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post Oct 9 2022, 10:14 AM, updated 3y ago

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Honours

Premiership (13): 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2003, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2011, 2013
Division One Champions (7): 1908, 1911, 1952, 1956, 1957, 1965, 1967
Division Two Champions (2): 1936, 1975

European Cup/UEFA Champions League (3): 1968, 1999, 2008
UEFA Europa League (1): 2017
European Cup-Winners' Cup (1): 1991
European Super Cup (1): 1991

FA Charity/Community Shield (21 (17 outright, 4 shared)): 1908, 1911, 1952, 1956, 1957, 1965*, 1967*, 1977*, 1983, 1990*, 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2007, 2008, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2016 (* = joint holders)
FA Cup Winners (12): 1909, 1948, 1963, 1977, 1983, 1985, 1990, 1994, 1996, 1999, 2004, 2016
League Cup Winners (5): 1992, 2006, 2009, 2010, 2017

Toyota Inter-Continental Cup Winners (1): 1999
FIFA Club World Cup (1): 2008

Managers

A. H. Albut [1892 - 1900]
James West [1900 - September 1903]
Ernest Magnall [10 October 1903 - 9 September 1912]
T. J. Wallworth [9 September 1912 - 20 October 1912]
John Bentley [28 October 1912 - 28 December 1914]
John Robson [28 December 1914 - 31 October 1921]
John Chapman [31 October 1921 - 8 October 1926]
Clarence Hildrith [8 October 1926 - 13 April 1927]
Herbert Bamlett [13 April 1927 - 9 November 1931]
Walter Crickmer [9 November 1931 - 13 July 1932]
Scott Duncan [13 July 1932 - 7 November 1937]
Walter Crickmer [9 November 1937 - 15 February 1945]
Matt Busby [1 October 1945 - 11 June 1969]
Jimmy Murphy [February 1958 - June 1958]
Wilf McGuinness [11 June 1969 - 29 December 1970]
Matt Busby [29 December 1970 - 8 June 1971]
Frank O'Farrell [8 June 1971 - 19 December 1972]
Tommy Docherty [22 December 1972 - 4 July 1977]
Dave Sexton [14 July 1977 - 29 April 1981]
Ron Atkinson [9 June 1981 - 6 November 1986]
Sir Alex Ferguson [6 November 1986 - 30 June 2013]
David Moyes [01 July 2013 - 22 April 2014]
Ryan Giggs *Caretaker* [22 April 2014 - 18 May 2014]
Louis van Gaal [July 2014 - 23 May 2016]
Jose Mourinho [27 May 2016 - 18 December 2018]
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer [19 December 2018* - 21 November 2021] *Note: Appointed officially on 28 March 2019
Michael Carrick *Caretaker* [21 November 2021 - 02 December 2021]
Ralf Rangnick *Interim* [03 December 2021 - 22 May 2022]
Erik ten Hag [23 May 2022 - Current]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Manch..._and_statistics

Record Home Win: 10-0 v Anderlecht, 26/09/1956 (European Cup Preliminary Round, 2nd leg)
Record Home Defeat: 1-7 v Newcastle United, 10/09/1927 [Division 1]

Record Away Win: 8-1 v Nottingham Forest, 06/02/1999
Record Away Defeat: 0-7 v Blackburn Rovers, 10/04/1926 (Division 1) | 0-7 v Aston Villa, 27/12/1930 [Division 1] | 0-7 v Wolverhampton Wanderers, 26/12/1931 [Division 2]

Record Win: 10-0 v Anderlecht, 26/09/1956 (European Cup Preliminary Round, 2nd leg)
Record Defeat: 0-7 v Blackburn Rovers, 10/04/1926 (Division 1) | 0-7 v Aston Villa, 27/12/1930 [Division 1] | 0-7 v Wolverhampton Wanderers, 26/12/1931 [Division 2]

Record League Win: 10-1 v Wolves, 15/10/1892 (Division 1)
Record League Defeat: 0-7 v Blackburn Rovers, 10/04/1926 (Division 1) | 0-7 v Aston Villa, 27/12/1930 [Division 1] | 0-7 v Wolverhampton Wanderers, 26/12/1931 [Division 2]

Record Premier League Win: 9-0 v Ipswich Town, 04/03/1995
Record Premier League Defeat: 0-5 v Newcastle United, 20/10/1996 | 0-5 v Chelsea, 03/10/1999 | 1–6 v Manchester City, 23 October 2011

Record FA Cup Win: 8-0 v Yeovil Town, 12/02/1949
Record FA Cup Defeat: 1-7 v Burnley, 13/02/1901 [1st Round]

Record European Win: 10-0 v Anderlecht, 26/09/1956 (European Cup Preliminary Round, 2nd leg)
Record European Defeat: 0-5 v Sporting, 18/03/1964 [Cup Winners' Cup QF]

Record Champions League Win: 7-1 v Roma, 10/04/2007 [UCL QF, 2nd leg]

Record Home Attendance (At Old Trafford): 76,098 31/3/2007 Premier League (Man Utd vs Blackburn) (83,260 for United v Arsenal at Maine Road in 1948)

Record League Appearances: 672 (555 Start, 117 Sub) Ryan Giggs 1990 - 06 May 2014 v Hull City [963 (802 Start, 161 Sub) overall]

Record League Goalscorer: 199 [in 606 league appearances] Sir Bobby Charlton 1956-1973

Record Overall Goalscorer: 253 [in 559 appearances] Wayne Rooney 2004-09 July 2017

Record Transfer Fee Received: 80,000,000 pounds for Cristiano Ronaldo to Real Madrid (July 2009)

Record Transfer Fee Paid: 89,000,000 pounds for Paul Pogba from Juventus (August 2016)


As the world's biggest and richest club, Manchester United reach a global fanbase.

Part of the attraction for fans around the world has been the football luminaries, such as George Best and Sir Bobby Charlton, who have graced the Old Trafford turf in a Manchester United shirt over the years.

Recently, Manchester United have continued to attract or develop some of the game's biggest names, with England stalwarts such as Paul Scholes and David Beckham having been regular fixtures in the Reds line-up.

The Manchester United team, past and present, reads like a who's who of world football.

It is only fitting that a great team should grace a great stadium. And with Old Trafford's recent development and the closure of Wembley, the ground is easily the largest in English football, holding in excess of 60,000 fans.

Despite this capacity, the demand to see United in action is so great that tickets are hard to come by.

But it isn't only Manchester United fans who flock to Old Trafford. The standard of the ground is such that it regularly hosts high-profile games, most notably, the Champions League Final and Great Britain rugby league games.

Rock fans have also made use of the Reds's facilities, watching a number of high-profile acts at the ground.

But it's football that will forever be synonymous with the Reds famous ground - and with good reason.

The last decade has seen Manchester United under the shrewd leadership of Sir Alex Ferguson maintain a virtual stranglehold on the Premiership crown.

Manchester United has won the league no fewer than 18 times in their history. They are also Cup Kings too, winning the FA cup 11 times, the league cup 4 times, as well as winning the European Super Cup, European Cup Winner's Cup, and 3 times being crowned European Cup champions.

Manchester United has long become a name associated with success both on and off the pitch.

As club profits continue to grow, Manchester United have become one of the richest sports clubs on the planet.

With supporters club branches on every continent, it's hard to go any where in the world and not see somebody wearing the famous red shirt of Manchester United.

Manchester United Club Info

Old Trafford

Nickname: The Red Devils

Ground: Old Trafford

Pitch Size: 116 x 76 yards (106.0704 x 69.4944 meter)

Capacity: 76,000

Address: Sir Matt Busby Way, Old Trafford, Manchester

Postcode: M160RA

Directions: From North: Leave the M60 at junction 12 for M602 (Salford / Manchester). At the end of M602 (Jtn 3) follow the signs for Salford Quays and Trafford Park. At the roundabout turn right into Trafford Road (A5063), then at the bridge over Manchester Ship canal, keep in the right hand lane and turn right. Next, follow this road round to Trafford Wharf Road, and then left onto Watersreach. Continue through the traffic lights onto Sir Matt Busby Way.

From South: Leave M6 at junction 19, then take the A56 towards Manchester Airport. Join the M56 to Manchester, going past the Airport and then follow the signs for the M60 (Leeds / Liverpool). Leave M60 at Jtn 7 (A56 Chester Road) following signs for Manchester United Football Club. Turn left into Sir Matt Busby Way.

Ticket prices: 25 pounds upwards, concessions from 12.50 pounds. Tickets for the home sections are usually only available to members of the club and are normally allocated by ballot.

Contact information: Ticket Office: 0161 868 8020
Main Telephone: 0161 868 8000

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QUOTE(zenix @ Nov 24 2009, 09:18 PM)
Hope Alien will sticky this info later.
Though written in 2006 so no Roy Keane yet.

Ex-United players that have moved on to become managers.

Written by Simon Stone (MARCH 22, 2006)

STEVE BRUCE (1987-1996): Took his first steps in management with Sheffield United in 1998, then swiftly moved on to Huddersfield, Wigan and Crystal Palace. Left Selhurst Park in acrimonious fashion after Birmingham targeted him as the replacement for Trevor Francis in 1991. Took Blues into the Premier League but after a heavy FA Cup defeat is struggling to keep his job.

MARTIN POWELL (1971-1983): Stylish and well-respected Scotland centre-half whose authoritative nature appeared to make him a natural for the management game. Lasted four months at Burnley.

SIR BOBBY CHARLTON (1956-1973): Arguably the finest English player of all time proved to be an unmitigated disaster as a manager. Claimed he was not given the resources to make a decent job of it at Preston but was never lured back into management following his departure after a single season.

STEVE COPPELL (1975-1983): After a knee injury cut his playing career short at just 28, Coppell turned his attention to management. Steered Crystal Palace into the FA Cup final and then third place in the old First Division - the Eagles' highest ever - the following season. It was the first of four stints in charge at Selhurst Park in a career which has seen him move to Manchester City (for only six games), Brentford and Brighton. Now at Reading and about to steer the Royals into the top flight for the first time.

PADDY CRERAND (1962-1971): A key figure in United's 1968 European Cup triumph, Crerand lasted five months at Northampton before getting the bullet and, like Charlton, never managed again.

MARK HUGHES (1983-86, 1988-95): Hughes was never tipped as a manager by Ferguson but has taken to the game with ease. Took Wales into the Euro 2004 play-offs. Took over at Blackburn shortly afterwards, steering Rovers away from danger in his first season. Currently in contention for a Champions League spot.

BRIAN KIDD (1967-1974): Another European Cup winner who proved to be a poor manager. Got itchy feet in 1998 after spending seven years as Sir Alex Ferguson's highly-rated assistant. Took command at Blackburn but dismissed six months later.

BRYAN ROBSON (1981-94): United's inspirational leader under Ron Atkinson and Ferguson. There are two schools of thought on his stint at Middlesbrough - he either spent lots and achieved little (relegation and two losing finals) or he laid the platform for the Teessiders to become an established Premiership outfit. Kept West Brom up in extraordinary fashion last year but back in trouble again this season.

GORDON STRACHAN (1984-89): Scotland international who won the FA Cup with United and the title of the pre-Premiership era with Leeds. Sacked after five years at when the Sky Blues lost top-flight status, then enjoyed success at Southampton - reaching the 2003 Cup final - before resigning to spend more time with his family. Now at Celtic, has recovered from a humiliating Champions League exit to Artmedia Bratislava, and, after winning his first trophy on Sunday in the CIS Insurance Cup, is set to clinch the Scottish Premier League.

NOBBY STILES (1960-71): Along with Charlton, one of only two Englishmen to have won the World Cup and European Cup, he replaced his former England and United team-mate at Preston, with limited success. After a brief stint in Vancouver, returned to England to take over as manager of West Brom. Sacked after five months, having gained just three wins.
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Hard to stay awake ni
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watching arsenal's game to pass time lol
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Line-up confirmed
United XI

De Gea
Dalot
Lindelof
Martinez
Shaw
Casemiro
Eriksen
Antony
Fernandes ©
Rashford
Martial

Substitutes: Heaton, Malacia, Varane, Fred, McTominay, Elanga, Pellistri, Sancho, Ronaldo.

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Nice, casmiro starting

sancho benched

Erik memang ruthless
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post Oct 10 2022, 01:12 AM

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Malacia performance costs him the starting
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post Oct 10 2022, 01:28 AM

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Anyone staying awake to watch Everton game? notworthy.gif

Luckily today is a public holiday biggrin.gif
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It is quite obviously a performance based selection.
Yet, Everton is expected to play counter attack and playing low block.
If like this, Rashford speed is quite useless.

But still, it is much better than Ole.
No form, bad form, then time for others to try.
Die die winning eleven is the thing I hate the most.

Btw, Malacia + Sancho is really a bad combination.
Shaw + Rashford is still the best combination if both are on form.

We are so unstable, so it is possible we will be the low block side.
So Rashford speed might still applicable in this match.

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QUOTE(MamulaMoon @ Oct 10 2022, 01:28 AM)
Anyone staying awake to watch Everton game? notworthy.gif

Luckily today is a public holiday biggrin.gif
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yes... later the game end already 4am lol
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Aduh ...
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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Oct 10 2022, 02:00 AM)


Aduh ...
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he is playing though
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Casemiro robbed off the ball and United 1-0 down
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Why Antony didnt warn Casemiro got oppo player on him..
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QUOTE(and85rew @ Oct 10 2022, 02:07 AM)
Casemiro robbed off the ball and United 1-0 down
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that shot is very far. seriously so hard to stop? De gea been conceding lots lately
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Better reaction, not giving up straight away anymore..
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Oct 10 2022, 02:08 AM)
that shot is very far. seriously so hard to stop? De gea been conceding lots lately
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Yes..maybe need new keeper next season
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Antony 1-1
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Nice counter, nice pass from Martial, cool calm finish by Antony..
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Anthony assist to Antony to score
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Healthy possession, recycle ball neatly.. quite good..

