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 D'Tessera Damansara by Exsim, To discuss about D'Tessera by Exsim

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Sneakersboi P
post Sep 5 2022, 08:57 PM

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Based on my calculation (if correct), there are a total of 7292 units launched thus so far.
D'Cosmos 402
D'Vervain 1066
D'quince 1310
D'errica 1143
D'vine 1400
D'clover 593
D'terra 767
D'tessera 671
Total : 7292

There left a plot of land next to D'Tessera which assuming another 700 units, the total units in the township will be around ±8k.

SA told me the middle part will be all commercial and 1 plot is a mall but we wouldnt know until they really build it.

As for the road, inside the township is 3 lanes & 1-way which is Ok. but if u notice the road exiting the township towards PJ, you have to pass through a narrow tunnel into empire then only connect to LDP. Imagine the traffic during rush hour. Of course if you are going other directions like dash, pencala link, kepong.. then it should be fine.

There are pros and cons in this development. Its kinda high density but if you dont have the crowd, the mall/commercial area will be dead.

Im a buyer of D'Clover btw. I have no choice but to pray that the township is as good as what Exsim preach.😅 For u guys who are considering, do shop around then only see if this project is suitable for u. Good luck

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post Sep 5 2022, 09:04 PM

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Oh ya, forgotten to mention that you will be sharing that little tunnel with flora damansara (1.4k units) & forest hill. 10k units squeeze through that little tunnel kinda crazy isnt it? 😅😅
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QUOTE(Sneakersboi @ Sep 5 2022, 09:04 PM)
Oh ya, forgotten to mention that you will be sharing that little tunnel with flora damansara (1.4k units) & forest hill. 10k units squeeze through that little tunnel kinda crazy isnt it? 😅😅
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Besides that tunnels, are there any other exits?
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post Sep 10 2022, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(happysalad @ Sep 10 2022, 01:02 PM)
Besides that tunnels, are there any other exits?
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For now, Damansara Perdana junction but then people always double park along the road so 2 lane also become 1 lane.
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post Sep 10 2022, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(digitalz @ Sep 10 2022, 02:41 PM)
For now, Damansara Perdana junction but then people always double park along the road so 2 lane also become 1 lane.
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Yea.. along jalan PJU 8/8 and come out from the tunnel opposite the empire city carpark.that road is quite congested during peak hours.
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post Sep 28 2022, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(jetzxp @ Sep 5 2022, 05:19 PM)
Thanks, it's good they share this with agents. However, there is no way to completely eliminate the risk of a rock/slope failure due to big uncertainties. All the methods you mentioned were to minimize the failure risk and to reduce the hazardous impact to life if there is a failure. Maintenance of the slope protection works will play a very big role in keeping the slope safe. My question is who is going to pay for the huge maintenance cost after handing over? Owners, developer or government?
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This is my biggest & only concern, I was told by my SA, Exsim will maintain the slope of the CPD part but who knows what will happen in >10 years? Quick search on google, it happened before on other side of bukit lanjan though that was 2004, after they re-profiled so far nothing happen. I assume the same re-profile method will be used on CPD. https://cilisos.my/youve-heard-of-the-highland-towers-landslide-but-it-wasnt-the-deadliest-in-malaysia/and https://trid.trb.org/view/1158919

There's no 100% guaranteed nothing will happen because is nature. Maybe the worst case scenario is just some rocks dropped into the CPD river, everyone is safe, but can you sleep without worries at night? and if you can't, can you manage to rent it out successfully?
it could be the best buy for own stay or perhaps the other way around? How I wish there's no mountain haha

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post Sep 29 2022, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(Kirara07 @ Sep 28 2022, 01:54 PM)
This is my biggest & only concern, I was told by my SA, Exsim will maintain the slope of the CPD part but who knows what will happen in >10 years? Quick search on google, it happened before on other side of bukit lanjan though that was 2004, after they re-profiled so far nothing happen. I assume the same re-profile method will be used on CPD. https://cilisos.my/youve-heard-of-the-highland-towers-landslide-but-it-wasnt-the-deadliest-in-malaysia/and https://trid.trb.org/view/1158919

There's no 100% guaranteed nothing will happen because is nature. Maybe the worst case scenario is just some rocks dropped into the CPD river, everyone is safe, but can you sleep without worries at night? and if you can't, can you manage to rent it out successfully?
it could be the best buy for own stay or perhaps the other way around? How I wish there's no mountain haha
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such big layout is more logical for ownstay
iqi agent sell waterfall on this project
you cant get waterfall without mountain tho

curious on the "waterfall" later when it is done, hope not getting small water like condo water pump no pressure lol
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post Sep 29 2022, 01:45 PM

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post Sep 29 2022, 02:10 PM

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Hard to see the adjacent empire city shopping mall failing.

Given that there is going to be at least 8k units in central damansara perdana.

As well as 2.5k residential units within empire city, and a few office blocks and hotels.

All 10k units likely within 300m walking distance to the mall.

Land area its larger than mid valley city.

In reality dcp and empire city is almost like a small city.

Assuming average 2 tenants in 1 unit. Thats 20k population at ur doorstep.

And the highways linked directly.
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QUOTE(flight @ Sep 29 2022, 02:10 PM)
Hard to see the adjacent empire city shopping mall failing.

Given that there is going to be at least 8k units in central damansara perdana.

