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aaron1717
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 Oct 11 2022, 02:55 PM
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Oct 10 2022, 01:02 PM) Few positive takeaways from this game 1. Shaw is fit again, he cut few kg away and looks lighter than first 2 games 2. Ronaldo 700th goal finally come, hopefully this will kick start his season 3. Casemiro first taste of full EPL game and know how physical EPL game is but apart from first mistake and few easy miss passed, he did quite decent. Actually ETH can deploy 2 DM, Fred x Case or McTom x Case combo cuz Eriksen easily get exposed when Casemiro lose possession, just like 1st goal Another thing to worry is Dalot, he miss passed quite a numbers and we don’t have a proper right back to challenge him now with AWB and BW are out injured Martial, well…. yea dalot misplaced passes is worrying and everton not even try to press him... and there is no competition for him... since other right backs all injured or loaned out... |
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aaron1717
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Oct 11 2022, 03:55 PM
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « QUOTE(statikinetic @ Oct 11 2022, 07:42 AM) Since the start of the season, the team has improved in several small increments. Small, but increments nonetheless. Still far from where we want to be but the season was always going to be one of transition. One area of concern is space utilisation during the attacking transition. As the team gels, this should get better. In the game against Everton, first half was too end to end for ETH's liking and second half was more an exercise in control. The team making the second pass instead of the vertical one. Apart from the last section of the second half, it was measured. Casemiro is expected to grow into the CDM position in ETH's system after spending time familiarizing in training. Good early signs are there and fans will breathe a sigh of relief McFred is absent from the equation for the first time in years. Casemiro interprets the CDM role differently than what ETH's system wants, hence the bedding in period. After the City game, ETH was the target of much criticism even from pundits. I say we need to take everything into context. Really nobody should expect us to beat City after they got Haaland and the difference in quality showed. I am of the opinion we should give credit where credit is due based on progress. Manchester United is not going to play free flowing football this season. That is not the expectation. But after the first two losses which prompted transfer action from the club, Manchester United have won 5 out of the last 6 League games. Losing to City yes, but we beat Arsenal and Liverpool in that run. After that 4-0 defeat to Brentford, such a run would be considered a dream run. We are really a sixth place club, and are fifth by virtue of Liverpool's bad season with the same few clubs above us. For fans, have faith and trust the process. we are not going to play like man city/arsenal this season... man city also need more than 1 season to implement the play style... while arsenal spent more than 3 seasons... if everyone thought we can instantly change, thats impossible, since we never played possession based football since LVG era... and that time the gameplay is mostly bored opponents to death not play to win...  |
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aaron1717
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Oct 12 2022, 09:39 AM
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Oct 11 2022, 05:56 PM) Those clubs and their new manager back then didnt lose 4-0 before half time twice in 7 matches.. No one should expect United to play great straight away.. but everyone should expect United to be hard to beat.. both games were done at half time.. Both games also the players and the manager fail to react positively after conceding 1 goal and just let the opponent walk all over them.. Trusting the process does not mean the manager is above criticism.. that is how we treated Ole back then.. after 3 years 0 trophies, mediocre players contract renewed with high wages and their loser mentality influencing the dressing room, going backwards.. Nobody bigger than the club.. credit and criticism where it dues.. agree no one should be spared from criticism... the positive is that ETH try to respond positively to the criticism too.... generally time will still give... but criticism will still be given... otherwise this club wont be going forward anymore... generally ETH is trying to head to the positive direction with his methods... its up to the players to fight for their places... |
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aaron1717
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Oct 12 2022, 09:42 AM
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Oct 12 2022, 01:33 AM) Everton should have study the game when we vs city. City players focus on dalot’s side, all the cross, built up was from there Ok next 3 games - 6th place Newcastle, 3rd place spurs and 4th place Chelsea, and ETH vs Potter again after we lose our first game against Brighton but now it’s Chelsea lol If we able to survive this 3 games and keep close on top 4, whether if we finished top 4 or not, I’m happy they studied and try to attack dalot... haha.... but their frontline just not functioning... shaw side is secured as always he performed better with competition... now dalot lack of competition on his side... susah.... he could be first team rb til world cup... |
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aaron1717
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Oct 13 2022, 11:50 AM
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Oct 13 2022, 10:58 AM) Fascinating ucl. Pool bounce back. Barca out soon lol. Gambling failed. Pool always better with firmino. Think Salah-firmino-mane is their strongest combo at least they sapu ranger... not like us almost lose to cyprus team...  |
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aaron1717
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Oct 14 2022, 09:34 AM
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janji menang... now go for top spot... hentam sheriff and real sociedad 9 9 first... skip that extra match with ucl 3rd placees....
