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jimmylim85
post Oct 21 2013, 08:56 AM

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QUOTE(Solar freak @ Oct 14 2013, 07:14 PM)
I use oae for 3 yrs already still working fine. Have to Grease and WD 40 to prolong the life.
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Never ever apply WD40 onto the internal protruding arm, WD40 has the tendency to damage that fiber part. Once is broken, your arm system is good as dead and replacing whole arm is the only option. I recommend apply rubber/silicone grease which the compound is a bit watery and comes in blue. This grease is meant for conditioning rubber parts in automobile. Normal grease will attract dirt and fine sand which damage the internals.
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post Oct 24 2013, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(chanxellor @ Oct 24 2013, 08:16 PM)
Thanks Jimmy. The installer came and replaced the Panel board and the antenna. He was also not sure why it was only giving problem in the evening. He charged me RM80 for transport and labour. The board and antenna is FOC since it is still under warranty. Now the auto gate is working fine. Hope fully it won't give anymore problem.
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No problem. Glad to assist you. biggrin.gif
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post Aug 17 2014, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(petlu28 @ May 24 2014, 05:45 PM)
For those using DC Moto, how to prevent water dirty mark. I just wash it because can seen dirty mark. Just now I think use car wax but don't know useful or not.
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Since is white in colour, prone to water marks. Nothing much can be done. Prefer the previous model GFM 905 where is Gold biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(alfianguy @ Jun 4 2014, 02:00 PM)
My auto gate OAE Auto Gate model 333A opens jerky and not smooth. Sometimes open halfway stop.

What is broken? And what's the estimate cost to repair it? Can DIY?
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Jerky is because OAE Auto Gate is powered gear to gear movement without much cushioning. And the other problem is due to how the motherboard being produce. Higher end auto gate runs on PWM (power management) which provides smoother power and voltage curve in order to run smoother and with 3 speed (GFM 925W)

Open halfway stop problem, here is a few factors =

- Load increment required (motherboard overload knob require increment)
- OAE internal motor life span have come to an end which increase load that cause the power cut off
- If you're using swing-fold gate, check your roller bearing is running smoothly.

Motor replacement price range from RM 450 - 650 per piece sweat.gif
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post Aug 17 2014, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(cheekily @ Jun 16 2014, 04:37 PM)
Hi all,

Have been using OAE autogate swing arm for 1 year plus...so far no problem. But just that the back-up battery didn't function when there was a recent power supply interruption yesterday (seldom had power interruption at my housing area, so didn't really tested it out all these while). Does anyone know how long is the back-up battery's lifespan? I ask an installer, he said the back-up battery supposed can last for 1-2days when there's no power supply, but the lifespan is 1 year plus...so that means every 1 year plus need to change new back-up battery which cost RM150. Is it the same with any of your autogate back-up battery?
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Battery life span indeed last roughly 12 months to 24 months. Some of my customer manage to pull off 36 months.

Is all bound to the quality rechargeable backup battery you purchase. Those from china and low quality ones usually blows out or else excessive acid leaks on the seals. Don't be surprise seeing battery clips get corrosive to the extend of eating up all the metal bits.
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post Aug 21 2014, 12:32 AM

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QUOTE(jonny4 @ Aug 20 2014, 05:00 PM)
my house has a sliding type autogate. installed about a year ago.

this morning around 530am we discovered that the gate was wide open. been open a couple of hours at least coz at 2am i checked n it was closed.

checked n there were no signs of tampering to the gate n motor.

wat could be d cause ?
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1. Check your remote control, is there any remotes damage switches causing it to accidental trigger the gate open.

2. Change remote control code (includes the receiver too) try it and see the result.

3. Get a qualified electrician to check on your autogate control panel cables for leakage. Cable that have short circuit or leakage will cause the control panel to trigger the gate open or close.


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post Aug 28 2014, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(Wayne85 @ Aug 26 2014, 09:41 PM)
anyone have any reviews on FAAC brand? thanks..
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FAAC, can say reliable and very pioneer brand from Italy. Spare parts expensive. With goo maintenance, it last.
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post Sep 13 2014, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(OneMoreDay @ Aug 29 2014, 01:30 AM)
Hi, everyone.

Just wondering if there's any kind of gate add-on system or whatever that can remind you that the gate is still open?

Also, our original gate remotes are dying and we've copied them onto newer remote controls but for some reason the signal is weak and we have to press quite a few times before the gate moves. We've already gone through quite a few of them. Solutions?
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If all your remote control face the same problem, is time to replace the control panel remote control receiver.
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post Sep 13 2014, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Sep 2 2014, 01:30 PM)
Yup, grease may damage the arm because the grease will stick on the foreign material on the arm.
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If you want the rubber seals attached to the arm to last longer, get rubber grease. Those grease are specially made to extend life long of the rubber seals. Can obtain from car spare part shop.
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post Sep 13 2014, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(H2D @ Sep 10 2014, 03:48 PM)
i'm using dc moto but sliding..

i find tht dc moto tends to over push a bit even tho the gate already closed...

mebe tht's wht happen in ur case,...

cos dc moto is not using the old switch type to turn it off

if is using some electronic? gear rotation distance calculation,

so even when the door already closed... can hear the motor push like 1 sec or more b4 it

switch off on its own...

so they need to fine tune their product...

or we can trick the motor that just 10-20 cm before the the gate touches, it is closed..

means trick it to switch off earlier....
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DC Motor Sliding uses 3 pieces of magnet inside the gearbox shaft. It uses magnetic contact reader to count the rotation for the distance for open and close. It uses low voltage to close the gate (resistance). Hance you don't notice limit switch on both ends of the gear rack.

