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post Feb 21 2024, 08:53 AM

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post Feb 21 2024, 09:40 AM

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RM breaking new lows every day.

congrats to USD, SGD, gold holders.

even viet dong is gaining big time against RM.

the trend will continue as nobody seems interested to explain the real reasons, let alone how to deal with it!
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post Feb 21 2024, 09:41 AM

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Next Target SGD 4 and USD 5.
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post Feb 21 2024, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Feb 21 2024, 09:40 AM)
RM breaking new lows every day.

congrats to USD, SGD, gold holders.

even viet dong is gaining big time against RM.

the trend will continue as nobody seems interested to explain the real reasons, let alone how to deal with it!
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The problem is, there is no solution. Either they raise interest rates to follow US, which will alienate all their B40 voters bank. Regardless which gov, none have shown to have any idea to improve the country's competitiveness or a vision. Best they can do is potong subsidy and introduce tax. Can't touch civil servants also as they are another voters bank.

I am moving as much money out from Malaysia as possible now. Really scared, no joke.
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post Feb 21 2024, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Feb 21 2024, 09:40 AM)
RM breaking new lows every day.

congrats to USD, SGD, gold holders.

even viet dong is gaining big time against RM.

the trend will continue as nobody seems interested to explain the real reasons, let alone how to deal with it!
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post Feb 21 2024, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(CommodoreAmiga @ Feb 21 2024, 09:52 AM)
The problem is, there is no solution. Either they raise interest rates to follow US, which will alienate all their B40 voters bank. Regardless which gov, none have shown to have any idea to improve the country's competitiveness or a vision. Best they can do is potong subsidy and introduce tax. Can't touch civil servants also as they are another voters bank.

I am moving as much money out from Malaysia as possible now. Really scared, no joke.
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u r enlightened! biggrin.gif

if u read the news about RM dives, u can see the fellas are avoiding touching the crux; just beat around the bush, blame the sky or the moon.

so, u already know the continuous trajectory.
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post Feb 21 2024, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Feb 21 2024, 09:59 AM)
u r enlightened! biggrin.gif

if u read the news about RM dives, u can see the fellas are avoiding touching the crux; just beat around the bush, blame the sky or the moon.

so, u already know the continuous trajectory.
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Regret didn't move more money when it was slight above RM4 like 2-3 years back. cry.gif
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post Feb 21 2024, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(CommodoreAmiga @ Feb 21 2024, 10:01 AM)
Regret didn't move more money when it was slight above RM4 like 2-3 years back. cry.gif
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it is very painful esp for those seniors living off savings... rm1000 becomes rm500 effectively.

the smarter/luckier ones wud have parked at least a portion in FX denominated assets at the right time.
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post Feb 21 2024, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(CommodoreAmiga @ Feb 21 2024, 09:52 AM)
The problem is, there is no solution. Either they raise interest rates to follow US, which will alienate all their B40 voters bank. Regardless which gov, none have shown to have any idea to improve the country's competitiveness or a vision. Best they can do is potong subsidy and introduce tax. Can't touch civil servants also as they are another voters bank.

I am moving as much money out from Malaysia as possible now. Really scared, no joke.
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still worth moving to sgd now? kept waiting for sgd to go down but it only gets worse.
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post Feb 21 2024, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(silentsurfer @ Feb 21 2024, 10:18 AM)
still worth moving to sgd now? kept waiting for sgd to go down but it only gets worse.
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Not waiting anymore. Even if it goes back up little bit, it will only go down eventually. Pumping more to USD, SGD and cryptos now. 10 years from now. You think RM will go back to RM4 or likely above RM5? See this country with the type of people running the gov and the type of vote banks. You think it will change for the better or worse? RM 1.5 Trillion debt now. 10 years down the road, i bet > RM2 Trillion already.

