QUOTE(mts autogate @ Sep 26 2013, 11:52 PM)
Hmmm. My question still not answered. Automatic Gate, How much do you need to install one ?
Automatic Gate, How much do you need to install one ?
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Sep 27 2013, 09:02 AM
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Sep 27 2013, 09:35 AM
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QUOTE(aquaria87 @ Sep 24 2013, 11:01 AM) All cable should be water proof rite as all hv the insulated layer. humm... when i google, the advantage only abt losses which i think not significant for domestic use i.e. autogate, doorbell, lamp post... armoured cable is not about lossless signal transmission at all.. It is meant to withstand outside weather and harsh condition like rain, hot noon temperature, cold night temperature, etc. For a normal cable, if it used outside the house, in long term, the cable condition (its insulation and its copper wire) will quickly deteriorate, become brittle, etc. It can lead short circuit, damaging the autogate, or even a fire..The question why need to use armored cable still in my mind n yet to decide which to use... This post has been edited by zeese: Sep 27 2013, 09:36 AM |
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Sep 27 2013, 09:58 AM
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Do you know roughly how much?
QUOTE(zeese @ Sep 27 2013, 09:35 AM) armoured cable is not about lossless signal transmission at all.. It is meant to withstand outside weather and harsh condition like rain, hot noon temperature, cold night temperature, etc. For a normal cable, if it used outside the house, in long term, the cable condition (its insulation and its copper wire) will quickly deteriorate, become brittle, etc. It can lead short circuit, damaging the autogate, or even a fire.. |
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Sep 27 2013, 10:13 AM
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Sep 27 2013, 10:19 AM
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Sep 27 2013, 10:50 AM
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If i using PVC tube, would can be the protecter to the normal cable bro? much cheaper...
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Sep 27 2013, 11:16 AM
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QUOTE(aquaria87 @ Sep 27 2013, 10:50 AM) Yes is possible, olden days contractor use double insulator and PVC tubes. But thos days the cables quality are very good, but if you want 7cores you may need to have two PVC pipe. Using conventional single insulation cables is not design to be outdoor use, risk are higher. No doubt many developer use such method, to them after few years no longer their problem. |
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Sep 27 2013, 11:31 AM
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My developer didn't provide cabling too. So autogate contractor advise using pvc pipe too but need 9 cabling. 8 cabling for autogate another 1 cabling for bell. do you know local which brands cabling better?
QUOTE(weikee @ Sep 27 2013, 11:16 AM) Yes is possible, olden days contractor use double insulator and PVC tubes. But thos days the cables quality are very good, but if you want 7cores you may need to have two PVC pipe. Using conventional single insulation cables is not design to be outdoor use, risk are higher. No doubt many developer use such method, to them after few years no longer their problem. |
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Sep 27 2013, 11:47 AM
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Armoured cables is preferred because it can withstand the element when buried underground. PVC pipe is also acceptable but you need to take into account soil settlement if your property is new and PVC pipe might crack under pressure and then your cable will be exposed, risking it being damage x yrs later then you need to spend money to replace it.
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Sep 27 2013, 11:58 AM
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Can Armoured cables cabling with PVC pipe too? My car porch come with concrete. I think can't drilling.
QUOTE(praetorion @ Sep 27 2013, 11:47 AM) Armoured cables is preferred because it can withstand the element when buried underground. PVC pipe is also acceptable but you need to take into account soil settlement if your property is new and PVC pipe might crack under pressure and then your cable will be exposed, risking it being damage x yrs later then you need to spend money to replace it. |
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Sep 27 2013, 12:49 PM
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You want to lay on top of the concrete? Dont think its a good idea though.
Plus you will need a very large diameter of pipe to cover the cable. You can hack a channel along the side wall to your front gate then patch it over with cement. |
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Sep 27 2013, 12:51 PM
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Sep 27 2013, 12:53 PM
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Sep 27 2013, 01:17 PM
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My house are red brick I think can't drill too.
QUOTE(praetorion @ Sep 27 2013, 12:49 PM) You want to lay on top of the concrete? Dont think its a good idea though. This post has been edited by petlu28: Sep 27 2013, 01:26 PMPlus you will need a very large diameter of pipe to cover the cable. You can hack a channel along the side wall to your front gate then patch it over with cement. |
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Sep 27 2013, 01:23 PM
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Got budget use stainless steel pipe. Very nice if done properly.
If you are using dcmoto, you have option not to use incoming power from house by using solar. And that you don't need cabling. |
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Sep 27 2013, 01:28 PM
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ask before just panel RM700++ not include cover. Yes i plan using dc moto.
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