Everton happy to sit back and counter..
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casemiro man-marked . no time on ball
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Martial...too injury prone...
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Apart from the goal, Everton pose no serious threat at all..

Must take full advantage.. full 3 points..
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rashford n Anthony swapped wings
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DDG rush out! How many time in his career he did that? LOL

Dalot 4, 5 times missed pass during first half

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casemiro won the ball- pass to ronaldo , goal - assist !
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Ronaldo is finished!

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Tbh, Casemiro still quite unstable compared to McTom in this season, but he does offers more than McTom.
At least he can play long ball, which McTom can't at all.

Yet, like what I said, Casemiro did quite a few times mistake already. Need to improve that.
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Martial, haiz.
Play very good tbh, but so injury prone ...
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Everton was 4 points off relegation zone last season..

Expect nothing less than full 3 points..
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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Oct 10 2022, 02:53 AM)
Tbh, Casemiro still quite unstable compared to McTom in this season, but he does offers more than McTom.
At least he can play long ball, which McTom can't at all.

Yet, like what I said, Casemiro did quite a few times mistake already. Need to improve that.
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Casemiro style quite diff compared with his days with RM. At RM, once he intercept the ball, usually will passed to Kross or Modric but here he needs to do long thru pass
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Oct 10 2022, 03:02 AM)
Everton was 4 points off relegation zone last season..

Expect nothing less than full 3 points..
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everton concede the least in EPL before this game biggrin.gif
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Damn almost perfect set peice from Eriksen..
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Niiice kill the game off..
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Ler disallowed.. no special treatment for Rashy from the FA..
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harsh var...
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QUOTE(MamulaMoon @ Oct 10 2022, 03:42 AM)
How on earth that was a handball?
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i think fulham protested goal that also hit hand of west ham player...but it stood... rclxub.gif
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i think fulham protested goal that also hit hand of west ham player...but it stood... rclxub.gif
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Maybe VAR favour the home team?

Nevermind we got all 3 points... so VAR denied our 3rd goal doesnt matter now
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Most of the players not enough stamina to maintain high tempo until 90 mins.
Need more stamina training.

By the mean time, can only sub in fresh leg around 70 mins, as alternative solution.
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Full 3 points collected all that matters.. good job all around..
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2nd time getting back in the game after conceding 1-0..
Against 2 poor teams though.. but u only can play whats in front of u..

Game against Newcastle next Sunday will be interesting..
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Btw, our injuries list also quite long.
Most of them is not lineup players, but it started to become worrying if it continue.

For sure it affecting squad depth.
For example, there is no pure replacement or competition for Diogo Dalot, which is not good.

B.Williams
AWB
Maguire
Tuanzebe
VDB
Phil Jones
Martial (?)

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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Oct 10 2022, 05:21 AM)


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Phil Jones still injured? From what he got injured?
Lol.
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Phil Jones still injured?  From what he got injured?
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He's born injured. It's when he is fit, we gotta ask how.

Look at that pass from Casemiro to CR7 for the goal. Instinctive. No lag.
Once he dispossese Everton on the ball he just knows where to go.

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He's born injured. It's when he is fit, we gotta ask how.

Look at that pass from Casemiro to CR7 for the goal. Instinctive. No lag.
Once he dispossese Everton on the ball he just knows where to go.
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Casemiro and cr7 very click. Know each others movement
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Case get a good education today on the physicality of playing DM. there is absolutely nowhere to hide.

A 6.5 out of 10 for me.

Martial does not do himself any favour, 30 mins and injured. As a manager I will not plan with him in starting 11. Waste of 1 sub and training drills.

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Case get a good education today on the physicality of playing DM. there is absolutely nowhere to hide.

A 6.5 out of 10 for me.

Man of the match
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Surprise - Luke Shaw man of the match for me.
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Aiyar, didn't able live see ronaldo score.stupid astro go cannot watch while in Indonesia.

Performance based starting 11. Good!

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Few positive takeaways from this game

1. Shaw is fit again, he cut few kg away and looks lighter than first 2 games

2. Ronaldo 700th goal finally come, hopefully this will kick start his season

3. Casemiro first taste of full EPL game and know how physical EPL game is but apart from first mistake and few easy miss passed, he did quite decent.

Actually ETH can deploy 2 DM, Fred x Case or McTom x Case combo cuz Eriksen easily get exposed when Casemiro lose possession, just like 1st goal

Another thing to worry is Dalot, he miss passed quite a numbers and we don’t have a proper right back to challenge him now with AWB and BW are out injured

Martial, well….
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Oct 10 2022, 01:02 PM)
Few positive takeaways from this game

1. Shaw is fit again, he cut few kg away and looks lighter than first 2 games

2. Ronaldo 700th goal finally come, hopefully this will kick start his season

3. Casemiro first taste of full EPL game and know how physical EPL game is but apart from first mistake and few easy miss passed, he did quite decent.

Actually ETH can deploy 2 DM, Fred x Case or McTom x Case combo cuz Eriksen easily get exposed when Casemiro lose possession, just like 1st goal

Another thing to worry is Dalot, he miss passed quite a numbers and we don’t have a proper right back to challenge him now with AWB and BW are out injured

Martial, well….
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We should got for ultimate 3 cdm! Casemiro mcfred. Sure solid lol
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ronaldo should start the next games. the 700th got off his shoulders, hopefully he flourish
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Yes, he was boxing the left flank, so aggressive and bullying Gordon for the whole game!
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Since the start of the season, the team has improved in several small increments. Small, but increments nonetheless. Still far from where we want to be but the season was always going to be one of transition.
One area of concern is space utilisation during the attacking transition. As the team gels, this should get better. In the game against Everton, first half was too end to end for ETH's liking and second half was more an exercise in control. The team making the second pass instead of the vertical one. Apart from the last section of the second half, it was measured.

Casemiro is expected to grow into the CDM position in ETH's system after spending time familiarizing in training. Good early signs are there and fans will breathe a sigh of relief McFred is absent from the equation for the first time in years. Casemiro interprets the CDM role differently than what ETH's system wants, hence the bedding in period.

After the City game, ETH was the target of much criticism even from pundits. I say we need to take everything into context. Really nobody should expect us to beat City after they got Haaland and the difference in quality showed. I am of the opinion we should give credit where credit is due based on progress. Manchester United is not going to play free flowing football this season. That is not the expectation. But after the first two losses which prompted transfer action from the club, Manchester United have won 5 out of the last 6 League games. Losing to City yes, but we beat Arsenal and Liverpool in that run. After that 4-0 defeat to Brentford, such a run would be considered a dream run. We are really a sixth place club, and are fifth by virtue of Liverpool's bad season with the same few clubs above us. For fans, have faith and trust the process.

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Anthony always on 1 vs 2, no attempt to dribble, take easier route. Hopefully Dalot can be more adventurous to help him next time.
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Oct 10 2022, 01:02 PM)
Few positive takeaways from this game

1. Shaw is fit again, he cut few kg away and looks lighter than first 2 games

2. Ronaldo 700th goal finally come, hopefully this will kick start his season

3. Casemiro first taste of full EPL game and know how physical EPL game is but apart from first mistake and few easy miss passed, he did quite decent.

Actually ETH can deploy 2 DM, Fred x Case or McTom x Case combo cuz Eriksen easily get exposed when Casemiro lose possession, just like 1st goal

Another thing to worry is Dalot, he miss passed quite a numbers and we don’t have a proper right back to challenge him now with AWB and BW are out injured

Martial, well….
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yea dalot misplaced passes is worrying and everton not even try to press him... and there is no competition for him... since other right backs all injured or loaned out...
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we are not going to play like man city/arsenal this season... man city also need more than 1 season to implement the play style... while arsenal spent more than 3 seasons... if everyone thought we can instantly change, thats impossible, since we never played possession based football since LVG era... and that time the gameplay is mostly bored opponents to death not play to win... sweat.gif sweat.gif
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Oct 11 2022, 03:55 PM)
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we are not going to play like man city/arsenal this season... man city also need more than 1 season to implement the play style... while arsenal spent more than 3 seasons... if everyone thought we can instantly change, thats impossible, since we never played possession based football since LVG era... and that time the gameplay is mostly bored opponents to death not play to win...  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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Those clubs and their new manager back then didnt lose 4-0 before half time twice in 7 matches..

No one should expect United to play great straight away.. but everyone should expect United to be hard to beat.. both games were done at half time..
Both games also the players and the manager fail to react positively after conceding 1 goal and just let the opponent walk all over them..

Trusting the process does not mean the manager is above criticism.. that is how we treated Ole back then.. after 3 years 0 trophies, mediocre players contract renewed with high wages and their loser mentality influencing the dressing room, going backwards..

Nobody bigger than the club.. credit and criticism where it dues..
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Oct 11 2022, 07:42 AM)
Since the start of the season, the team has improved in several small increments. Small, but increments nonetheless. Still far from where we want to be but the season was always going to be one of transition.
One area of concern is space utilisation during the attacking transition. As the team gels, this should get better. In the game against Everton, first half was too end to end for ETH's liking and second half was more an exercise in control. The team making the second pass instead of the vertical one. Apart from the last section of the second half, it was measured.

Casemiro is expected to grow into the CDM position in ETH's system after spending time familiarizing in training. Good early signs are there and fans will breathe a sigh of relief McFred is absent from the equation for the first time in years. Casemiro interprets the CDM role differently than what ETH's system wants, hence the bedding in period.

After the City game, ETH was the target of much criticism even from pundits. I say we need to take everything into context. Really nobody should expect us to beat City after they got Haaland and the difference in quality showed. I am of the opinion we should give credit where credit is due based on progress. Manchester United is not going to play free flowing football this season. That is not the expectation. But after the first two losses which prompted transfer action from the club, Manchester United have won 5 out of the last 6 League games. Losing to City yes, but we beat Arsenal and Liverpool in that run. After that 4-0 defeat to Brentford, such a run would be considered a dream run. We are really a sixth place club, and are fifth by virtue of Liverpool's bad season with the same few clubs above us. For fans, have faith and trust the process.
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Eth needs to bench those that not following orders from start of game. But happy to not see maguire on lineup.
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Oct 11 2022, 06:26 PM)
Eth needs to bench those that not following orders from start of game. But happy to not see maguire on lineup.
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I suspect Varane played so badly against City that he was actually dropped rather than injured

Or he could be injured and hence played so badly….🧐
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Oct 11 2022, 02:55 PM)
yea dalot misplaced passes is worrying and everton not even try to press him... and there is no competition for him... since other right backs all injured or loaned out...
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Everton should have study the game when we vs city. City players focus on dalot’s side, all the cross, built up was from there

Ok next 3 games - 6th place Newcastle, 3rd place spurs and 4th place Chelsea, and ETH vs Potter again after we lose our first game against Brighton but now it’s Chelsea lol

If we able to survive this 3 games and keep close on top 4, whether if we finished top 4 or not, I’m happy
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Oct 11 2022, 05:56 PM)
Those clubs and their new manager back then didnt lose 4-0 before half time twice in 7 matches..

No one should expect United to play great straight away.. but everyone should expect United to be hard to beat.. both games were done at half time..
Both games also the players and the manager fail to react positively after conceding 1 goal and just let the opponent walk all over them..

Trusting the process does not mean the manager is above criticism.. that is how we treated Ole back then.. after 3 years 0 trophies, mediocre players contract renewed with high wages and their loser mentality influencing the dressing room, going backwards..

Nobody bigger than the club.. credit and criticism where it dues..
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agree no one should be spared from criticism... the positive is that ETH try to respond positively to the criticism too.... generally time will still give... but criticism will still be given... otherwise this club wont be going forward anymore... generally ETH is trying to head to the positive direction with his methods... its up to the players to fight for their places...
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Oct 12 2022, 01:33 AM)
Everton should have study the game when we vs city. City players focus on dalot’s side, all the cross, built up was from there

Ok next 3 games - 6th place Newcastle, 3rd place spurs and 4th place Chelsea, and ETH vs Potter again after we lose our first game against Brighton but now it’s Chelsea lol

If we able to survive this 3 games and keep close on top 4, whether if we finished top 4 or not, I’m happy
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they studied and try to attack dalot... haha.... but their frontline just not functioning... shaw side is secured as always he performed better with competition... now dalot lack of competition on his side... susah.... he could be first team rb til world cup...
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Fascinating ucl. Pool bounce back. Barca out soon lol. Gambling failed.

Pool always better with firmino. Think Salah-firmino-mane is their strongest combo
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Fascinating ucl. Pool bounce back. Barca out soon lol. Gambling failed.

Pool always better with firmino. Think Salah-firmino-mane is their strongest combo
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Oct 13 2022, 10:41 AM)
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Lets gooo.. full 3 points nothing less..
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Woke up to pee at 2.30am, ended up watching game now. Better give me some goals or play till let me fall asleep lol
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Positionally Malacia is kinda all over the place, idk how i feel about that LOL.
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Horrible crosses into the box so far..

