a authoritative body. my mistake up there |
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Oct 15 2022, 05:11 PM
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because they use real dog. duh.
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Oct 15 2022, 05:11 PM
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QUOTE(thewan @ Oct 15 2022, 05:05 PM) their restaurant is halal by definition. it is just not certified halal. there is a difference between not certified, and non-halal. ..... Oh no. This gonna konfius them. No wonder the not halal lift become hot topic.ill give you another example, most hotel restaurants are not certified halal because of they serve wine for that "premium" hotel experience. but their food and other beverages are halal by definition and which is why everyone goes there, muslims included. this doesn't mean their restaurant is non-halal. it is just not certified by a authoritative body. |
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Oct 15 2022, 05:16 PM
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Oct 15 2022, 05:18 PM
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Ikea: you dont cheebye, i tarik baru tau
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Oct 15 2022, 05:20 PM
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QUOTE(Purpleheaven @ Oct 15 2022, 05:04 PM) Have IKEA acquired Halal status from Jakim like Auntie Anne did?They haven't AFAIK so they're free to label products on their food premise as they wish. Auntie Anne is different case they did acquire it. They complied to Jakim requirements for their Halal status that is to change the name of the hotdog menu. |
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Oct 15 2022, 05:22 PM
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Big business can demand gomen for almost anything.
Ikea is huge worldwide. Any country would love to have them open shop and hire many B40s. Plus, they pay higher taxes too. With such credentials, they of course can demand gomen for some benefits. Otherwise, they will move the business elsewhere and unemployment rate will shoot up. |
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Oct 15 2022, 05:24 PM
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Malaysia muslim who are very particular with halal certification on the food they take, will have problem traveling oversea, dont be surprize to see them eating bread or eating maggi mee that they brought from Malaysia. |
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Oct 15 2022, 05:26 PM
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Oct 15 2022, 05:44 PM
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QUOTE(accitzone @ Oct 15 2022, 05:26 PM) https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-37700495Food outlets selling hot dogs in Malaysia have been asked to rename their products or risk being refused halal certification. The Malaysian Islamic Development Department, a religious government body, said it adopted the ruling after complaints from Muslim tourists. Director Sirajuddin Suhaimee said the name might cause "confusion". "In Islam, dogs are considered unclean and the name cannot be related to halal certification," he said. Malaysian halal food guidelines say "halal food and halal artificial flavour shall not be named or synonymously named after non-halal products such as ham, bak kut teh, bacon, beer, rum and others that might create confusion," local media said. Muslim-majority Malaysia practises a moderate form of Islam but conservative attitudes are on the rise. 'Pretzel Sausage' On Monday, popular pretzel store franchise Auntie Anne's was refused halal certification unless it renamed its "Pretzel Dog". Mr Suhaimee said it was "more appropriate" to call it a "Pretzel Sausage". Pretzel Dogs on display in Kuala Lumpur IMAGE SOURCE,AP Image caption, Pretzel chain Auntie Anne's was refused halal certification unless it renamed its 'Pretzel Dogs' A representative of the US chain described it as a "minor issue" and said the firm was fine with changing the name on the menu. 'Hot dog is hot dog lah' Malaysian Tourism and Culture Minister Nazri Aziz slammed the ruling, calling it "stupid and backward". "Hot dog is hot dog lah. Even in Malay it's called hot dog - it's been around for so many years. I'm a Muslim and I'm not offended," he told reporters, adding that there was no reason for the religious body to take offence at the word. "It comes from the English language. Please do not make us seem stupid and backward." The ruling has also garnered ridicule and stirred debate among Malaysians on social media. "It's just a name, what does it have to do with whether it's halal or not? Muslims should be more concerned with ingredients and the way food is prepared," wrote Eeman Yusof on Facebook. Comic IMAGE SOURCE,FACEBOOK: BRO, DON'T LIKE THAT LA, BRO "You can always count on the authorities to make us look stupid," said another Malaysian Matt Razal. Another Facebook user said: "Pet shops please rename your dogs as sausages." "It is complications like this that make our country move backwards," commented YL Chew. Activist and columnist Marina Mahathir, the daughter of former Malaysian leader Mahathir Mohamad, criticised the request by the Department of Islamic Development - also known as Jakim. "Oh we poor easily confused Muslims who have never heard of hot dogs before and who will have no choice but to buy one if one was on the menu," she said in a Facebook post that was shared close to 2,000 times. Malaysia often prides itself on being a moderate Muslim nation, which allows other religions freedom of worship. In recent years, there has been greater emphasis on Islamic codes of conduct. |
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Oct 15 2022, 05:46 PM
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QUOTE(Brotherjoe @ Oct 15 2022, 05:24 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Malaysia muslim who are very particular with halal certification on the food they take, will have problem traveling oversea, dont be surprize to see them eating bread or eating maggi mee that they brought from Malaysia. i have no problem with it and respect that |
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Oct 15 2022, 05:55 PM
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b'cos ptrezel kena viral by islamic karen,.. complaint liao,.. so had to conform,..
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