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aaron1717
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Oct 14 2022, 11:01 AM
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Oct 14 2022, 10:21 AM) Speaking of UCL 3rd place, some team sold their club and use billions to buy players and some player wanted to stay cuz of UCL footballs ended up playing Europa pretty soon LOL hopefully they gg this season financial fairplay again... and sell more assets to cover... spent so much in the end cant even qualify knockout round  in the league they are not sure win candidate... in UCL lagi teruk... lol |
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aaron1717
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Oct 14 2022, 02:02 PM
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QUOTE(and85rew @ Oct 14 2022, 01:32 PM) pogba too Hope United will meet this two teams and beat them to win Europa  pogba cant even play then maybe dumped out of europa dy  |
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aaron1717
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Oct 14 2022, 04:16 PM
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QUOTE(and85rew @ Oct 14 2022, 03:11 PM) That MF did not provide enough Bruno was very poor and messy Casemiro and Fred very rusty No supply = no goals As i said before..United real opponents are teams that parked bus we need eriksen at bruno place and let bruno bench and make him think more... his hollywood passes already kena found out and now it bcum lousy passes only... shooting also not threatening anymore, i think he reli need some bench time to cool down... and we need to get another CM to replace eriksen at that no.6 spot... |
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aaron1717
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Oct 17 2022, 09:38 AM
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midfield oh midfield... said thousand times dy, we need two CM/CDM... but no fdj then we spent all money to hoot antony... now the midfield same old issue when eriksen is out... the crosses from dalot and antony are sucks... lol... second half newcastle already given up playing... but still we cant score... the penalty box decision making were reli bad most of the time... feel like watching LVG era, gained alot possession but nth to show...
This post has been edited by aaron1717: Oct 17 2022, 09:41 AM
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aaron1717
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Oct 17 2022, 11:12 AM
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QUOTE(Darren @ Oct 17 2022, 10:38 AM) to be honest, antony not crosser type of player.... same go to sancho..... if u expect both become crosser, u need slowly convert them.... for CDM, it well known that casemiro not a playmaking CDM.... but few pass from him is kinda unexpected like the flip for rashford at the end.... Fred is only start because mctominay is ban for 5yellow... no choice.... VDB have been injured at the wrong timing.... otherwise he might given chance to start than Fred.... Hope united going for striker and playmaking CDM during Jan.... dont think the board will buy anyone during jan... lol.... gonna be need to tahan for this whole season with the squad we have now... now is whether ETH dare to use youngsters or not at midfield there when the options depleted... everyone know Eriksen sure cant play the whole season in full, same applies to mctom and casemiro... but haiz... spend whole summer chasing shadow for fdj and in the end main problem never solved... casemiro already did more than what he did in RM already... he seldom make passes like ytdy in RM since kroos and modric always do nicely for him... now he have to be the one to control the tempo of our midfield... |
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aaron1717
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Oct 17 2022, 12:31 PM
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Oct 17 2022, 11:25 AM) I don’t expect too 4 this season, this season aim top 6, if top 4 then it’s a bonus Porter’s Chelsea is getting better each game, and he beat ETH with his average Brighton during our first game I already said it many months ago that ETH have few things similar to Ole - Late sub, doesn’t fully utilised the sub, don’t have plan b boh bian dy... #ETHout soon fans wan we play for a win immediately and score big scoreline goals... |
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aaron1717
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Oct 18 2022, 09:26 AM
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Oct 18 2022, 12:14 AM) well if its the chelsea' torres then it may missed... but if its salah... it already gone case... haha |
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aaron1717
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Oct 18 2022, 09:27 AM