Rashford should've scored that chance..
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30 minutes against a small team still no goals…
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bruno selfish again
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He jealous after seeing Casemiro’s strike almost goal so he tried himself also!
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Well they are parking the bus and we did have some good chances.
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Wasted many chances.. Omonia didnt give much pressure when United have the ball.. should take full advantage of that..

Bruno poor quality passes again n again..
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Opponent left back very disciplined, Antony has little chance so far. Ten Hag need to adjust on this.

After long time still didn't open the score despite having more possession, Martinez and Dalot started to make mistakes.
Not good, may be can sub in Shaw, and Malacia play as right back.
But Martinez, Ten Hag only can tell him to be more discipline and more patient.
Theoretically, Varane + Lindelof is not a good partnership, both no speed.

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Another clear cut chance wasted..
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yeah watching first live game after subscribing to SOOKA for trial 1 month. RM41.. quality not bad.. Better than Astro GO.
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Not all matches are available for pay per view RM9.90

I believe RM41 per month, the price is still considered reasonable sweat.gif

The only payment option available is credit card sweat.gif
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It’s in match like this that you wish martial is on the pitch.

Total 25 shots , 10 on target

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Waaaaa keeper rating 9.6

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Rash missed too much
Bruno..well as usual wasteful on the ball

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Finally a goal wohoo
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All of our subs have played well, Sancho and Shaw solid. McSauce getting the goal finally.
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Wasteful but great 3 points..

If the rumors that Felix wanted to leave after WC, should do whatever it takes toget him..
Bruno aint the guy to lead the attack..
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Rashford quite good in 1st half, but when opponent park the bus in 2nd half, he can only try long shot, and his accuracy was really bad.
An old issue that cannot be solved.

On the another way around, Sancho finally performed better as substitution.
Not surprised, as I said so many times, Sancho is a much better choice compared to Rashford when opponent is parking the bus. When more small team play is forcefully needed.
Yet, the same Sancho is always mediocre in Manchester United style of counter attack playing, which emphasize on speed and crossing.

Quite an issue. Rashford is bad toward bus parking opponent. Sancho is bad in counter attack play.

CR7 also not the prime CR7 anymore.
Quite sure this is his last season in the team.

Bruno, really passionate, really eager.
But his final pass and final shot is really lack of accuracy.
Did he even had shot on target this match? No right?
It is already more like, [haiya I try 10 times, sure will successful 1 time mah.]
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On the positive part, generally actually the playing style has improved a lot against bus parking team, compared to last season or even seasons.

There is obviously a clear tactical plan instead of just merely based on individual brilliance.
Got lots of shot on target, just that the shooting boots were missing and opponent goal keeper got a bit of luck.

For the defence line, there was several mistakes from Dalot, and surprisingly Martinez even made more mistakes.
Yet when the defence line facing pressure, I can see they are more comfortable, the one with the ball know where to pass, the one who is supporting get to the position.

This really cannot see during Ole era.
When opponent press, kelam kabut terus.

Overall satisfied, just lacked a bit of luck in this match.
Shud get more goals, but building the playing style is more important for this season.
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Btw, Dalot has been making mistakes recently.
Martinez also made too much mistakes in this match.

I think one of the reason is that they have been playing not stop, together with international matches. They need rest.

But so far no one can replace Martinez.
Varane + Lundelof is theoretically not a good combination, both lack of speed.

And AWB, became so injury prone, haiz.
May be Malacia can play right back, Ten Hag let him played that position for 20 mins. Forgot which match already.
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Google team always hard to beat for some reason
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CR7 make few nice pass end up Rash shoot direct on GK
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Speaking of UCL 3rd place, some team sold their club and use billions to buy players and some player wanted to stay cuz of UCL footballs ended up playing Europa pretty soon LOL
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hopefully they gg this season financial fairplay again... and sell more assets to cover... spent so much in the end cant even qualify knockout round tongue.gif tongue.gif in the league they are not sure win candidate... in UCL lagi teruk... lol
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Welcome fdj to europa
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30 minutes against a small team still no goals…
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Nearly lose the game if the other Bruno not selfish. Games like this really wish martial is playing.

A win is a win! Good sub as sancho mctom combined. Though sancho has been missing for 5-10mins before the goal
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Welcome fdj to europa
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pogba too

Hope United will meet this two teams and beat them to win Europa rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(and85rew @ Oct 14 2022, 01:32 PM)
pogba too

Hope United will meet this two teams and beat them to win Europa rclxm9.gif
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Omonia keeper was not dishing out top class performance..

It was straight to him all night.. the only one that tested him was Casemiro long ranger..

United finishing were too poor..

It is even more embarrassing when u find out that Omonia finished 7th in their league last season..
Their league ranked at 21 in europe.. super low..

As usual when Ronaldo dont score, "he's finished" quotes will come out..
With wild crosses to nobody all match, Haaland n Lewandowski also cant score..
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Oct 14 2022, 02:37 PM)
Omonia keeper was not dishing out top class performance..

It was straight to him all night.. the only one that tested him was Casemiro long ranger..

United finishing were too poor..

It is even more embarrassing when u find out that Omonia finished 7th in their league last season..
Their league ranked at 21 in europe.. super low..

As usual when Ronaldo dont score, "he's finished" quotes will come out..
With wild crosses to nobody all match, Haaland n Lewandowski also cant score..
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That MF did not provide enough
Bruno was very poor and messy
Casemiro and Fred very rusty
No supply = no goals
As i said before..United real opponents are teams that parked bus
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QUOTE(and85rew @ Oct 14 2022, 03:11 PM)
That MF did not provide enough
Bruno was very poor and messy
Casemiro and Fred very rusty
No supply = no goals
As i said before..United real opponents are teams that parked bus
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we need eriksen at bruno place and let bruno bench and make him think more... his hollywood passes already kena found out and now it bcum lousy passes only... shooting also not threatening anymore, i think he reli need some bench time to cool down... and we need to get another CM to replace eriksen at that no.6 spot...
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Oct 14 2022, 04:16 PM)
we need eriksen at bruno place and let bruno bench and make him think more... his hollywood passes already kena found out and now it bcum lousy passes only... shooting also not threatening anymore, i think he reli need some bench time to cool down... and we need to get another CM to replace eriksen at that no.6 spot...
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Totally agree. That hollywood passes mostly only effective ork during counters only. Hard vs teams that sit deep.

Need a combative MF
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Even though last night game was entertaining, but it shows that our finishing are really bad. Like others said, it is not that their keeper is that good, but most of our players shot are directly aimed at him. Really shows that we lack the striker needed to complete the team.
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Well, well, well.

LIVE Transfer Talk: Frenkie de Jong eyes Barcelona exit in January website: https://global.espn.com/football/blog-trans...exit-in-january
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Really hope Barca dont win anything. And seeing how much we are relying on Eriksen, we need a deep lying playmaker which De Jong fits the bill.
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Really hope Barca dont win anything. And seeing how much we are relying on Eriksen, we need a deep lying playmaker which De Jong fits the bill.
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I like the potential January reinforcement now.
De Jong at the base of midfield, and Eriksen at CAM to give Bruno a break.
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Oct 14 2022, 04:16 PM)
we need eriksen at bruno place and let bruno bench and make him think more... his hollywood passes already kena found out and now it bcum lousy passes only... shooting also not threatening anymore, i think he reli need some bench time to cool down... and we need to get another CM to replace eriksen at that no.6 spot...
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Kapitan must play. Else you will see both kapitan on bench lol. He has been poor more than good since ole final year
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Oct 15 2022, 09:05 AM)
I like the potential January reinforcement now.
De Jong at the base of midfield, and Eriksen at CAM to give Bruno a break.
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The prospect of potential January reinforcement does indeed sound very good.

But with the current situation, I don't think the club will do it. Unless the Glazers sold the club.

I hope that I am wrong so that we can get reinforcement, but chances are very slim.
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Greenwood’s gf follow back Greenwood’s IG again

And he got arrested again LOL

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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Oct 15 2022, 08:07 PM)
Greenwood’s gf follow back Greenwood’s IG again

And he got arrested again LOL
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that is screwed up
greenwood oh greenwood
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QUOTE(even_steven @ Oct 15 2022, 04:41 PM)
The prospect of potential January reinforcement does indeed sound very good.

But with the current situation, I don't think the club will do it. Unless the Glazers sold the club.

I hope that I am wrong so that we can get reinforcement, but chances are very slim.
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Doubt the Glazers will sell after slapping that 9B pricetag to dissuade buyers. Who knows, may just be a smokescreen and negotiation tactic.
After being given Casemiro as CDM, ETH may be asked to sit tight in Jan.

But a fan can hope.
The need for a midfield orchestrator is so clear to see. None of the midfielders we have fit the requirement currently, unless Casemiro grows into it at his age.


QUOTE(beck_ken @ Oct 15 2022, 08:07 PM)
Greenwood’s gf follow back Greenwood’s IG again

And he got arrested again LOL
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Have written off Greenwood.
If he plays for us again, it's a bonus.

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Oct 15 2022, 10:50 PM)
Doubt the Glazers will sell after slapping that 9B pricetag to dissuade buyers. Who knows, may just be a smokescreen and negotiation tactic.
After being given Casemiro as CDM, ETH may be asked to sit tight in Jan.

But a fan can hope.
The need for a midfield orchestrator is so clear to see. None of the midfielders we have fit the requirement currently, unless Casemiro grows into it at his age.
Have written off Greenwood.
If he plays for us again, it's a bonus.
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Bye bye Greenwood. Can write off, free up no 11 and go look for new striker in the market

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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Oct 15 2022, 11:52 PM)
Bye bye Greenwood. Can write off, free up no 11 and go look for new striker in the market

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If guilty, United will terminate his contract

If not guilty, Greenwood may resume his career but with dented reputation and confidence

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QUOTE(and85rew @ Oct 16 2022, 01:41 PM)
If guilty, United will terminate his contract

If not guilty, Greenwood may resume his career but with dented reputation and confidence
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Actually all the while ok one during bail but he don’t know if idiot or itchy go find his gf again, police straight press charges on him
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Oct 15 2022, 08:07 PM)
Greenwood’s gf follow back Greenwood’s IG again

And he got arrested again LOL
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Have one doubt

Since he is off from competition for so long, and not sure got keep on training ot noy

Even if freed from criminal charges and rejoined the team

So fast can start? Maybe need some time to pickup I guess

Anyway... looking fwd to 9.oopm match and hopefully will be a good one
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QUOTE(coolguy_0925 @ Oct 16 2022, 05:27 PM)
Have one doubt

Since he is off from competition for so long, and not sure got keep on training ot noy

Even if freed from criminal charges and rejoined the team

So fast can start? Maybe need some time to pickup I guess

Anyway... looking fwd to 9.oopm match and hopefully will be a good one
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More like will be maguire form after greece
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What happened to eriksen?
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Fred is so rubbish in attacking, and ppl say he is better in attacking, haiz ...
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Casemiro-Fred.
Will be interesting to see how that pairing works.
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We are lucky with that penalty
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Don't care what is the solution, Dolot need to be rested.
He has been making mistakes non stop recently.
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Good intensity.. Trippier cross is dangerous..
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Lucky not to concede yet

So much difference without Eriksen

Bruno is not the answer

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I have the chills....Its not looking good. Total disconnect between our midfield and front line.
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Draw is lucky, win is bonus

Howie’s Newcastle is really something

Howie and Potter are the 2 managers I really like
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I have the chills....Its not looking good. Total disconnect between our midfield and front line.
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Bruno wanna be the striker.. its 4-2-4.. hard to control the midfield with one less man..
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Oct 16 2022, 09:31 PM)
Bruno wanna be the striker.. its 4-2-4.. hard to control the midfield with one less man..
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Bruno for me now is only a squad player, or rotation player.
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Play like this at OT. So sad man
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Look at how the guy quickly run forward leaving his midfield partners whenever Utd get the ball back..
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Footballers are a bunch of sissies

Touch a bit on the face, etc
Cry baby rolling on the ground.


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Fred is terrible man.

Newcastle in no 3 in chances creation

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QUOTE(areankim @ Oct 16 2022, 09:38 PM)
Fred is terrible man.
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If he stays beyond half time, i dunno what to say
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If he stays beyond half time, i dunno what to say
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eriksen and mctominay not available though
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2nd half might be better.. if Newcastle cannot keep this same level of intensity..
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bring Garnacho ganti sancho je. long time see him
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Martinez so damn good..

Bruno and Fred should be transfer listed if seriously want to compete..
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this is painful to watch
no gameplay at all and no aggression
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this is painful to watch
no gameplay at all and no aggression
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Got gamplay.. its Hollywood ball, pump up forward swiftly and chase..
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Oct 16 2022, 09:55 PM)
Got gamplay.. its Hollywood ball, pump up forward swiftly and chase..
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with this..got 2 haaland also no use...no supply...
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That is actually a goal, ref blow the whistle , Newcastle player pass to the goal keeper

Anthony only see Ronaldo is it?

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ronaldo's goal looks legit though. the def did kick it?
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Anthony should run at burn come
On!! Take him on

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this ref tough on United hehe
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That kick out at sancho has to be a penalty,

Aiyooo

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Ini ref sudah kena bayar ka?
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QUOTE(areankim @ Oct 16 2022, 10:12 PM)
That is actually a goal, ref blow the whistle , Newcastle player pass to the goal keeper

Anthony only see Ronaldo is it?
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He only pass to his idol lol
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If that was Martial then probably penalty lol..
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rashford to the rescue
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Sudah kata how many times, Kasi chance to Zidane.
Now need another control midfielder to replace Eriksen, x ade. Haiz ...
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I will take out Bruno for Rashford and play 2 forwards instead of taking off Ronaldo

Bruno really contribute… none?
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Haiz .. with Fred as no.8, only pressing, no control, no good passing. How to win, haiz ...
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Bruno moaning at teammates and ref.. the linesman safe for now..
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When can we score form set piece again?
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Come on la Ten Hag, be bold and Kasi 10 mins to Zidane la, if Eriksen is injured.
U need another no.8 to replace Eriksen, and the answer is not Fred.
Develop Zidane a bit la.