How do we fine tune the DC Motor to cut off the motor sooner than before??? Answer is simple, the control panel has a variable dial for "LOAD" resistance. You can fine tune the level for enough resistance to cut off aka safety adjustment. Bare one thing in mind, turning the dial too sensitive will lead the gate stop halfway due to resistance cut off, motor need extra load to push the gate at some point.


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post Sep 13 2014, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(1282009 @ Sep 13 2014, 04:04 PM)
Hi Guys, I was quoted 1.5k for OAE auto gate 333A model including installation/etc. Is it reasonable?
Any more bad experiences with OAE auto gate in particular on this model?
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At RM 1500 range, you have lots of choice for locally made autogate system.

Others like CASA Asia 320 or even DC Motor GFM 925W.
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QUOTE(yvne @ Sep 11 2014, 05:14 PM)
I believe is the limit switch is important for the stopping the motor from turning. If the limit switch is not set properly, then the motor is over-stress.
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GFM 925W has the control panel set limit load to minimal. In which is consider safe. It doesn't use limit switch at all. All turning radius is pre-calibrated on the very first run.

QUOTE(yvne @ Sep 11 2014, 06:11 PM)
Oh, ok... in that napoli26 case is board issue then?

Napoli26, what did your contractor told you? What is faulty?
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Is not circuit board issue, was the gearbox. It only happens to a small quantity in the first batch of production. As for today, all gearbox is been rectified with stronger material. Even GFM 925W had another revision back in August 2014 with new limit stop nut.

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post Sep 14 2014, 01:58 AM

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QUOTE(1282009 @ Sep 14 2014, 01:21 AM)
Thanks for the feedback. Do u mean the other 2 auto-gates are on par or better than the OAE 333A model?

It's actually for my parent's house and they urgently require the replacement and hence it's recommended by their known contractor.

Btw, I did a search, seem CASA is slightly more expensive than 1.5k.
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I do not mean that any other will be better since is going to be a competition market.

I've tried OAE, Casa Asia and DC Moto. End of the day, I sold more DC Moto than the other two brands.

Since is for your parent use, I recommend you Casa Asia and DC Moto. Both have manual operation easier to operate than those arm type (unless you opt with those having a key to release the locking mechanism).

As you can see, mostly swing or swing fold gate design are closely design whereby your hand doesn't reach inside. In which make it hard for manual release when you're stuck outside the gate. Casa Asia and DC Moto manual release design has solved this problem by having manual release key mounted on the motor top section which is closely towards the pillar. And each swing and swing fold gate have at least 2 inch of gap between the pillar and gate.
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QUOTE(yvne @ Sep 15 2014, 01:17 PM)
Oh thanks for your clarification, anyway... new limit stop nut? you mean two nut stop each other?
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Different design of limit stop nut. Previous version tend to wear out after long usage.
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post Sep 21 2014, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(yvne @ Sep 20 2014, 04:28 PM)
On the another hand, do you think that the remote control for DC moto able to be done by outside people? what is the normal price for the remote control?
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As long is the same model and manufactured by DCMOTO. Beware of counterfeit/clones made from Taiwan/China.

Price range from RM 80 - 120
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post Sep 23 2014, 12:23 AM

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QUOTE(yvne @ Sep 22 2014, 12:02 PM)
Thanks jimmylim85.
Hmmm, can we buy it ourselves and "tune" it? DIY possible?
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Sure. Learn the steps on how to program/clone procedure.
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post Sep 26 2014, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(ahbsl @ Sep 24 2014, 02:57 PM)
Hi! Jimmylim85, About the DC moto remote control, How to differentiate in between china/taiwan made and local original made ?
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Local made the finish and plastic material feels more premium. You can touch it felt like fine sand paper rather than lacquered plastic.
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QUOTE(shadowcaster @ Sep 26 2014, 10:59 AM)
I'm clueless regarding autogate stuff but just wondering is it possible to re-configure an existing autogate system? As in change the remotes (recode?)?
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Depending on what type of remote control system you're using.

Ordinary and even other brands, they use FIXED code. Adjust remote control and receiver coding to match it as you've change a new code.

While DCMoto GFM 905/925 series runs on more advance "Code Hopping" type. You just have use one of the remote control and randomly change a new code and copy the rest of the remote control plus "learning" the code thru the control panel.


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QUOTE(hidzwan @ Sep 26 2014, 02:53 PM)
Hi,

wanna ask between Solenoid and EM locking, which one is more durable and easier to maintain. For EM lock, would it got effected in the event of power lost?
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First and foremost, your electric lock for door entry or gate system?

Here is a break down on pros n cons.

Solenoid
- existence the early 90's for gate system.
- almost no maintenance required.
- if it failed, you need to use the release key (pray hard you didn't lost it)
- wear n tear from the solenoid catcher where it grabs it but doesn't hold on it.

EM Lock
- the most convenient usage
- has 300 pound to 600 pound force-hold
- it can have battery backup usage
- requires no manual release key (just cut the power off)

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QUOTE(hidayat14 @ Sep 27 2014, 08:57 AM)
i register the interest to buy dcmoto in their website and their sales representative call me and quote the price of RM1700. is this price reasonable?

my location is in penang. does anyone have contact that can give better pricing for this? thanks.
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Penang, there is tons of DCMoto dealers there. You can always ask around. Which are you are located? BM?

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