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QUOTE(MamulaMoon @ Oct 17 2022, 05:32 PM) Agreed. Midfield is our weakest link so far. We need players like Roy Keane who can dominate midfield. Should we go for Declan Rice?  too expensive... and west ham wont let him go for cheap... and his passing not really that good... we need playmaking CDM to control our tempo and declan rice is just another casemiro only... |
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aaron1717
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Oct 18 2022, 02:11 PM
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Oct 17 2022, 02:24 PM) Jose won EL and League Cup in his first season.. And fans said not good enough.. Said Utd should be competing for the league.. Fast forward.. Now fans saying its okay to not getting top 4.. Damn easy being United manager nowadays.. Fans keep changing objectives to give more chances.. Have to thank Ole for successfully lowering the standard.. managing own expectation so not to get disappointed... thats what all these years make some of the fans become... lol... but anyhow if ETH cant get anything this season, change manager again? |
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aaron1717
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Oct 18 2022, 05:32 PM
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Oct 18 2022, 04:57 PM) Myself personally, one cup final.. any cup, win or lose.. prove that u can do it, prove that u deserve the time.. Many said that Arteta get the time and money, but forget that he earned it.. Arteta won FA Cup in his 1st season at Arsenal.. There is nothing wrong with removing underperforming manager and players.. Look at Frank De Boer, similar(maybe better) achievements at Ajax like ETH.. got sacked after 4 loss in a row at Palace.. Lopetegui 3 loss in a row, sacked after 5-1 humiliation against Barca.. Winner like Tuchel that contributed and proved himself should get at least another year imo.. but loser like Ole get the time instead.. to be fair, managers like pep and klopp also won nth during their first season in charge... and eventually they brought their team up after the correct additions made to the squad in the subsequent window... can we assume like this for ETH if lets say he reli did won nth this season? |
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aaron1717
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Oct 18 2022, 06:30 PM
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Oct 18 2022, 06:22 PM) Depends on gameplay. Every now and then, play like Brighton city then sure very fast out of patience. So far, still ok. Can come back. By far better to watch than rangnick. At least you go into the match not expecting a lose/ draw the best period after sir alex is the period where we come back almost every game we conceded during ole season... but eventually ole is not the one meant to be... most of the gameplay during moyes, lvg and JM is not interesting... but JM won us cups which give us something to look forward for... |
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aaron1717
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Oct 19 2022, 09:28 AM
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QUOTE(MamulaMoon @ Oct 18 2022, 07:18 PM) Sigh...Its hard to find good playmaking players nowadays how many english playermaker are there as good as players like Kevin De Bruyne Most of the playmaker players are foreign players nowadays.. buying english players are very overrated these days... look at our sancho and grealish... and our favourite captain... will not be interested with any english players anymore... lol... foreign players that played long time in EPL should be priority... |
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aaron1717
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Oct 20 2022, 05:29 AM
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Spurs sucks as usual... Meh.... 🤣🤣 If rashy can take all the chances... Spurs will have a hell day already... Kane and son totally invisible... Thank god... Fred pressing like crazy this match... Have a reliable cdm behind you is totally different feeling...
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aaron1717
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Oct 20 2022, 09:26 AM
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Oct 20 2022, 06:18 AM) Antony is one leg dimension player, now I think most of the defenders know how to mark him already. He can’t crossed cuz his right leg was sucks, he only know how to use his left leg to shoot, that’s it like our ex captain valencia... lol... but anyhow lets see how ETH resolve this in time to come... either he flopped or bcum next robben... the legendary one legged winger... |
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