After a week the mix & match of switches kinda bugs me so I bought replacement Box Whites and replace the numpad switches



Now my keeb is finally finished the mod, fully satisfied with the soft clicky switches and from the get go I found my typing accuracy is better with the more feedback I get than the OEM linear Reds.

Im no enthusiast so this might just be my end game keyboard moving forward. I hope this share can/have help new beginners. Peace out guys!

Owh? So that Kailh switch with the fatter rear pin was actually the defacto standard then and Outemu was the upstart? It does seem now the role has reversed and Outemu compatibility the norm for my China branded keeb and to fit Kailh switches became like I shown above the pin is crushed.

Stick to outemu... haha I wished I had knew before getting all those Kailh switches

I would have liked to if I could, each was 0.50 sen a pc while Box White was 1.00 sen (managed to knock down to RM30 for all). But I couldnt find an outemu that had the soft clicky feel (45g) and not-so-gamery-loud-clicks.

Yeah I guess I rushed in too fast into this hobby, doing a mod within couple months after getting my first keeb and didnt found out the intricacies of keeb modding until now.

Perhaps a bit naive thinking it was straightforward enuff to do watching keeb videos & tutorials. I had built my PC and been modding & adding it since so I figured modding keeb shouldnt be difficult as long as I knew what am I doing. Haha.

But when I realised another newbie could make the same mistake as I did, hence why I figuring to share my experience above.

On hindsight maybe I should have tried the test switches on the keeb itself (rather than a switch tester) plugging it in and test its functions then I would have found out this pin compatibility issue much earlier.

Your right if I had bought the right keeb with the switches I wanted as OEM I wouldnt have this issue however these are quite a bit more pricier than my K104S particularly full sized 104 keeb arent as widely available it seems (mostly I see are 65, 75,96)

This post has been edited by babylon52281: Oct 2 2025, 06:21 PM

Going thru kailh switches website, I noticed there are new info about switch compatibility



However


Which my K104S is the sleeve hot plug type. No wonder there was issues. Too bad either they didnt mentioned this earlier or I missed it.

With so many variations and compatibility/incompatibility doubts, I wish there is a listing summary of keebs or keyswitch brands which are what type and suited for which socket profile. I believe all Kailh switches would be incompatible with sleeve connector but what about other brands, so a listing would clear that doubt.

Kinda like community driven PSU Cultist list for power supply or Ryzen mobo compatibility chart for AM5.

It seems like it can be an expensive learning experience if ones didnt know about this pitfall and has committed to incompatible highend keeb/switches.

This post has been edited by babylon52281: Oct 10 2025, 06:00 PM

If go by keeb reviews Aula is a very good budget keeb brand, their F75 seems super popular if your into that size.

If your looking for budget 100% full size keeb, can consider Thunderobot K104S. Here is my review of higher end version https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5526067

Purely for office you can get lower end version (all black, soldered switches, less RGB function). Its also a bit cheaper
https://shopee.com.my/Thunderobot-K104s-Wir...289.24591384664

From my limited research theres not many full size which are wireless simply bcoz a full length keeb is unwieldy so even for keeb brands theres arent many choices. Theres AULA F108PRO that have been reviewed but iirc its at least double the price of my K104S so its not exactly budget level either.

Bragi Pro is 98% format tho. Just something to keep in mind.

Depends on your preference whether if your into linear, tactile, clicky, silent or thocky. Then subset whether you like it harder, or softer, or speedy actuation.
If your unsure, choose a keeb with hotswap capability to change the switches when you have a preference. You can buy a couple of switches from each series to test & play around, find which to your comfort the typing feel, sound, if you prefer RGB pass thru, and of course pricing & availability.

EDIT: full size 104 keeb is either not as many in the market as smaller ones or can be much more expensive. If your flexible, can consider compacted form factor 99/98% (similar to F99 sizing).

This post has been edited by babylon52281: Nov 6 2025, 03:30 PM