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Ronaldo off then suddenly can do nice crosses..
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No other subs to play ka ….
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ETH reminds me of Ole in terms of sub, afraid to make changes and don’t fully utilised the sub or he no confidence on his sub bench?
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Oct 16 2022, 10:46 PM)
ETH reminds me of Ole in terms of sub, afraid to make changes and don’t fully utilised the sub or he no confidence on his sub bench?
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Very physical opponents. All in the bench are light weight
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Fred o Fred
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Just sub off Fred pls, I can't tahan anymore
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QUOTE(areankim @ Oct 16 2022, 10:48 PM)
Very physical opponents. All in the bench are light weight
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Yup, that’s why I said Howie always hard to beat, they managed to draw City already said it all
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Oct 16 2022, 10:45 PM)
Ronaldo off then suddenly can do nice crosses..
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They sabo CR lol

Proven bruno fernandes is overated

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Should have scored!!
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Rashford is the most shittiest finisher i ever seen
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Ronaldo would have headed it in at 100mph and on target
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Ronaldo would have scored that
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Dont worry, when Rashford score 2 goals against bottom table team.. then "Rashy is back!" be trending again..

Rinse and repeat..
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Disappointed with Ten Hag this time, really disappointed.
His boldness in giving chance to youngster is almost no existence in Manchester United.

If he can kasi sikit chance to Zidane, then he is ready to at least play 10 mins in this match, where no.8 is missing.

Wake up Ten Hag, Fred is not the answer for no.8 the control midfielder.
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Play like this cab forget about finishing top 4
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Oct 15 2022, 10:50 PM)
Doubt the Glazers will sell after slapping that 9B pricetag to dissuade buyers. Who knows, may just be a smokescreen and negotiation tactic.
After being given Casemiro as CDM, ETH may be asked to sit tight in Jan.

But a fan can hope.
The need for a midfield orchestrator is so clear to see. None of the midfielders we have fit the requirement currently, unless Casemiro grows into it at his age.

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Lousy Fred. Miss so many chances and final pass. Should have sub him or bruno. Keep ronaldo

Kick on sancho no penalty. What the hell
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All the pundits agree that Ronaldo scored. Bad refereeing this match.
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All the pundits agree that Ronaldo scored. Bad refereeing this match.
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Newcastle press better and more consistent..
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QUOTE(and85rew @ Oct 16 2022, 11:10 PM)
Ref screwed it up
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Oct 16 2022, 11:10 PM)


Newcastle press better and more consistent..
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Tbh, before the match, I already had thought it will be a good result for a draw, as Newcastle is really good this season.
But in actual match, Newcastle is actually not as good as previous matches, thus we shud actually win.
Yet, we were even worse when there is no proper control midfielder who can link the defence and attack lines. An old issue.

Sancho made several good run but Fred just can't see it or can't pass it bcuz he is lack of vision. He is only good in pressing, no more than that.

This is one of the issue in rebuild process, Ten Hag shud see it.
There is almost zero chance the club will spend on winter transfer, thus Ten Hag need to find alternative solution until next summer.

I really hope he can clearly see that Fred is totally not the answer as Eriksen replacement.
I know he knows it. He just need some hard lesson to push him to make the bold change, just like after heavy defeat to Brentford.

Is this the lesson hard enough?
Not sure, since it was just a draw.
May be only if Eriksen is injured and miss several matches then Ten Hag will learn in hard way.
But I certainly hope that won't happen.
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He prefer to sub out the most clutch player of all time..

One sub whole match while witnessing some of them out of gas..

This guy think he still in Dutch league..


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Cracking match this Liv vs City..
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I rmb a fans here keep complaining the management failed to buy Nunez.
Damn bro, we avoided a bomb.
He is even more selfish than the most selfish version of Rashford and Greenwood.

How can he not make the pass to Salah.
His running or movement is good tbh, but he is extremely selfish man.



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el clasico this day so slow and boring, citeh vs the kops replace that aura.. good game
but we can learn that RM players are too good with their passing and delivery
they attack the ball instead of waiting the ball come like man utd players

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The record still stand..

That match against United is the easiest City ever get this season..
Killed the game in 44min.. 4-0 at half time..

Soton also dont rollover like that last week..
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Oct 17 2022, 07:02 AM)
The record still stand..

That match against United is the easiest City ever get this season..
Killed the game in 44min.. 4-0 at half time..

Soton also dont rollover like that last week..
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Oct 17 2022, 07:02 AM)
The record still stand..

That match against United is the easiest City ever get this season..
Killed the game in 44min.. 4-0 at half time..

Soton also dont rollover like that last week..
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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Oct 17 2022, 01:32 AM)
I rmb a fans here keep complaining the management failed to buy Nunez.
Damn bro, we avoided a bomb.
He is even more selfish than the most selfish version of Rashford and Greenwood.

How can he not make the pass to Salah.
His running or movement is good tbh, but he is extremely selfish man.

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Nunez was one of ETH main target.. he wanted the kid at United..

Fans were complaining board failure to get ETH target..
Nobody wanted the striker that made Benfica worse at United..
Only Ten Hag..
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midfield oh midfield... said thousand times dy, we need two CM/CDM... but no fdj then we spent all money to hoot antony... now the midfield same old issue when eriksen is out... the crosses from dalot and antony are sucks... lol... second half newcastle already given up playing... but still we cant score... the penalty box decision making were reli bad most of the time... feel like watching LVG era, gained alot possession but nth to show...

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to be honest, antony not crosser type of player....
same go to sancho.....
if u expect both become crosser, u need slowly convert them....

for CDM, it well known that casemiro not a playmaking CDM....
but few pass from him is kinda unexpected like the flip for rashford at the end....

Fred is only start because mctominay is ban for 5yellow...
no choice....

VDB have been injured at the wrong timing....
otherwise he might given chance to start than Fred....

Hope united going for striker and playmaking CDM during Jan....
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QUOTE(Darren @ Oct 17 2022, 10:38 AM)
to be honest, antony not crosser type of player....
same go to sancho.....
if u expect both become crosser, u need slowly convert them....

for CDM, it well known that casemiro not a playmaking CDM....
but few pass from him is kinda unexpected like the flip for rashford at the end....

Fred is only start because mctominay is ban for 5yellow...
no choice....

VDB have been injured at the wrong timing....
otherwise he might given chance to start than Fred....

Hope united going for striker and playmaking CDM during Jan....
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dont think the board will buy anyone during jan... lol.... gonna be need to tahan for this whole season with the squad we have now... now is whether ETH dare to use youngsters or not at midfield there when the options depleted... everyone know Eriksen sure cant play the whole season in full, same applies to mctom and casemiro... but haiz... spend whole summer chasing shadow for fdj and in the end main problem never solved...

casemiro already did more than what he did in RM already... he seldom make passes like ytdy in RM since kroos and modric always do nicely for him... now he have to be the one to control the tempo of our midfield...
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Oct 16 2022, 07:08 PM)
More like will be maguire form after greece
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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Oct 16 2022, 11:00 PM)
Play like this cab forget about finishing top 4
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I don’t expect too 4 this season, this season aim top 6, if top 4 then it’s a bonus

Porter’s Chelsea is getting better each game, and he beat ETH with his average Brighton during our first game

QUOTE(silvertoes @ Oct 16 2022, 11:25 PM)
He prefer to sub out the most clutch player of all time..

One sub whole match while witnessing some of them out of gas..

This guy think he still in Dutch league..
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I already said it many months ago that ETH have few things similar to Ole - Late sub, doesn’t fully utilised the sub, don’t have plan b

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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Oct 17 2022, 11:25 AM)
I don’t expect too 4 this season, this season aim top 6, if top 4 then it’s a bonus

Porter’s Chelsea is getting better each game, and he beat ETH with his average Brighton during our first game
I already said it many months ago that ETH have few things similar to Ole - Late sub, doesn’t fully utilised the sub, don’t have plan b
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Oct 17 2022, 11:25 AM)
I don’t expect too 4 this season, this season aim top 6, if top 4 then it’s a bonus

Porter’s Chelsea is getting better each game, and he beat ETH with his average Brighton during our first game
I already said it many months ago that ETH have few things similar to Ole - Late sub, doesn’t fully utilised the sub, don’t have plan b
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Chelsea memang ada magic. Change owner d, no profile manager also can keep winning
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Oct 17 2022, 11:12 AM)
dont think the board will buy anyone during jan... lol.... gonna be need to tahan for this whole season with the squad we have now... now is whether ETH dare to use youngsters or not at midfield there when the options depleted... everyone know Eriksen sure cant play the whole season in full, same applies to mctom and casemiro... but haiz... spend whole summer chasing shadow for fdj and in the end main problem never solved...

casemiro already did more than what he did in RM already... he seldom make passes like ytdy in RM since kroos and modric always do nicely for him... now he have to be the one to control the tempo of our midfield...
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yeah....
his passing is more better at opponent half vs own half....
too bad he is CDM and mctominay is ban....
otherwise yesterday surely play better....


QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Oct 17 2022, 12:38 PM)
Chelsea memang ada magic. Change owner d, no profile manager also can keep winning
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chelsea squad depth are much better than us....
that reality....
even chelsea kick so many manager but their squad depth n player are much better than us....
make it more easier for the new manager .....
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Jose won EL and League Cup in his first season..
And fans said not good enough..
Said Utd should be competing for the league..

Fast forward..
Now fans saying its okay to not getting top 4..

Damn easy being United manager nowadays..
Fans keep changing objectives to give more chances..

Have to thank Ole for successfully lowering the standard..
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Oct 17 2022, 12:38 PM)
Chelsea memang ada magic. Change owner d, no profile manager also can keep winning
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If Abaramovich still own em, he will sack Potter if Chelsea not in the title race or not getting pass round of 16 in CL next season..

Too early to tell if this new owner got the same high ambition to win trophies..
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Oct 17 2022, 09:38 AM)
midfield oh midfield... said thousand times dy, we need two CM/CDM... but no fdj then we spent all money to hoot antony... now the midfield same old issue when eriksen is out... the crosses from dalot and antony are sucks... lol... second half newcastle already given up playing... but still we cant score... the penalty box decision making were reli bad most of the time... feel like watching LVG era, gained alot possession but nth to show...
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Agreed. Midfield is our weakest link so far. We need players like Roy Keane who can dominate midfield.

Should we go for Declan Rice? nod.gif
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For too long, we keep breaking the record in a negative way since the Ole regime (or managers before him). Good thing something positive happened recently.


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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...ols-winner.html

Funny. Top manager knows what is coming
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Oct 18 2022, 12:14 AM)
well if its the chelsea' torres then it may missed... but if its salah... it already gone case... haha
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QUOTE(MamulaMoon @ Oct 17 2022, 05:32 PM)
Agreed. Midfield is our weakest link so far. We need players like Roy Keane who can dominate midfield.

Should we go for Declan Rice?  nod.gif
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too expensive... and west ham wont let him go for cheap... and his passing not really that good... we need playmaking CDM to control our tempo and declan rice is just another casemiro only...
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Oct 17 2022, 02:24 PM)
Jose won EL and League Cup in his first season..
And fans said not good enough..
Said Utd should be competing for the league..

Fast forward..
Now fans saying its okay to not getting top 4..

Damn easy being United manager nowadays..
Fans keep changing objectives to give more chances..

Have to thank Ole for successfully lowering the standard..
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managing own expectation so not to get disappointed... thats what all these years make some of the fans become... lol... but anyhow if ETH cant get anything this season, change manager again? tongue.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Oct 18 2022, 02:11 PM)
managing own expectation so not to get disappointed... thats what all these years make some of the fans become... lol... but anyhow if ETH cant get anything this season, change manager again?  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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Myself personally, one cup final.. any cup, win or lose.. prove that u can do it, prove that u deserve the time..
Many said that Arteta get the time and money, but forget that he earned it.. Arteta won FA Cup in his 1st season at Arsenal..

There is nothing wrong with removing underperforming manager and players..
Look at Frank De Boer, similar(maybe better) achievements at Ajax like ETH.. got sacked after 4 loss in a row at Palace..
Lopetegui 3 loss in a row, sacked after 5-1 humiliation against Barca..

Winner like Tuchel that contributed and proved himself should get at least another year imo.. but loser like Ole get the time instead..
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Oct 18 2022, 04:57 PM)
Myself personally, one cup final.. any cup, win or lose.. prove that u can do it, prove that u deserve the time..
Many said that Arteta get the time and money, but forget that he earned it.. Arteta won FA Cup in his 1st season at Arsenal..

There is nothing wrong with removing underperforming manager and players..
Look at Frank De Boer, similar(maybe better) achievements at Ajax like ETH.. got sacked after 4 loss in a row at Palace..
Lopetegui 3 loss in a row, sacked after 5-1 humiliation against Barca..

