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J-Slade
post Oct 4 2007, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(pitinn @ Oct 4 2007, 09:06 PM)
THE BEST THING IS U ALL COME OUT A PLACE AND TALK...RM300 for a stupid toys is KINDA EXPENSIVE for me..U say he tape all the SPOILT TRANSFORMER BACK rite???When COD juz show him.....
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post Oct 4 2007, 09:11 PM

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anyway jacko-d ... base at 1st post of TS ... u shouldnt told the TS to fix and resell this item bac at RM 300 .
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post Oct 4 2007, 09:11 PM

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cut the crap...`

again, back to the main point..
Mint condition doesn't mean loose parts with taped joints!!!!

now, deny that if u can.
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post Oct 4 2007, 09:16 PM

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OH!!!Seller say is in MINT CONDITION.....TS do u ask him how MINT?jacko-d if u think ur REPUTATION juz cost RM300 den u carry on la....(juz count as u unlucky ) and CUSTOMER IS ALWAYS RIGHT.......

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post Oct 4 2007, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(phunkydude @ Oct 4 2007, 09:11 PM)
cut the crap...`

again, back to the main point..
Mint condition doesn't mean loose parts with taped joints!!!!

now, deny that if u can.
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QUOTE(jacko-d @ Oct 4 2007, 08:18 PM)
I believe all the Binaltech collectors know that the paint will fall off easily when you transform the item, after some transformation and the paint happens to fall off and the ball joint actually become very loose,and i did inform you there are minor paint chip as you all can see it from my picture as well,now you want to blame it on me.
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The seller claims he has informed the buyer of the condition before selling it.


This is not a con-case. Just a minor misunderstanding. To solve this, just show print screen of the PM (Private Messages) between the seller and buyer and WE will be the judge as to whether the buyer misunderstand, or the seller didn't explain things properly.


Henceforth please do not curse until the prove is shown. C'mon... lets sort this out the proper way aight?


Added on October 4, 2007, 9:22 pmAnd btw... the person who lodge the complain football8515 hasn't even said a word other than the 1st post.

Why is everyone fighting against Jacko like he con everyone in this thread. You guys are shooting blanks man...

This post has been edited by J-Slade: Oct 4 2007, 09:22 PM
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post Oct 4 2007, 10:00 PM

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mayb the seller should refund back part of the money then case close...
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post Oct 4 2007, 10:05 PM

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From as far as I can see, you can't put the blame on anyone. It might be the seller's fault for not packing it properly, those officers might have threw it around thus creating the chips. The buyer could have switched jacko's unit with a broken one, who knows. Conclusion:Trade COD and avoid doing shipping.
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post Oct 4 2007, 10:22 PM

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if someone wants to con then why would his LYN ID, eBay ID, and others are totally same? jacko-d?

if i were a con-man, i'd use sucker1 here in lowyat, sucker2 in eBay for conning purposes. ya get the point son?

my friend bought some ZOIDS from him, so far no complaining. jack even let him entered his house, that's not what a con-man would do, right?

so, i believe this is merely a misunderstanding. nothing more.
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post Oct 4 2007, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(ahtiven @ Oct 4 2007, 10:22 PM)
if someone wants to con then why would his LYN ID, eBay ID, and others are totally same? jacko-d?

if i were a con-man, i'd use sucker1 here in lowyat, sucker2 in eBay for conning purposes. ya get the point son?

my friend bought some ZOIDS from him, so far no complaining. jack even let him entered his house, that's not what a con-man would do, right?

so, i believe this is merely a misunderstanding. nothing more.
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I think it's because jacko didn't pack the product properly, binaltechs get paint chips very easily. But this time I don't think seller should refund because it's not his fault, go sue poslaju whatever you do, don't flame jacko. tongue.gif
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post Oct 4 2007, 10:32 PM

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Gosh.....that's what I mentioned in other thread.
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

Seems most of the time, the seller is always at the wrong side.
Even before he came in to answer dispute already bad mouthed the guy.
I wonder is it normal human nature.
Btw, not helping out anyone here or taking sides.

have you guys also ever considered that buyer might not purposely broken it but if i say IF he had accidentally broken it and put a blame on the seller? So why are you guys siding on the seller side instead?

Shouldn't us be neutral and analyse all possibility? All I saw is mostly situation that put buyer at faults. Why is that so? I do not want to comment on seller's possible recklessness since it had been brought up. But why no one ever questioned buyer's authenticacy on his story?

Also, it could be like what samus_ng mentioned; problem lies in the handling of the product by the courier.

It's like a lot likes to start flaming instead of providing solutions.
What's the use of this dispute corner than? Adding more fuel to the fire??

Seller suggested refund to buyer at a discount price because he doesn't know whether or not it's buyer's fault or postal's fault.