As well as 2.5k residential units within empire city, and a few office blocks and hotels.

All 10k units likely within 300m walking distance to the mall.

Land area its larger than mid valley city.

In reality dcp and empire city is almost like a small city.

Assuming average 2 tenants in 1 unit. Thats 20k population at ur doorstep.

And the highways linked directly.
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i dun think dcp ppl can walk 300m to empire city
the nearest block maybe can, other at least need 1km, especially those facing mountain
land size big & many ppl live in a place doesn't mean it is city/township
to me it is just lots of condo with retail shop below

you wan a real township example?
look at maluri sunway velocity
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post Sep 29 2022, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(Najibaik @ Sep 29 2022, 02:38 PM)
i dun think dcp ppl can walk 300m to empire city
the nearest block maybe can, other at least need 1km, especially those facing mountain
land size big & many ppl live in a place doesn't mean it is city/township
to me it is just lots of condo with retail shop below

you wan a real township example?
look at maluri sunway velocity
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Theres a dedicated walkway, skybridge, being built to connect both, for the condos directly opposite its going to be less than 100m.

Sunway velocity is 23 acres.

Empirecity alone is 30 acres. As a mixed development its much bigger than sunway velocity.

Dcp is 60 acres. The ones right at the mountain may need to walk, buts its definitely walkable.

Pretty sure its not 1 km.

60 acres end to end distance is also only about 500m. The condos entrance will be further out from the boundaries.

I think likely at most is 400m walk. The condos furthest away.

ps: its a rectangular plot of land.

Anyway, its walkable is to short version.

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QUOTE(flight @ Sep 29 2022, 02:10 PM)
Hard to see the adjacent empire city shopping mall failing.

Given that there is going to be at least 8k units in central damansara perdana.

As well as 2.5k residential units within empire city, and a few office blocks and hotels.

All 10k units likely within 300m walking distance to the mall.

Land area its larger than mid valley city.

In reality dcp and empire city is almost like a small city.

Assuming average 2 tenants in 1 unit. Thats 20k population at ur doorstep.

And the highways linked directly.
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The mall already failed
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post Sep 29 2022, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(Onetwothreeeee @ Sep 29 2022, 09:14 PM)
The mall already failed
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Not yet fully open.

Targetted 2023. Joint works by exsim and mammoth empire.
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post Sep 30 2022, 04:01 AM

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QUOTE(flight @ Sep 29 2022, 11:06 PM)
Not yet fully open.

Targetted 2023. Joint works by exsim and mammoth empire.
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If you know the history of the mall, and the area, the mall has already failed once.

Whether Exsim will be able to revive the mall or not, is another matter altogether.

On a separate note, this area is VERY, VERY, VERY packed.

Buy at your own risk, I foresee exsim’s township/condos will be a ghetto area like flora damansara.
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post Sep 30 2022, 04:23 AM

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QUOTE(NorAzdanNordin @ Sep 30 2022, 04:01 AM)
If you know the history of the mall, and the area, the mall has already failed once.

Whether Exsim will be able to revive the mall or not, is another matter altogether.

On a separate note, this area is VERY, VERY, VERY packed.

Buy at your own risk, I foresee exsim’s township/condos will be a ghetto area like flora damansara.
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Is Exsim going to fly out Paris Hilton to come party with the homeowners? Or cut budget a bit and use someone like Pui Yi.
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post Sep 30 2022, 08:19 AM

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QUOTE(NorAzdanNordin @ Sep 30 2022, 04:01 AM)
If you know the history of the mall, and the area, the mall has already failed once.

Whether Exsim will be able to revive the mall or not, is another matter altogether.

On a separate note, this area is VERY, VERY, VERY packed.

Buy at your own risk, I foresee exsim’s township/condos will be a ghetto area like flora damansara.
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I think this depends on what ur definition of ghetto is.

Average price is 650 persqft?


Highways on ldp both ways, infrastructure being built around the mall, dash highway.


I can imagine there would be an oversupply. But im pretty sure it wont be a ghetto.

The location is fairly strategic.
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post Sep 30 2022, 09:20 AM

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Like Ampang, although the location is attractive the sheer density will just disrupt the market and prices will remain stagnant for a long time if not go backwards.

People forget that assets and investments are built on scarcity.

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QUOTE(flight @ Sep 29 2022, 05:09 PM)
Theres a dedicated walkway, skybridge, being built to connect both, for the condos directly opposite its going to be less than 100m.

Sunway velocity is 23 acres.

Empirecity alone is 30 acres. As a mixed development its much bigger than sunway velocity.

Dcp is 60 acres. The ones right at the mountain may need to walk, buts its definitely walkable.

Pretty sure its not 1 km.

60 acres end to end distance is also only about 500m. The condos entrance will be further out from the boundaries.

I think likely at most is 400m walk. The condos furthest away.

ps: its a rectangular plot of land.

Anyway, its walkable is to short version.
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then it is even worse, means within 500m distance got at least 10 condos

you just point out how high density it is for those who can't imagine
Now i can imagine lol

maluri is a township not because of velocity, is about those commercial area with banks and shops etc, basically everything is there
DCP wise other than condo and a mall (which not sure when will complete), I don't see anything else in the 60 acre of land other than condos

This post has been edited by Najibaik: Sep 30 2022, 10:48 AM

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