Winner like Tuchel that contributed and proved himself should get at least another year imo.. but loser like Ole get the time instead..
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to be fair, managers like pep and klopp also won nth during their first season in charge... and eventually they brought their team up after the correct additions made to the squad in the subsequent window... can we assume like this for ETH if lets say he reli did won nth this season?
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Oct 18 2022, 05:32 PM)
to be fair, managers like pep and klopp also won nth during their first season in charge... and eventually they brought their team up after the correct additions made to the squad in the subsequent window... can we assume like this for ETH if lets say he reli did won nth this season?
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Depends on gameplay. Every now and then, play like Brighton city then sure very fast out of patience. So far, still ok. Can come back. By far better to watch than rangnick. At least you go into the match not expecting a lose/ draw
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Depends on gameplay. Every now and then, play like Brighton city then sure very fast out of patience. So far, still ok. Can come back. By far better to watch than rangnick. At least you go into the match not expecting a lose/ draw
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Oct 18 2022, 09:27 AM)
too expensive... and west ham wont let him go for cheap... and his passing not really that good... we need playmaking CDM to control our tempo and declan rice is just another casemiro only...
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Sigh...Its hard to find good playmaking players nowadays

how many english playermaker are there as good as players like Kevin De Bruyne

Most of the playmaker players are foreign players nowadays..
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Oct 18 2022, 05:32 PM)
to be fair, managers like pep and klopp also won nth during their first season in charge... and eventually they brought their team up after the correct additions made to the squad in the subsequent window... can we assume like this for ETH if lets say he reli did won nth this season?
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Klopp got Liv to 2 finals in his 1st season, EL and League Cup..
At the very least, he proved that he can get the team to be competitive in his first season there..

Pep comes with a huge cv.. too massive to ignore.. 2 times treble winner..
This phenomenal record and also top 4 finish bought him time..
I do believe if he win nothing the following season he will be replaced..

Comparing these 2 with ETH is a stretch..

That is why for me any cup final(win or lose) and/or top 4 finish is progress..

But dont worry, ETH will get his full 3years + 1year regardless whatever outcome of every seasons..
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QUOTE(MamulaMoon @ Oct 18 2022, 07:18 PM)
Sigh...Its hard to find good playmaking players nowadays

how many english playermaker are there as good as players like Kevin De Bruyne

Most of the playmaker players are foreign players nowadays..
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buying english players are very overrated these days... look at our sancho and grealish... and our favourite captain... will not be interested with any english players anymore... lol... foreign players that played long time in EPL should be priority...
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Oct 19 2022, 12:24 AM)
Klopp got Liv to 2 finals in his 1st season, EL and League Cup..
At the very least, he proved that he can get the team to be competitive in his first season there..

Pep comes with a huge cv.. too massive to ignore.. 2 times treble winner..
This phenomenal record and also top 4 finish bought him time..
I do believe if he win nothing the following season he will be replaced..

Comparing these 2 with ETH is a stretch..

That is why for me any cup final(win or lose) and/or top 4 finish is progress..

But dont worry, ETH will get his full 3years + 1year regardless whatever outcome of every seasons..
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tbh, hard to compare last time vs now..
last time the league are less competitive as now plus "pack" season with world cup....
time are changing n the owner too....
forget the past and look for future.....

somemore need to compare the player in the squad who suitable for the manager playstyle....
frankly say, i expect ntg more than top6 in this season from the current squad....
anything more is bonus....

accept the reality the current squad are not good enough for top 4......
in addition of pack season with our "fitness record", it only gonna be worst.....

i dont really mind the standing in the table and the result.....
i jz hope the team are more fluid and understand each other movement more....
exciting + entertaining play not alway come with result (Like arsenal previously) but at least we enjoy the game....
do i enjoy winning the title even if we play badly? sadly NOT for me....


Problem with the squad
eg.the player should prepare to run more to create space for passing and help cover the others.....

1. the current squad still need to slowly scan own player after receiving the ball < more predictable/lack understanding.....
2. less forward run < stand still waiting for pass/stand nearby own player wait for the ball (blocking dribble space)
3. less passion (improved) < jog when the team are attacking/ defending....no urgency.....
4. poor squad depth < in need of playmaking CDM and striker.....not much player to choose for sub....
5. team direction < are the manager trying to make short pass team play/long pass? it get weird when u buy sancho/antony but playing crossing....+ nobody except ronaldo is good header but his age catching up..




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QUOTE(Darren @ Oct 19 2022, 07:59 PM)
tbh, hard to compare last time vs now..
last time the league are less competitive as now plus "pack" season with world cup....
time are changing n the owner too....
forget the past and look for future.....

somemore need to compare the player in the squad who suitable for the manager playstyle....
frankly say, i expect ntg more than top6 in this season from the current squad....
anything more is bonus....

accept the reality the current squad are not good enough for top 4......
in addition of pack season with our "fitness record", it only gonna be worst.....

i dont really mind the standing in the table and the result.....
i jz hope the team are more fluid and understand each other movement more....
exciting + entertaining play not alway come with result (Like arsenal previously) but at least we enjoy the game....
do i enjoy winning the title even if we play badly? sadly NOT for me....
Problem with the squad
eg.the player should prepare to run more to create space for passing and help cover the others.....

1. the current squad still need to slowly scan own player after receiving the ball < more predictable/lack understanding.....
2. less forward run < stand still waiting for pass/stand nearby own player wait for the ball (blocking dribble space)
3. less passion (improved) < jog when the team are attacking/ defending....no urgency.....
4. poor squad depth < in need of playmaking CDM and striker.....not much player to choose for sub....
5. team direction < are the manager trying to make short pass team play/long pass? it get weird when u buy sancho/antony but playing crossing....+ nobody except ronaldo is good header but his age catching up..
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Yeah..that is why whenever CR make dash runs..the mf too slow to pick up till he have to stop and start again.

This team is purely still counter attack team with both Sancho & Antony cannot deliver/beat oppo defender consistently

Passion is long gone apart for few games after the return of the viru

If they want to get rid of CR so much, they should do the same to degea too. Both players not suited for ETH game plan.

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UNITED XI

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Substitutes: Heaton, Lindelof, Malacia, Eriksen, McTominay, Pellistri, Elanga, Garnacho, Ronaldo.

Erik ten Hag makes one change from the side that drew with Newcastle on Sunday, as Marcus Rashford comes in for Cristiano Ronaldo in attack.

Christian Eriksen returns to the bench having missed the game against the Magpies, whilst Scott McTominay is also recalled after serving his one-match suspension.
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Haiz ... Fred again.
It is either we lost or a draw.
No chance to win with Fred as no.8

I still blame Ten Hag for not giving a single minutes to Zidane after the season start.
If not can have him playing for 20 ~ 30 mins.

Although Eriksen is back from sickness, don't think he can make it even as substitution.
Ten Hag put him on bench mainly for morale boost only.
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European Super League is back on the news again. They release a statement that they are going to relaunch it back in 2024/2025. No wonder Glazers still relax even when the club financial is in red.
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Expecting another sloopy passes night

How many times sancho failed to control a ball already

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Counter vs counter so far..
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3-4 pass Spurs can get into United box, happen twice now..
Thank god they are wasteful..

That one nice through ball from Fred..
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Hugo having a superman game tonight
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Fred is on top form so far, but then he started to do something he shouldn't do.
Long shoot with right leg, haiz ...
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We are playing well, hopefully we can score to capitalize.
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Oct 20 2022, 03:49 AM)
Rashford should've scored that clear cut chance..
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u know what.. i think the FA really want to destroy man utd .. ball hit face, free kick... when hit MU face, advantage.. awesome


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QUOTE(simmarjit @ Oct 20 2022, 03:57 AM)
We are playing well, hopefully we can score to capitalize.
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Really well.. must not waste it..
So many interception.. Spurs cant get their flow going..

Casemiro been class..
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Before half time end, the players already have no more strength to keep the intensity.

If no fresh leg is introduced in this match, then I really dunno what Ten Hag is thinking.
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Rashford shooting really cannot.
With so much space, he choose to shoot directly to the goalie.
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Fred!!!
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Pastor Fred proving his haters wrong
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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Oct 20 2022, 04:09 AM)
Rashford shooting really cannot.
With so much space, he choose to shoot directly to the goalie.
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he can miss 10 in a game without the media rage
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Fred tonight so powderful.. and Sancho made too many mistakes
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This Bissouma is way different than when he was at Brighton.. gone from solid to worse..
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Antony and Dalot is not a good combination, they are so lack of chemistry.
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Goool BF
fred again

fred motm lol

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Goooaall nice assistfrom Dier..
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Fred MOTM with deflected goal, deflected assist not pun intended lolxx

Rashford oooo rashford when you gonna score?
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Fred MOTM with deflected goal, deflected assist not pun intended lolxx

Rashford oooo rashford when you gonna score?
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I am gonna say it again, Rashford every time goes for power, but not angle.
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QUOTE(areankim @ Oct 20 2022, 04:44 AM)
Fred MOTM with deflected goal, deflected assist not pun intended lolxx

Rashford oooo rashford when you gonna score?
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Lol he might very well be the MOTM..

Rashford shoot straight at keeper again..
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Rashford doesn't use his head. Always go for power nowadays. Wasted so many chances.
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One more to kill the game off lets gooo..
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Actually Shud sub off Sancho, he is not suitable in counter attack
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Oct 20 2022, 04:47 AM)
Lol he might very well be the MOTM..

Rashford shoot straight at keeper again..
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Hugo mcm hate rashford, semua kasi save
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QUOTE(even_steven @ Oct 20 2022, 04:48 AM)
Rashford doesn't use his head. Always go for power nowadays. Wasted so many chances.
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Rashford Always knuckle knuckle , just passed it like carrick into corners

Fred should also pass into corner, easier to score for him if it’s a pass

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rashford is always cut in, far post for this game
he scored more when it is cut in, near post
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Come on Ten Hag, opponent sub in 3 fresh leg.
U are not gonna sub in more?
Sancho really can be sub off.
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Hmm ... winning 2 goals yes.
But sub off a DM while winning, hmm ..
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Ronaldo left game before full time. Sure hot topic later again!
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better performance this game
keep it up
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Ronaldo leaving before match over. The last this happen Ten Hag made everyone know he wasn’t happy. Aikssss

He probably gonna get some stick. You can’t do that, no matter how a big star u are. And you cant say that is passion

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Great 3points.. good performance..
Defensive line super tight.. Kane and Son kept quite all day..

Credit where credit is due..
ETH got it right.. OT is a hard place to come to play for visitors again so far..

Minimum 6 points from these 3 matches.. less than that is poor.. lets go United
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QUOTE(areankim @ Oct 20 2022, 05:09 AM)
Ronaldo leaving before match over. The last this happen Ten Hag made everyone know he wasn’t happy. Aikssss

He probably gonna get some stick. You can’t do that, no matter how a big star u are. And you cant say that is passion
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yeah nobody is bigger than club
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Spurs sucks as usual... Meh.... 🤣🤣 If rashy can take all the chances... Spurs will have a hell day already... Kane and son totally invisible... Thank god... Fred pressing like crazy this match... Have a reliable cdm behind you is totally different feeling...
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Most players generally performed well.
Tbh, Newcastle defence seems better than Tottenham.
We actually didn't had clear cut chance against Newcastle, but we did against Tottenham.

Improvement made

1) Ten Hag understand quickly that, Fred is definitely not a good control midfielder, and thus play him in position where he flourished last season with Rangnick.
The main job is to press opponent defence and DM, which worked well.

2) More calm and confident to handle pressing from opponent team.



Issues to be solved.

1) Martinez still made 1 or 2 mistakes, I hope he get rest.
But seems difficult since no replacement.

2) Antony and Dalot has absolutely zero chemistry.
Sure Ten Hag knew it, let's see how he is gonna solve it.

3) Forward issue. CR7 is too slow. Rashford is too wasteful. Martial is too injury prone. Really headache.

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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Oct 20 2022, 05:38 AM)
Most players generally performed well.
Tbh, Newcastle defence seems better than Tottenham.
We actually didn't had clear cut chance against Newcastle, but we did against Tottenham.

Improvement made

1) Ten Hag understand quickly that, Fred is definitely not a good control midfielder, and thus play him in position where he flourished last season with Rangnick.
The main job is to press opponent defence and DM, which worked well.

2) More calm and confident to handle pressing from opponent team.
Issues to be solved.

1) Martinez still made 1 or 2 mistakes, I hope he get rest.
But seems difficult since no replacement.

2) Antony and Dalot has absolutely zero chemistry.
Sure Ten Hag knew it, let's see how he is gonna solve it.

3) Forward issue. CR7 is too slow. Rashford is too wasteful. Martial is too injury prone. Really headache.
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Antony is one leg dimension player, now I think most of the defenders know how to mark him already. He can’t crossed cuz his right leg was sucks, he only know how to use his left leg to shoot, that’s it

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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Oct 20 2022, 06:18 AM)
Antony is one leg dimension player, now I think most of the defenders know how to mark him already. He can’t crossed cuz his right leg was sucks, he only know how to use his left leg to shoot, that’s it
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Its alright if his partner wing-back can overlap and cross.. but looking like both also prefer to cut inside.. Shaw too..

Dont know why dont wanna explore crossing across the goal instead of towards the corner of the goal.. usually ended up in goalkick..
At least got some variety.. crossing across the goal have chance of recovering the clearance ball and continue recycle it..
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As probably Rashford's biggest critic here, he put in a good performance. He got into positions and had his shots on target.
Lloris had a MOTM performance.

Controlled performance built on a quietly excellent defence. One goal conceded in our last 3 PL games?
Getting the basics right.

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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Oct 20 2022, 02:33 AM)
Haiz ... Fred again.
It is either we lost or a draw.
No chance to win with Fred as no.8

Bro
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Finally see something worthy from this team?