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post Feb 21 2024, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(silentsurfer @ Feb 21 2024, 10:18 AM)
still worth moving to sgd now? kept waiting for sgd to go down but it only gets worse.
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QUOTE(CommodoreAmiga @ Feb 21 2024, 10:22 AM)
Not waiting anymore. Even if it goes back up little bit, it will only go down eventually. Pumping more to USD, SGD and cryptos now. 10 years from now. You think RM will go back to RM4 or likely above RM5? See this country with the type of people running the gov and the type of vote banks. You think it will change for the better or worse? RM 1.5 Trillion debt now. 10 years down the road, i bet > RM2 Trillion already.
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herein lies the problem.

if u look at history, RM has been declining like forever.

but at every point, it's natural to think it will rebound "soon".

yet, there has been no turn, ever.

so, u can figure for next 10, 20 years.

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post Feb 21 2024, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Feb 21 2024, 10:28 AM)
herein lies the problem.

if u look at history, RM has been declining like forever.

but at every point, it's natural to think it will rebound "soon".

yet, there has been no turn, ever.

so, u can figure for next 10, 20 years.
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There will be minor rebound. There might be this year when US finally cut rates, but it will be very minor. Meanwhile, history has shown it never can rebound from major drop.
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post Feb 21 2024, 11:00 AM

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If 1 million ppl moving out RM 1mil each in 10 years, total RM 1 trillion, what would become of MYR?
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post Feb 21 2024, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Feb 21 2024, 10:28 AM)
herein lies the problem.

if u look at history, RM has been declining like forever.

but at every point, it's natural to think it will rebound "soon".

yet, there has been no turn, ever.

so, u can figure for next 10, 20 years.
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MYR is in what is called a "secular" decline vs USD since a long time, which is a very long term trend.

However, its not a straight line decline. Common to have reversals, can be up to 10-15 percent and could last a year or two (eg 2008 to 2011).




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post Feb 21 2024, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Feb 21 2024, 11:00 AM)
If 1 million ppl moving out RM 1mil each  in 10 years, total RM 1 trillion, what would become of MYR?
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can't deny that this is already happening for some time already. u can follow the smart money or u can "stand and fight"
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post Feb 21 2024, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(CommodoreAmiga @ Feb 21 2024, 10:22 AM)
Not waiting anymore. Even if it goes back up little bit, it will only go down eventually. Pumping more to USD, SGD and cryptos now. 10 years from now. You think RM will go back to RM4 or likely above RM5? See this country with the type of people running the gov and the type of vote banks. You think it will change for the better or worse? RM 1.5 Trillion debt now. 10 years down the road, i bet > RM2 Trillion already.
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post Feb 21 2024, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(CommodoreAmiga @ Feb 21 2024, 10:22 AM)
Not waiting anymore. Even if it goes back up little bit, it will only go down eventually. Pumping more to USD, SGD and cryptos now. 10 years from now. You think RM will go back to RM4 or likely above RM5? See this country with the type of people running the gov and the type of vote banks. You think it will change for the better or worse? RM 1.5 Trillion debt now. 10 years down the road, i bet > RM2 Trillion already.
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All valid points for concern.
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post Feb 21 2024, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Feb 21 2024, 11:05 AM)
MYR is in what is called a "secular" decline vs USD since a long time, which is a very long term trend.

However, its not a straight line decline. Common to have reversals, can be up to 10-15 percent and could last a year or two (eg 2008 to 2011).
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If got reversal, then it's time to quickly move out your RM. Eventually it will hit lower low and any reversal wont go back to previous high points.
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post Feb 21 2024, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(CommodoreAmiga @ Feb 21 2024, 11:38 AM)
If got reversal, then it's time to quickly move out your RM. Eventually it will hit lower low and any reversal wont go back to previous high points.
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I think many r now waiting for minor rebound to buy something incl gold. When us cut rates, unting besar la...!
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post Feb 21 2024, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Feb 21 2024, 12:01 PM)
I think many r now waiting for minor rebound to buy something incl gold. When us cut rates, unting besar la...!
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