Which diet is best for you and why? Bincangkan result anda.

I go for the mixture.

Morning - normal coffee + 2 half boiled eggs.

Lunch - eat whatever foods available with the colleague, no restriction. Once full, stop eating even though there is leftover foods on the plate. Don't use the motto "don't waste food, must tuck in everything into the stomach". Adopt "stop when full".

Dinner - with restriction. Usually low calories foods with high fiber ( lettuce, bell pepper, cherry tomatoes ) + protein with low fats (shrimps / chicken fillet run with boiled water)

If I do above, I can get 0.2~0.3kg average reduction in body weight if I workout on the same day.

Weekend usually will take some high calories food ( cheat days) but always follow up with some vigorous sport during late evening / night time. Weekend I usually gained 0.5~1.2kg over my eating habit.

Keto was the one that got me to first time see the abs.

Not sustainable tho, with one of the reason being rather expensive. Best diet is the one that you can stick to it in the long run. Took me a while to modify a normal diet eating watever i want and got me close to the result keto did.

I'm five years in. Why expensive?

Well my keto was aiming for 65% fat, 30% prot, 5% carb. That means on a 2500cals diet (standard for my cut), Need to ingest quite abit of meat to reach the prot intake.

Beef is not exactly cheap (more so the price is crazy now) so can't have it as often. only left with the usual chicken, eggs and cheese (processed). Got tired of them lol

I try not to deep fry stuff since it makes counting the calories even harder thus making the diet alot more rigid too.

I never court calories. Calories doesn't matter in keto. I picture the percentage as a plate. U know like a pie chart

This post has been edited by Satanist: Aug 24 2022, 11:43 PM

Not exactly true. Calories do matter in any diet. Even keto. Just that ppl tend to lose weight thanks to the diet being more satiating.

I've seen plenty of ppl not losing weight on keto just because they think it's a magical gateway to infinite fried chickens and cheeses.

I wanted to portion size initially, but as I was dead set on reaching a goal, I added calorie counting just to make sure I'm on right track.

It became a habit now lol

Lost 15kg on first attempt on dirty keto which is mostly KFC. Calories only matter when it's carbs. When u know how to do clean keto u can sustain it.

Of course you can lose weight while on kfc. To give some perspective, 15 pieces of kfc chicken if all drumstick and wings only equates to about 2250 to 2500 calories.

6 pieces of the biggest piece which is the breast is around 2100 to 2500.

If you're 100 kilos and exercises at least 2-4 times a week, you tdee is around 2600-3000.

You're in a caloric deficit, you just didn't realize it.

Not trying to argue anything,but just trying to shed some light that no diet is magical

Only thighs and little drumstick. Skin on. I don't take wings or breasts. Now I see where u went wrong. Ur protein too high.

This post has been edited by Satanist: Aug 25 2022, 09:20 AM

Lol there you go. Thigh and drumstick. At most they're only 450-500 cals together if youre on snack plate. Twice a day still at most 1k. How can you not lose weight.

And of course I needed the protein. How am I gonna recover from all the lifting if I don't consume enough

Plenty of research already debunked all these diet myths, keto,IF etc. But if your believe is already set in stone, nothing I say will change your mind unfortunately. If you can sustain it in the long run, then go ahead and keep on. Keto got me to where I wanted, but I didn't wanna miss out all the good carbs lol

Dinner plate dude. Point is i don't count calories. Plus calories are metabolized differently in your body. That where you are lacking

Dinner plate is still 750-800 cals. Twice a day still 1600. Even if 3 times a day still 2400 max. Nope lol. What's next

3 dinner plates is 2,583kcal per day. kcal get it?



Whoops i spoke too soon, ill admit i was wrong.


Plus 2 coleslaws every plate thats 300kcals screw the bun.. In total 3 dinner plates is 3483kcal.



This post has been edited by Satanist: Aug 25 2022, 10:28 AM

Lol

The 2573 is only if you have all 3 thighs, for 3 sets of dinner plate. The figure i gave was based on 2 thigh 1 drumstick. It was just estimate. And do you even have Dinner plate 3 times a day in the first place? If yes everyday? On 1 sitting even? No exercise at all?

And it cost 60 bucks (if really dinner plate 3 times), that's not very sustainable for a lot of other ppl too, financially.


And take the figures as a reference only.with kfc malaysia now mainly serving spring sized chicken, the value is likely less.

Yes i request for 3 thighs it was possible back then. Exercise never changed. same routine. Dude that was dirty keto. Plus u forgot the coleslaw.
You're right in the morning it was 5 bacon and 3 sunny side up eggs and bulletproof coffee. Sustainable is up to your knowledge and experience.

Of course i was trying to lose weight not bulking up.

axtray

ok then we compare with 3 nasi lemak ayam goreng fuhhh best. Which is 2250cal perday. But i increase weight. How now?

Since you wrote quite abit

Breakfast -
5 bacon 225 cals
3 ssu eggs 300 cals
Bulletproof coffee 140 cals per 100ml. I assume 200 so 280cals.
Total approximately 800 cals

For the dinner plate, coleslaw is 150 cals. With the 3 thighs equates to about 1011 cals. So how many servings of this dinner plate you have? Twice a day? Everyday even in thr 15kilo weight lost journey (congrats on this part)? Total will be approximately 2800 cals. If 3 servings 3600 cals with breakfast . Honestly I doubt you did this everyday.

Next will be how heavy were you when you first started. And how many times you exercise per week.


Sustainability is of course up to knowledge and experience. But as a first mentioned, keto is just not a cheap diet, for me at least. With the budget I allocated for food per month, majority of the time is chicken and egg (fast food or home cook). Beef or lamb on occasion.

And I wasn't on keto for just few months. I was on just as long as you

Lol the funny thing is, this was the main reason why I quit keto.

When you're on keto, you're so glycogen depleted that you don't hold as much water. I can happily say that from the 15 kilos you lost, 3-5 kg (depending how overweight you were) is water.

You introduce carbs back into the diet, your body will hold more water, thanks to the glycogen. And to make it worse sodium will further help increase the water retention. Which makes you look soft and bloated.

I went on keto, got my abs. Mission accomplished. then introduced carbs back, with same calories while on keto, immediately gaining weight.

That's why I said, if youre able to sustain keto, just go for it.

Oh, fitness pal information may not be accurate. If the nasi lemak ayam that you're talking about is from lets say village park where they give whole leg, the calorie count can go up to 900 per plate. Just saying.

This post has been edited by axtray: Aug 25 2022, 11:24 AM

Still u didnt address why same or higher calorie i lost weight compared to..'normal' diet. Water weight or not i got from 38 inch size pants to 31-32. Actually the weight is nonsense because fat is lighter than muscle. If your body learn how to use fat as fuel thats the key to losing size.