How about that performance from Bruno? A 9/10 for me. He needs to keep this up.
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Rashford always chose power over placement.

Defenders are tight, Kane and Son had a quite night.

The 1st half are almost perfect, only without a good finish.

Casemiro and Fred did well together.

Probably the best performance of the season or the most exciting one, at least I did not felt sleepy throughout the game.
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QUOTE(Daimoku @ Oct 20 2022, 08:12 AM)
If u got play football u will know why people should towards goalie...lol
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When we went 2-0 up i kinda hope CR7 would come on but it didnt happen, if not gonna sub him on, at least sub some kids on like Garnacho etc, did we really need to sub on Eriksen?

Either way solid performance, confident display from DDG, Martinez was an absolute beast, Fred was everywhere his engine is crazy, both Sancho and Antony had some good moments, Rashford should have had a goal or two.
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Oct 20 2022, 06:18 AM)
Antony is one leg dimension player, now I think most of the defenders know how to mark him already. He can’t crossed cuz his right leg was sucks, he only know how to use his left leg to shoot, that’s it
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like our ex captain valencia... lol... but anyhow lets see how ETH resolve this in time to come... either he flopped or bcum next robben... the legendary one legged winger...
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QUOTE(simmarjit @ Oct 20 2022, 08:52 AM)
When we went 2-0 up i kinda hope CR7 would come on but it didnt happen, if not gonna sub him on, at least sub some kids on like Garnacho etc, did we really need to sub on Eriksen?

Either way solid performance, confident display from DDG, Martinez was an absolute beast, Fred was everywhere his engine is crazy, both Sancho and Antony had some good moments, Rashford should have had a goal or two.
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well, this is ETH first season... he rather spend his time experimenting on senior players first... and elanga also long time didnt come out dy... he did give him his chance... ronaldo is really old already whether we like it or not... and ETH being ruthless is up to his strategy implementation... there are reasons why we are not the manager biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(and85rew @ Oct 19 2022, 09:51 PM)
Yeah..that is why whenever CR make dash runs..the mf too slow to pick up till he have to stop and start again.

This team is purely still counter attack team with both Sancho & Antony cannot deliver/beat oppo defender consistently

Passion is long gone apart for few games after the return of the viru

If they want to get rid of CR so much, they should do the same to degea too. Both players not suited for ETH game plan.
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yeah....
the team are wasting on CR forward sprint instinct.....
he might lack of his pace but his instinct sprint and respond are definitely too high for current team....
the only player can match his play only fernandes but u cant expect the same combo doing the same day in day out without the opponent realise....
not to say that fernandes are kinda out of form lately.....

so i would like to see ronaldo leaving during jan for his own good n the team.....


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IMO Fred should mold his game similarly to Park Ji Sung, if he has the stamina to press throughout matches.

As for Antony, I think Elanga has more range in his abilities. Fancy dribbling alone isn't going to get him far if he's getting predictable. Hope he improves. Plus Sancho is probably suffering from high expectations like what happened to Depay. Got the skills but couldn't express freely

For Ronaldo, I think he should get used to being used sparingly like what we did with Cavani or Ibra. Just make sure he's impactful when playing and that's up to him too.
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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Oct 20 2022, 05:01 AM)
Hmm ... winning 2 goals yes.
But sub off a DM while winning, hmm ..
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Definitely to rest him for Chelsea game.
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Oct 20 2022, 07:38 AM)
As probably Rashford's biggest critic here, he put in a good performance. He got into positions and had his shots on target.
Lloris had a MOTM performance.

Controlled performance built on a quietly excellent defence. One goal conceded in our last 3 PL games?
Getting the basics right.
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Agree. He was among the better performers in this game.

But people based the striker's performance on goals scored, he didn't.

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Man United are improving under Ten Hag, but their progress risks stalling unless the club can find a proven goal scorer in the next two transfers windows. Although United desperately need a centre-forward at the peak of his powers in January, the £220 million summer spending spree means that a big signing is highly unlikely in the winter window, but they simply cannot start next season without addressing the long-standing issue of a lack of a world-class goal scorer.

Source

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QUOTE(EightPhantomz @ Oct 20 2022, 10:48 AM)
But people based the striker's performance on goals scored, he didn't.
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Well, personally I don't gauge based on goals scored as I think goals scored is a byproduct of an overall performance. You can have a 9 out of 10 performance and not score. Making all the right runs to pull defenders away to create space for your team to move into, pinning defenders, pressure play are all unappreciated dimensions that the stats do not show. But generally if you are good, over the period of an entire season, a good striker should see goals coming his way.

I have a different view of the article which says United will stall without a striker and is why.

This season is a season of transition for Manchester United. This usually means the consistency isn't there as the team adapts to a new style of play. I think I wrote this at the start of the season. What we will see in the first half of the season is where the team can play really badly one game but somehow perform well in another. This is normal. Which is why I don't throw criticism ETH's way when we lose unlike Ole, because I understand the progression he is trying to do.

Let's rewind back to the 0-4 loss to Brentford. Teams are built from the back. So the first area ETH needed to work on is the defence. Midfield and Forwards can wait.
In the 5 games since, minus the City game as an outlier, our defence has been quite solid. The solid backline then allows distribution and pressure play to be built on. Defence done, and we can see ETH working on the midfield next. Yes Eriksen was tried in CDM but got found out against higher level opponents. Casemiro was slotted in and Fred is finding his new feet in a Ten Hag system. We can see the midfield slowly forming.

I don't worry about our forwards yet because our issue is that we don't create enough chances for our forwards. Solving our midfield will be one step in that direction. If we regularly feed Ronaldo 6 chances a game and he misses them all, then yes we need a new striker. So we are still in the midfield building stage. Once you have a solid midfield, this frees Fernandes up to link play for the forwards instead of dropping deep and try Hollywood passes.

Do we need a forward in January?

Not the top of my list. What we need is another midfielder in Jan. We need midfield reinforcements because if Casemiro gets injured, we are screwed. If Eriksen gets injured, we will feel it. Then it is back to McFred and our entire midfield goes for a toss. My preferred player is to revisit FDJ so complete our midfield trio. Casemiro-FDJ at the base, Fernandes/Eriksen at the tip. Finish the season by having a strong defence and midfield.

During the summer transfer window, Ronaldo is going to go and Rashford is in his last year of the contract. That's when we look at new strikers.


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spurs match is a good example of all round pressure up front and we play most of the time at opponent field... fred and casemiro energy definitely contributed to this as eriksen cant press the way fred does... fred and bruno also did alot more simple passes upfront... and casemiro quietly doing his job effectively... casemiro definitely doing alot more of passing jobs in man utd compared to his RM time as he have to take the mantle to make our whole team progress forward by doing more forward passes himself...
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Btw, We need Sancho to be more consistent...
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Some of fans doubted about Casemiro 70M price tag.
We all glad it did works well now.
We definitely don't want another Maguire.

Yes, it is a short term solution, but that is exactly what we need in rebuilding.
Experienced veteran and leader to lead the team.

I think he still at least has 1 or 2 more season.
Within this period, need to buy youngster to develop.

Tbh, McTom has improved this season, but skill wise he really doesn't has much to offer.
Thus only okay to be a replacement / fresh leg.

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we need to sort out ronaldo issue as soon as possible.

edit: just sell him fast, quite annoyed with him and his ego

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They pretty much sum it all up about CR last night (this morning) doh.gif

He can't be seriously expecting to start / compulsory to come on as sub every single game? Can't see him continue staying if he continue to behave such.....
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QUOTE(simmarjit @ Oct 20 2022, 08:52 AM)
When we went 2-0 up i kinda hope CR7 would come on but it didnt happen, if not gonna sub him on, at least sub some kids on like Garnacho etc, did we really need to sub on Eriksen?

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we need to sort out ronaldo issue as soon as possible.

edit: just sell him fast, quite annoyed with him and his ego
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The most obvious way I think of resolving the situation is a mutual termination release in Jan. The style of play the team is evolving into doesn't really suit him this season.
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Haha back in winning ways laugh.gif rclxms.gif

Bet the world cup made the fixture more topkek than 2020 punya fixture laugh.gif rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(alien2003 @ Oct 20 2022, 03:43 PM)


They pretty much sum it all up about CR last night (this morning)  doh.gif

He can't be seriously expecting to start / compulsory to come on as sub every single game? Can't see him continue staying if he continue to behave such.....
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some of these pundits are damn #@^!*@#^*!@.

didn't they read the full report on what actually happened

CR7 said he tahan kencing for so long, until cannot tahan already. cannot wait for the final whistle. Therefore he might as well go to the toilet and kencing since the game is going to end anyway.

korang thought he need to ask ETH like you ask your cikgu darjah "Cikgu, kencing!?"

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Oct 20 2022, 04:35 PM)
some of these pundits are damn #@^!*@#^*!@.

didn't they read the full report on what actually happened

CR7 said he tahan kencing for so long, until cannot tahan already.  cannot wait for the final whistle.  Therefore he might as well go to the toilet and kencing since the game is going to end anyway.

korang thought he need to ask ETH like you ask your cikgu darjah "Cikgu, kencing!?"
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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Oct 20 2022, 04:35 PM)
some of these pundits are damn #@^!*@#^*!@.

didn't they read the full report on what actually happened

CR7 said he tahan kencing for so long, until cannot tahan already.  cannot wait for the final whistle.  Therefore he might as well go to the toilet and kencing since the game is going to end anyway.

korang thought he need to ask ETH like you ask your cikgu darjah "Cikgu, kencing!?"
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I am not sure which "report" is true then..... but IF he indeed left OT altogether then this is very disrespectful to his teammates, let alone the manager / club itself....


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QUOTE(alien2003 @ Oct 20 2022, 05:21 PM)
I am not sure which "report" is true then..... but IF he indeed left OT altogether then this is very disrespectful to his teammates, let alone the manager / club itself....

Just kidding bro

since he is unhappy, please sell him in Jan (provided got clubs want to sign him up).

no one is bigger than the club.
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Just kidding bro

since he is unhappy, please sell him in Jan (provided got clubs want to sign him up).

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Its a power play from both ETH and CR7.. both wanna flex..

ETH started it publicly after Newcastle match..



254 winning goals record and subbed out at 72min in a 0-0 match.. and asked to prove himself..
All good, then next match watching Rashford couldnt score and get to stay 90min..
Thought only those that prove themselves get to play..

Of course the guy gonna react.. he got massive ego.. not saying that what CR7 did was right..
He probably felt disrespected publicly and he reacted.. not right.. but not out of nowhere..

Whether CR7 walked out or not it is clear that he and ETH got problems with each other already..

Yes CR7 should go as soon as possible, for free..
He deserve this at least.. he proved himself before, won the club so many trophies back to back, won games with his individual brilliance countless times..

Shall see whether ETH can do the same.. flexing big balls better come with results to back it up..
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kesian ronaldo, the spotlight keep focus on him since transfer window... but ETH chill je, not pressure to start him at all... in fact just bench him the whole match lagi... lol... if is ole... he sure will start him regardless of his form dy...
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Oct 20 2022, 05:59 PM)
Its a power play from both ETH and CR7.. both wanna flex..

ETH started it publicly after Newcastle match..



254 winning goals record and subbed out at 72min in a 0-0 match.. and asked to prove himself..
All good, then next match watching Rashford couldnt score and get to stay 90min..
Thought only those that prove themselves get to play..

Of course the guy gonna react.. he got massive ego.. not saying that what CR7 did was right..
He probably felt disrespected publicly and he reacted.. not right.. but not out of nowhere..

Whether CR7 walked out or not it is clear that he and ETH got problems with each other already..

Yes CR7 should go as soon as possible, for free..
He deserve this at least.. he proved himself before, won the club so many trophies back to back, won games with his individual brilliance countless times..

Shall see whether ETH can do the same.. flexing big balls better come with results to back it up..
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well it doesnt matter in the end... since the couple is not working, just break up... rather than tie up for the unhappiness.. lol... i thought we wish the team to won through team effort and not based on his individual brilliance? biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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Almost forget, a really important thing in rebuilding or even after rebuilt.
Don't deal with greedy agents and players under them. Never.
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chelsea game, ronaldo to start then score winning goal
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Oct 20 2022, 06:02 PM)
well it doesnt matter in the end... since the couple is not working, just break up... rather than tie up for the unhappiness.. lol... i thought we wish the team to won through team effort and not based on his individual brilliance?  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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You need both to be happening consistently right?.. not over reliance on one only..

United 2007/2008 was full of team effort, but some of the times those special player stepped up big time to save the day..
That season UCL final against Chelsea, if VDS didnt come up with his individual brilliance saving those pens.. the night would've been not lovely at all..
Whole team defended tremendously, parking the bus in the 1st leg of semi.. but without that superb strike out of nowhere from Scholesy against Barca in the 2nd leg wouldnt help the team get to the final..

All im saying is since CR7 have proved himself and contributed greatly.. let him go for free, why still insist wanna make money out of him?
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Oct 20 2022, 06:38 PM)
You need both to be happening consistently right?.. not over reliance on one only..

United 2007/2008 was full of team effort, but some of the times those special player stepped up big time to save the day..
That season UCL final against Chelsea, if VDS didnt come up with his individual brilliance saving those pens.. the night would've been not lovely at all..
Whole team defended tremendously, parking the bus in the 1st leg of semi.. but without that superb strike out of nowhere from Scholesy against Barca in the 2nd leg wouldnt help the team get to the final..

