Hard to see the adjacent empire city shopping mall failing.

Given that there is going to be at least 8k units in central damansara perdana.

As well as 2.5k residential units within empire city, and a few office blocks and hotels.

All 10k units likely within 300m walking distance to the mall.

Land area its larger than mid valley city.

In reality dcp and empire city is almost like a small city.

Assuming average 2 tenants in 1 unit. Thats 20k population at ur doorstep.

And the highways linked directly.

Theres a dedicated walkway, skybridge, being built to connect both, for the condos directly opposite its going to be less than 100m.

Sunway velocity is 23 acres.

Empirecity alone is 30 acres. As a mixed development its much bigger than sunway velocity.

Dcp is 60 acres. The ones right at the mountain may need to walk, buts its definitely walkable.

Pretty sure its not 1 km.

60 acres end to end distance is also only about 500m. The condos entrance will be further out from the boundaries.

I think likely at most is 400m walk. The condos furthest away.

ps: its a rectangular plot of land.

Anyway, its walkable is to short version.

This post has been edited by flight: Sep 29 2022, 05:16 PM

Not yet fully open.

Targetted 2023. Joint works by exsim and mammoth empire.

I think this depends on what ur definition of ghetto is.

Average price is 650 persqft?


Highways on ldp both ways, infrastructure being built around the mall, dash highway.


I can imagine there would be an oversupply. But im pretty sure it wont be a ghetto.

The location is fairly strategic.

If there is 5k units and only 1 supermarket located right in the middle of the 5 units of condo.

That supermarket is going to do very well.

And u r making the opposite assumption.

Assuming the occupancy is insanely bad. Aka 30% occupancy. Thats 3k units. However existing residential soho units in empire city have high occupancy. 2.5k units

So that would assume that of the 8k units that will likely be there at 2027, only 500 are occupied. Essentially a ghost town.

Exsim would have to go bankrupt in the middle for that to happen. Which is kind of what happened to empire, hence the mall wasnt able to be completed. Rather than it being a failed mall.

Say occupancy is bad at 50%. Thats 6.5k units there.

13k ppl is still nothing to sneeze at.



However, is this a rational assumption? Damansara perdana is adjacent to 3 affluent neighbourhoods. Kota damansara, bandar utama and mont kiara. 4 if u count desa park city above. Essentially its encircled by affluent neighbourhoods.

It will be serviced by 2 major highways. Ldp and dash. As well as the other connecting highways.


An irrational assumption. Even existing developments are fairly well occupied.


However, is it likely that there will be a huge oversupply? Almost a certainty.

Even then, if occupancy is at 50%, its unlikely to stay there for long.



Personally i wouldnt buy dcp due to the oversupply.

This looks kind of like jalan ampang 10 years ago.

Although the locations seems substantially better.

However, there is only 1 mall at walking distance to this dense population.

Im pretty sure the ppl staying there have some sort of cashflow. These apartments arent that cheap afterall.

The sustainment comes from the major highways connected to it. Dash highway, ldp.

Major affluent townships in BU, mont kiara, kota damansara, damansara perdana, ttdi that surrounds the mall.

The 13k units is just a bonus.


Generally highway connected malls with large visibility tend to do well.

All the major malls outside of kl r like this.


Sunway pyramid, midvalley, 1 utama.

Havent a clue. But dash connects to a new township in elmina. And this mall is new.


Have experience with empire subang to manage the mall

Denai alam