Also, to the seller: Did you show the picture to TS/buyer before which is the same picture or is it another picture? If it's another picture, pls post that picture out.

To me, it seems fair when seller are willing to refund.To me, it would be fair if seller refund half price and get back the item. Because with the condition in TS's pictures, I wonder how seller is going to sell that off again to "cheat" ppl. Also because seller also don't know whether or not it's buyer's fault or postal's fault. Refund to show that he's with a heart and not because he is guilty.

final word. I do not know who the seller or buyer is and I want to say I'm neutral. Just can't stand that seems that most are standing in the buyers shoes as if buyer is 100% not at fault. Which in this case we do not for sure.

Gosh....me occupational habit hit me again. Risk analyst here.......*sigh*

edited: because read wrongly that seller is going to refund which is not the case now

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post Oct 4 2007, 10:34 PM

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RM300 eh? same price as the one at Time Machine BTS (n confirmed MISB) laugh.gif

n btw, analyze the case first from both side b4 start bombarding~

This post has been edited by kerberos09: Oct 4 2007, 10:38 PM
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post Oct 4 2007, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(J-Slade @ Oct 4 2007, 08:40 PM)
Guys, download the pictures to your PC,

right click > properties > summary > Advanced
You will see the photo is taken by a Canon Digital Ixus 75 on the 2nd October 2007. Has Jacko-D sent out the toy already by then? If he has, then it is not the same unit as being sold to the TS
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rclxms.gif you very smart to view the EXIF...it made me go check it out too..guess what i found...
QUOTE(jacko-d @ Oct 4 2007, 08:44 PM)
Thanks J-Slade, I took the pic a night before I send it out
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according to TS, it took two days for the item to arrive...lets say that he got the item today(04/10) that means 2 days before is 02/10...you said you took it a night before I send it out which means it should be 01/10 and not 02/10...care to explain?
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post Oct 4 2007, 10:42 PM

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it seems like both of the photos from the buyer and seller are different item..

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post Oct 4 2007, 10:46 PM

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Seller conveniently removes info of disputed item from his sales thread.
What was advertised by seller in his thread? We don't know oredi.

Buyer complains and then did not follow up here (yet).
Swearing and rage-filled bystanders please stand aside you are not helping.

Please be careful when buy 2ndhand.
Please understand the risk of buying by post.

Having same id on several different selling sites does not mean he is serious about doing business. New accounts can always be created.

One thing is for sure: SELLER IS SERIOUS ABOUT OFFLOADING A BUNCH OF TOYS. Its entirely up to buyer to trust that the condition is as stated in the selling thread.

Sigh. RM300 for a broken toy.
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post Oct 4 2007, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(orenzai @ Oct 4 2007, 10:41 PM)
rclxms.gif you very smart to view the EXIF...it made me go check it out too..guess what i found...

according to TS, it took two days for the item to arrive...lets say that he got the item today(04/10) that means 2 days before is 02/10...you said you took it a night before I send it out which means it should be 01/10 and not 02/10...care to explain?
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I took the Pic on Monday midnite around 1am, or you can said Tuesday Morning 1am,
And I send the item around 12:30pm, therefore I said I took it "a night before I send it out."

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post Oct 4 2007, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(jacko-d @ Oct 4 2007, 11:01 PM)
I took the Pic on Monday midnite around 1am, or you can said Tuesday Morning 1am,
And I send the item around 12:30pm, therefore I said I took it "a night before I send it out."
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no point for other forumers to post unnecessarily...the TS hasnt even posted a single word...see wut he has to say 1st...
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post Oct 4 2007, 11:40 PM

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btw, seems that seller does have good repo on ebay as he claimed:
http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...ame=STRK:ME:UFS
and inputs are also from other countries.

Seller, just be generous and refund at least half as it may be postal faults.
Don't spoil your reputation.
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post Oct 4 2007, 11:46 PM

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Since the TS has not spoken a word since... i really feel this could be a ploy to bad-mouthed jacko-d.

If I were the TS, I would be monitoring this thread closely and reply quickly just like what jacko-d did.
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post Oct 4 2007, 11:56 PM

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His last activity is at "Today, 07:53 PM".
His last post is also this one he created.
Btw,
when I search up this post I just realise this:
QUOTE(football8515 @ Oct 2 2007, 02:32 AM)
hey i am interested in the BT-10 and BT-14. my number is 0179818517. how much to post to kuantan, pahang? can maake it 600 for both?
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Seller: did he bought 2? or 1 only?
Buyer/TS: If you bought 2?...what happened to the other one?

If 1 is ok and another 1 is not ok, than it's not postal fault already. So either one might not be telling the actual truth here. If there's only 1 sold/bought, than no one can affirm to the truth beside the seller and the buyer themselves.
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Judgment withheld until TS raises a solid defense.

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