All im saying is since CR7 have proved himself and contributed greatly.. let him go for free, why still insist wanna make money out of him?
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Oct 20 2022, 06:00 PM)
kesian ronaldo, the spotlight keep focus on him since transfer window... but ETH chill je, not pressure to start him at all... in fact just bench him the whole match lagi... lol... if is ole... he sure will start him regardless of his form dy...
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Have a sneaky feeling that it was ronaldo (probably whisper to the glazers ears) who got ole sack last season.

Remember how giddy he was when rangnick came in?

As much as i love Ronaldo like we all do he has to go as soon as the transfer windows open. The guy is becoming a poison chalice and last night tantrum was unforgivable. The disrespect he showed towards eth well if it was fergie at the helm he would have no problem landing a hook on him.

Well remembering back that 08-09 season when he and tevez wanted out. It was so deflating to be a united fan back then.
Undoubtedly the 2nd best team in the world and all we had to showed for was a young valencia and the washed out michael owen.

Can't forgive him for that 😂
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Oct 20 2022, 06:32 PM)
chelsea game, ronaldo to start then score winning goal
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Errrmmm.... not going to happen it seems blink.gif

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/63337723

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Cristiano Ronaldo will not be part of Manchester United's squad for Saturday's game at Chelsea.

The Portugal forward left Old Trafford before the end of Wednesday's 2-0 Premier League win over Tottenham - for which he was an unused substitute.

"The rest of the squad is fully focused on preparing for that fixture," a club statement said.

United say the 37-year-old remains an important part of the squad but regard this as a disciplinary matter.

The game he will miss at Stamford Bridge is a big one, with United just one point behind fourth-placed Chelsea.

Several media outlets are reporting he refused to come on as a late sub against Spurs.

Ronaldo left the bench and walked down the tunnel in the 89th minute, even though United had only made three of their permitted five substitutions. He briefly went into the dressing room before leaving the stadium.


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If my memory right, this is the best performance under eth. High intensity all over the park until 80th mins. When out of clue, shoot saja la. I like that. Not pass left pass right then lose ball. We have so many shots attempt.

Sancho Anthony track back relentlessly when spurs attacking. And can see, they take on defenders too especially Anthony. Guess Scholes/rio words affect them.

Fred very good upfront. Rashford unlucky not to score. At 1 time, he took on 2 defenders and shoot on target. Got mbappe feel there.

I really hope Ronaldo pergi tandas. Sigh. If behave like this, he better leave for mutual good. Rashford this season played better than him. Can't say eth didn't give him starting chance
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QUOTE(alien2003 @ Oct 21 2022, 01:18 AM)
Errrmmm.... not going to happen it seems  blink.gif

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/63337723
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Lol CR7 join Greenwood on suspension..
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Wonderful news for me as a fan despite me being one of CR7's biggest fans.
Nobody should be bigger than the manager at a club and I absolutely love that the manager is showing balls in handling the situation.

Remember last season where the dressing room rift was between two camps, the British core led by Maguire and the others led by CR7.
Today, both find themselves out. I recall the biggest question at the start of the season was surrounding Maguire. Some even said if ETH drops Maguire, they would already be happy for the entire season. Well, the manager has indeed axed the Captain and now suspends probably the biggest personality in world football.

Continue to back the manager.
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Last time when I called CR7 a problem in the squad i kena bash left right up down and center

Lol

New rumor is that he refused to come on as substitute thats why he cabut

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Board backing eth the manager this time. Hope they learnt the jomo lesson.

Cr probably need to take the chill pill and play sub for the team for at least until next window
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At least he is a little bit contrite. I love CR7 to bits, and his actions DID diminish the love bank.

Remember guys, ETH is NOT saying we need to move CR7 out. He is just dealing it fairly and humanly. We must back this. No need to CR7 out or whatever. He is still even being decent to Maguire as well, but to be fair Lord Harry has behaved well throughout.

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Now Maguire and Ronaldo are both out. But in January we seriously need to get a striker. Rashford missing too many chances and can't convert shots to goals easily.
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haiz.. ETH wanna keep him during summer and all these episodes happened after that... not sure ETH regretted keeping him or not... lol... anyhow... doubt any team with european competition will be able to afford to sign him... unless he reduce his wages significantly for those small clubs still in UCL...
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Oct 21 2022, 09:26 AM)
haiz.. ETH wanna keep him during summer and all these episodes happened after that... not sure ETH regretted keeping him or not... lol... anyhow... doubt any team with european competition will be able to afford to sign him... unless he reduce his wages significantly for those small clubs still in UCL...
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Chelsea ma. Boehly playing fantasy football.

I think who start who bench seems merited. Casemiro plays well, he start. Because of competition, rashford did up his game. Now no competition again, rashford can relax
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Oct 21 2022, 10:21 AM)
Chelsea ma. Boehly playing fantasy football.

I think who start who bench seems merited. Casemiro plays well, he start. Because of competition, rashford did up his game. Now no competition again, rashford can relax
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tuchel tak mau... dunno this january, this new potter coach mau or not... typical US owner... wan make money je... ronaldo reli gt form or not is another matter...

rashy is playing better just that his finishing sucks as always... lol... it takes good positional awareness to get those ball and to shoot on target... this season ronaldo cant even connect to those balls with his teammates... but ETH never bench bruno also a problem when he did play badly few matches... but with casemiro and fred combo... we can see he is getting all the freedom to focus on his CAM role... while with casemiro/eriksen combo, bruno will always drop deep to help defend and do hollywood passes again...

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De Jong has been in starting line up for barca recently, his name shldnt be mentioned anymore in this page, we don’t need players that are not willing to come, learnt the lesson from DiMaria, sanchez, Lukaku
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so during the tottenham game, ETH wants to bring ronaldo on, but he refuses?!

wow... refuses to come on and then walk down the tunnel before game ended. haizzzzz , well deserved punishment. hope he comes back scoring like crazy

"Manchester United confirmed that Cristiano Ronaldo will be not be part of the first team squad to face Chelsea after he refused to come on as a substitute against Tottenham."
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QUOTE(MrBlackie33 @ Oct 21 2022, 12:24 PM)
De Jong has been in starting line up for barca recently, his name shldnt be mentioned anymore in this page, we don’t need players that are not willing to come, learnt the lesson from DiMaria, sanchez, Lukaku
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new season started until now, can see xavi still prefer busquet on the first team lineup... fdj mostly come in as sub... if not mistaken, so far he macam only started 5-6 matches for barca only... considering so many matches have played for both la liga and UCL...
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Oct 21 2022, 12:38 PM)
new season started until now, can see xavi still prefer busquet on the first team lineup... fdj mostly come in as sub... if not mistaken, so far he macam only started 5-6 matches for barca only... considering so many matches have played for both la liga and UCL...
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Anyway have to wait till summer coz mutok keep mentioning they won’t spend in winter, and barca will be looking for busquet replacement by that time


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With busquet out of form after el Classico match, will be interesting to see whether de Jong can retain in starting 11

Anyway have to wait till summer coz mutok keep mentioning they won’t spend in winter, and barca will be looking for busquet replacement by that time
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yea dont think will get anything during jan... especially if ETH is performing well before jan, they lagi wont panic buying.. and they spent too much to buy antony dy this summer...
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QUOTE(areankim @ Oct 21 2022, 12:29 PM)
so during the tottenham game, ETH wants to bring ronaldo on, but he refuses?!

wow... refuses to come on and then walk down the tunnel before game ended. haizzzzz , well deserved punishment. hope he comes back scoring like crazy

"Manchester United confirmed that Cristiano Ronaldo will be not be part of the first team squad to face Chelsea after he refused to come on as a substitute against Tottenham."
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He still think he is main man, cannot accept be as squad player. In this sense cavani zlatan behave alot better. The fact spus game is our best performance and he walking out made it doesn't looks good x2.

You can't be bigger than the manager if the manager keep winning. If its rr or ole and we are losing end, I am sure many will support ronaldo.

While he is one of my fav, it seems really looks like bad return. Going city, he can be haaland.
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Oct 21 2022, 02:03 PM)
He still think he is main man, cannot accept be as squad player. In this sense cavani zlatan behave alot better. The fact spus game is our best performance and he walking out made it doesn't looks good x2.

You can't be bigger than the manager if the manager keep winning. If its rr or ole and we are losing end, I am sure many will support ronaldo.

While he is one of my fav, it seems really looks like bad return. Going city, he can be haaland.
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support him and support the club is two different thing haha... wish he can just leave and get better life... and at the same time dont affect the morale of the squad anymore... he dont have form is also a truth... not something that ETH created out of thin air... lol
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Oct 21 2022, 02:28 PM)
support him and support the club is two different thing haha... wish he can just leave and get better life... and at the same time dont affect the morale of the squad anymore... he dont have form is also a truth... not something that ETH created out of thin air... lol
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hopefully tmr we can sapu another london team... and london is truly red.... manchester red.... lol... will be quite interesting whether ETH wanna revenge against potter new team after brighton hentam us during first match of the season...
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Oct 21 2022, 12:15 PM)
but ETH never bench bruno also a problem when he did play badly few matches...
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QUOTE(DarkWan @ Oct 21 2022, 06:08 PM)
Luke Shaw said recently that EtH didn't practice favoritism. I guess EtH didn't have an option (to not play Bruno) at the moment. I will wait until Eriksen, or even VDB to fully fit (and Bruno sucks) until I am putting in another opinion. Remember that he keep playing McTom because Case wasn't ready until recently.
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true also... let us see how... VDB really aduh, he didnt play any matches also can get injured... ETH his saviour came also he dont have chance to play... gonna be sold next summer dy...
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Oct 21 2022, 06:12 PM)
true also... let us see how... VDB really aduh, he didnt play any matches also can get injured... ETH his saviour came also he dont have chance to play... gonna be sold next summer dy...
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No luck player

But bruno starting week in and out means United will never be able to reach top class level/competitor
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Oct 21 2022, 06:04 PM)
hopefully tmr we can sapu another london team... and london is truly red.... manchester red.... lol... will be quite interesting whether ETH wanna revenge against potter new team after brighton hentam us during first match of the season...
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Now with Chelsea, an upgrade to his ex Brighton team, Chelsea started to perform but still far away from being Potter’s way.

Hope ETH can revenge on Potter for this round
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Manchester United manager Erik ten Hag on Saturday's game at Chelsea: "The talk is between Cristiano and me. The statement is clear. It is also in the statement that he remains an important part of the squad.

"I am the manager, I am responsible for the culture here. I have to set standards and values and have to control them. We are in a team.

"We miss him tomorrow, that is a miss for us and the squad, but I think it is important for the attitude and mentality of the group and now we have to focus on Chelsea - that is the most important."


https://www.bbc.com/sport/live/football/63340766

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Manchester United manager Erik ten Hag has said there "has to be consequences" after confirming Cristiano Ronaldo refused to come on as a substitute against Tottenham on Wednesday.

Ronaldo, 37, left Old Trafford before full-time after leaving the bench and walking down the tunnel in the 89th minute of United's 2-0 win.

He has been dropped for Saturday's game at Chelsea and is training alone.

Asked directly whether Ronaldo refused to come on, Ten Hag said: "Yes."

He added that after the Portugal international did the same at half-time of the friendly against Rayo Vallecano in pre-season, he felt he had to act.

"The talk is between Cristiano and me. The statement is clear. It is also in the statement that he remains an important part of the squad," Ten Hag said.

"I am the manager, I am responsible for the culture here. I have to set standards and values and have to control them. We are in a team.

"After Rayo Vallecano, I said it was unacceptable, but it wasn't just him. The second time there has to be consequences. That is what has happened.

"We miss him tomorrow, that is a miss for us and the squad, but I think it is important for the attitude and mentality of the group and now we have to focus on Chelsea - that is the most important."


https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/63345292

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Reece James out injured.. left wing should be able to take advantage..
Less possibility for deadly crosses coming from that side also..
Kante out too..

6 points from this 3 games bare minimum.. lets make it happen..
Less than that is just poor..
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So the better henderson won
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Oct 22 2022, 09:27 PM)
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Ten Hag chose to be safe toward the lineup.

I expect Dalot will be struggle against Chiwell / Cucurella and Sterling, as he always against speed type of winger.

Tbh, I expect Ten Hag will be bold and put Malacia to replace Dalot as lineup, as Malacia is slightly better dealing with speed type of winger.
Just like Arteta put Tomiyasu to deal with Salah.
Yet as I said, Ten Hag seems only will become bold in lineup change after heavy defeat.

This match won't be easy even opponent without prime Kante and Reece James.

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Should stop trying to pass it into the net
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rashford shouldnt take free kicks la. bagi eriksen je
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rashford shouldnt take free kicks la. bagi eriksen je
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Watching this on astro uhd channel

Noticed Chilwell appear on the screen like he's in a FIFA computer game. Lol.



Anyway I don't quite like antony's mouth, keeps on telling off his team mates.
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Corner tactic macam tak boleh
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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Oct 23 2022, 12:59 AM)
Watching this on astro uhd channel

Noticed Chilwell appear on the screen like he's in a FIFA computer game.  Lol.
Anyway I don't quite like antony's mouth, keeps on telling off his team mates.
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the referee oso don't like antony. Yellow card. laugh.gif
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the referee oso don't like antony. Yellow card.  laugh.gif
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He deserved that yellow for that challenge. And the way he jeling at the referee, lol.
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Chelsea substitute so early, they couldn’t get control of the ball
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We don’t take our early chances , potter subs changes the shape and now it’s a midfield batttle

Ohhhh I thot that’s in from anthony
RW - With weak right foot 😅😅

Rashford Anthony both have chances to score

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Antony should score that
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Potter quite smart, one early sub when they lost most of the possession then they able to control back the middle.
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Super wasteful.. should've capitalized and leading 2-0..

Potter changes get them a lil bit more control in the midfield.. but it might made them more vulnerable to counter attack..

Casemiro 1st half man of the match.. top class..
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Chelsea is bad before Kovacic came in, and we didn't utilize it.
Reason, still no chemistry between Dalot and Antony.
Sancho not good enough.
Rashford is wasteful

All old issues ...
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Potter is so responsive by making substitution, but Ten Hag ...
Sancho was so bad, he shud be off.
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Well, the earliest tactical substitution from Ten Hag?
Good.
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Sancho is breaking down everything on the left
Rightly sub, but now it’s going to be narrow and we gonna lost width

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Varane really glass man
Cannot use him too much
WC dream is over… he already knew it, cried big time

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Alamak.. Varane out..
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From his reaction it looks serious enough to miss World Cup
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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Oct 23 2022, 01:45 AM)
From his reaction it looks serious enough to miss World Cup
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U feel a knock in your knee right up to your pelvic area
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No Reece James also cannot terrorize that left side..

They missing many key players.. must not let this slip..
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From his reaction, he knew his WC dream is over
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And we should beware of counter with the pacy players Chelsea has
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Could be a 0-0 draw again. We did not make the most of it.

Our bench full on youngster.
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worry for varane.. i think wc gone
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Oct 23 2022, 01:50 AM)
worry for varane.. i think wc gone
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Oct 23 2022, 01:52 AM)
See him cried like that, he already knew it
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sad. him n martinez real solid
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Gonna give Potter credit


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Eriksen out of steam
Who can sub in? Iqbal!!!
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Our bench surely cant do worse than Rashford?
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Already not sure whether after Sancho off or Varane off, Chelsea dominate
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Both team not eager to win, satisfied for draw.
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So Fred gonna play further up. Mcsauce + Casemiro

Bruno central…
Elanga left

Lolxxx our bench runs so thin
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QUOTE(areankim @ Oct 23 2022, 02:08 AM)
So Fred gonna play further up. Mcsauce + Casemiro

Bruno central…
Elanga left

Lolxxx our bench runs so thin
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Ole time - McFred double DM
ETH time - McFred double AM

LOL
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QUOTE(areankim @ Oct 23 2022, 02:08 AM)
So Fred gonna play further up. Mcsauce + Casemiro

Bruno central…
Elanga left

Lolxxx our bench runs so thin
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i would love to see some youngsters come in. Previous games when winning also didnt sub them in.. waste
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Don’t know what Elanga doing…
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After the subs our passing is terrible.
No wonder ETH doesn’t wanna change lolxx

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Dafuq lol

Now 1 point oso cant get unless DDG saves it

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We lost the game ourselves, truly.
Chelsea not deserve the win, but it is bcuz we didn't utilize it.
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Potter 2 - 0 ETH

Hug ppl for 3 seconds sure kena la

If he just hugged and let go, then got chances ref can’t see it

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Ten Hag really need to solve the Antony + Dalot no chemistry issue.

He also not giving enough chance to Zidane.
When Eriksen is not on form, and Fred unable to be on his top form once in a blue moon, then no other no.8

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Should have just killed the game during first half

So we only have ourselves to blame
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FredTom sub screwed up
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All started from Elanga stupid miskick at top left there. Then proceed to kena attack then corner. Haih. High blood pressure watch this kind of game… if kena dominate whole game and totally outplayed then lose ok la. Zzzzzzzzz
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Casemiro 5 times UCL winner saving the serial loser McT..
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A point is better than none

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Tbh, draw is a fair result.
But ... Ten Hag pls solve the winger issue.
We are not utilize width, we are so narrow in midfield.
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Both wing is useless...both cut in to shoot..0 supply..zz
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Too poor.. Chelsea were there for the taking.. they are not good at all..
Not just let them get back in the game, let them control the game..

ETH slow response again.. still in Eredivisie settings..
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I don’t blame Elanga, he sub in last few moments did run thru opponents as compared to Sancho, who did nothing….
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Sancho rubbish. Last week good, this week rubbish. Not only can't create, sloppy pass from him nearly give chelsea goal.

Mctom stupid. Grab until like that.

Kesian varane cry until like that. Our def shit liao no varane. Ole time also bolos like nobody biz until got sack because varane injured that period + kapitan playing.

Cr7 also zzz, throw tantrum. Easily can slot in today match. Elanga did well. Sancho kasi freeze a while pls.


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Tbh, both Newcastle and Chelsea not doing good enough, we missed the best chance to beat them.
But the fact is, we also not doing good enough.
We did good enough in defence, but not attacks.

Yes we are in rebuild stage, but when issue is there, need alternative method.
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If it weren't for that penalty, we would have passed over Chelsea to 4th place
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QUOTE(reddevils500 @ Oct 23 2022, 02:33 AM)
If it weren't for that penalty, we would have passed over Chelsea to 4th place
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If Rashford scored it would be 3-0 at half time.. and 3 points bagged..

Too scared to drop him cause the board dont wanna lose Rashy to PSG..
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Ronaldo would defo had played today at least off the bench, we really dont have options.
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Haiz our strikers reli tak leh pakai... Chelsea damn sucks lol... Cant even play like home team... And we missed all the chances... In term midfield control... We are definitely better... But our frontline...... Especially sancho and rashy....
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Rashford 4 games:
0 goals
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Moving forward, the next match against Sheriff, Ten Hag tolong at least try one of his idea on how to solve the recent issues.

1) Rashford is never a forward, too wasteful. But tbh, CR7 also not a solution, haiz. So this one can on-hold.

2) Antony and Dalot chemistry issue. Antony just doesn't pass to Dalot no matter how Dalot making the run. It make our midfield width so narrow.

3) Need a backup control midfieldr.
There is no direct replacement for Eriksen when he is injured or not on form.
Fred is not the answer, he can only play as pressing midfield, but not control midfielder.

The answer is there, Zidane.
It is almost certainly we won't have money for January transfer, thus Ten Hag need to start develop him no matter how.
Even 10 mins playing time will be a good start.



Btw, can still try Sancho on Sheriff match as opponent team is expected to be on bus parking mode, which suit Sancho the best. So not an issue.
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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Oct 23 2022, 03:41 AM)


2) Antony and Dalot chemistry issue. Antony just doesn't pass to Dalot no matter how Dalot making the run. It make our midfield width so narrow.
And I noticed antory always nag and telling off dalot. Antony now big headed already?


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Give some time to ETH. Antony just joined only. Varane please don't get injured anymore. What happened to Klopp?
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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Oct 23 2022, 07:47 AM)
And I noticed antory always nag and telling off dalot.  Antony now big headed already?
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Yes, we can see it, means Ten Hag can see it.
Dalot trying his best making run every match, but Antony never pass to him, some more nagging.
Ten Hag need to handle this.

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I'm quite happy with the game against Chelsea.
I think what happened on the pitch is clear for all to see so don't think it needs elaboration.

My biggest concern is Varane. He is my most important player in that team sheet for this season.

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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Oct 23 2022, 08:33 AM)
Yes, we can see it, means Ten Hag can see it.
Dalot trying his best making run every match, but Antony never pass to him, some more nagging.
Ten Hag need to handle this.
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And each time dalot didn't make any pass to him, he tell off dalot. As if he is so perfect. Can see his cocky face and body language coming out now.
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The passion of Casemiro when he scored the equaliser was really a good moment
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Still very sien we can won the winnable match... Also there is not much depth from the squad ytdy... Looking at the bench... I doubt we gt any game changer... Eth wanna make changes but with mcfred as our only alternative options... What kind of changes he can make early on... The team is playing better but the finishing really make me confused... Lol
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Fred yesterday very disappointing. So big difference vs spurs. Then the one he replaced lagi disappointing. So, it's like broken left side

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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Oct 23 2022, 11:19 AM)
Fred yesterday very disappointing. So big difference vs spurs. Then the one he replaced like disappointing. So, it's like broken left side
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Chelsea midfielders have skill vs Spurs midfielders who are good in defensive but lacking skill/technique, that’s why he was so easy press Spurs’s players

Varane really cannot play week in week out, not that i don’t like Maguire or Lindelof, how bad also they need to share the burden. By looking at the incident, macam like torn ALC

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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Oct 23 2022, 01:09 PM)
Chelsea midfielders have skill vs Spurs midfielders who are good in defensive but lacking skill/technique, that’s why he was so easy press Spurs’s players

Varane really cannot play week in week out, not that i don’t like Maguire or Lindelof, how bad also they need to share the burden. By looking at the incident, macam like torn ALC
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Not sure what you mean by ALC, but if you mean ACL then most likely it wont be the case. Footballers dread ACL injuries. It will take up to a year to fully recover and even very painful to walk for the first few weeks. It seems more like overstretch muscles like a hamstring tear which caused his tears to roll because it sounded like a pop to him. Minor one maybe out for a few weeks in time for the world cup.

He still walked okayish after he calmed down and for muscle injuries like i said would be a couple of weeks
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Well, we will be without him for 6 matches then.
The damage is quite minimal thanks to World Cup actually.
One of the match is even Carabao Cup.

Maguire already start training, let's see if Ten Hag will still trust him.

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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Oct 23 2022, 08:28 PM)


Well, we will be without him for 6 matches then.
The damage is quite minimal thanks to World Cup actually.
One of the match is even Carabao Cup.

Maguire already start training, let's see if Ten Hag will still trust him.
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Trust or not, he still need to play and share the burden. Varane type can’t play so many games continuously with his injury records.

We got no more options, no matter how poor Maguire or Lindelof, ETH needs to rotate his defenders
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Newcastle top4 fuh
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Oct 24 2022, 08:27 AM)
Newcastle top4 fuh
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They are playing quite well and they havent even fully flex their financial might yet.
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QUOTE(simmarjit @ Oct 24 2022, 08:59 AM)
They are playing quite well and they havent even fully flex their financial might yet.
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QUOTE(simmarjit @ Oct 24 2022, 08:59 AM)
They are playing quite well and they havent even fully flex their financial might yet.
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once they get a euro spot or even cl spot... then they can flex liao...
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Carrick now first time management as Middlesbrough manager
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Unai Emery the new Aston Villa manager.
Quite crazy man, Villarreal is fighting for top 6 in La Liga while Aston Villa is in relegation zone.

Some more he is Spanish himself.
Really scratch head, it seems it is due to personal reason more than money, challenge, achievement, etc.
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Oct 24 2022, 01:29 PM)
once they get a euro spot or even cl spot... then they can flex liao...
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Well City is still going to be a huge obstacle for them.
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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Oct 25 2022, 03:22 AM)
Unai Emery the new Aston Villa manager.
Quite crazy man, Villarreal is fighting for top 6 in La Liga while Aston Villa is in relegation zone.

Some more he is Spanish himself.
Really scratch head, it seems it is due to personal reason more than money, challenge, achievement, etc.
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Well better team with Villa, more money, a redemption for his Arsenal failures.
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QUOTE(reddevils500 @ Oct 24 2022, 11:35 PM)
Carrick now first time management as Middlesbrough manager
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Real test
Lets see if he can make it or not

QUOTE(KennRicky @ Oct 25 2022, 03:22 AM)
Unai Emery the new Aston Villa manager.
Quite crazy man, Villarreal is fighting for top 6 in La Liga while Aston Villa is in relegation zone.

Some more he is Spanish himself.
Really scratch head, it seems it is due to personal reason more than money, challenge, achievement, etc.
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Yeah...perhaps PL is hard to refuse nowadays
All PL clubs can match la liga/seria a spendings
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QUOTE(simmarjit @ Oct 25 2022, 06:07 AM)
Well City is still going to be a huge obstacle for them.
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Yes city will always be the obstacle. But newcastle gonna make the other teams life hard on the market
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focus on sheriff match... dunno cr7 will be back or not... sapu sapu... kasi get the top spot.... this season scoring goals has been our problem haiz... despite all the control in midfield and all the attempts... during ole time... scoring goals for fun... leaking goals also for fun... lol
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Oct 25 2022, 09:32 AM)
focus on sheriff match... dunno cr7 will be back or not... sapu sapu... kasi get the top spot.... this season scoring goals has been our problem haiz... despite all the control in midfield and all the attempts... during ole time... scoring goals for fun... leaking goals also for fun... lol
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maguire will be back soon brows.gif
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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Oct 25 2022, 03:22 AM)
Unai Emery the new Aston Villa manager.
Quite crazy man, Villarreal is fighting for top 6 in La Liga while Aston Villa is in relegation zone.

Some more he is Spanish himself.
Really scratch head, it seems it is due to personal reason more than money, challenge, achievement, etc.
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Unfinished business in epl
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Oct 25 2022, 09:36 AM)
maguire will be back soon  brows.gif
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aiks... we never win the game he started this season... sheriff and sociedad gonna be run him over for fun...
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Oct 25 2022, 09:41 AM)
aiks... we never win the game he started this season... sheriff and sociedad gonna be run him over for fun...
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need a decent cb, striker and cm for next window please... thought of having maguire doing his thing is terrifying...
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Oct 25 2022, 09:46 AM)
need a decent cb, striker and cm for next window please... thought of having maguire doing his thing is terrifying...
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he is gonna be always at here like jones... good wages... capitan position... gt chance to sit bench and win something... lol... and club maybe will extend his contract hahaha

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