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 Will you think the property market will fall soon?, will the landed property fall in 2024?

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Blofeld
post Oct 16 2022, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Oct 16 2022, 06:19 AM)
QUOTE(John00 @ Oct 16 2022, 03:04 PM)
Where do you see that?
Do you know how bad is the birth rate and marriage rate?
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Is it relevant?

Have you guys forgotten that foreigners bought up a lot of properties in Malaysia over RM1million.

I'm ok if you guys think that property prices will drop. I'm not here for an argument.
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post Oct 16 2022, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Oct 16 2022, 03:42 AM)
ppl forgot that population is rising at an alarming rate, not dropping

ppl always need to have a place to stay

so to say that property prices will fall is illogical
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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Oct 16 2022, 03:10 PM)
Is it relevant?

Have you guys forgotten that foreigners bought up a lot of properties in Malaysia over RM1million.

I'm ok if you guys think that property prices will drop. I'm not here for an argument.
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As most bought poorperly with bank loan, price rise slower (e.g price stagnant) than loan interest and expenses incurred is a financial losses.

In poorperly investment, price doesn't need to drop to be underwater.

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post Oct 16 2022, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Oct 16 2022, 04:13 PM)
As most bought poorperly with bank loan, price rise slower (e.g price stagnant) than loan interest and expenses incurred is a financial losses.

In poorperly investment, price doesn't need to drop to be underwater.
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The victims of Kuchai Lama housing proj strongly agrees…one of the sign of property crash…abandoned housing proj at PRIME LOCATION even though the proj is almost 90% sold out…its a hell of a bloodbath now in the market…auction properties on an upward trajectory…some new property lose as much as 50% of value post VP
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post Oct 24 2022, 02:27 PM

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If PRC poorperly price could drop, what's more in this country.

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post Oct 24 2022, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Oct 16 2022, 03:42 AM)
ppl forgot that population is rising at an alarming rate, not dropping

ppl always need to have a place to stay

so to say that property prices will fall is illogical
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Population rising not relevant because it’s mostly the poor people keep breeding non stop. 1 family got 5-6 anak. Do you think they can afford house when they grow up? Can but highly unlikely unless they are raise well, got good education etc.

Meanwhile upper middle class to T20 prioritise quality over quantity. 1-2 kids only.
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post Oct 24 2022, 05:24 PM

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Dont think will and never will. The trend is always uptrend since malaysia independence day for landed properties.

Either u get low cost housing or top up to get landed for better yield on investment. Condos are the worst money trap now




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post Oct 24 2022, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(Questions12345 @ Oct 24 2022, 05:24 PM)
Dont think will and never will. The trend is always uptrend since malaysia independence day for landed properties.

Either u get low cost housing or top up to get landed for better yield on investment. Condos are the worst money trap now
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You missed out economic recession in mid 1980's and AFC.

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post Oct 24 2022, 06:57 PM

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I believe with weak ringgit, and rising construction cost, hard to go lower on new developments. If wan cheap, secondary market ba

Many kena lelong is because they do compressed loan
and get cashback during peak. Now burn hand lo
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Oct 24 2022, 06:21 PM)
You missed out economic recession in mid 1980's and AFC.
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The point is landed property value is still on an uptrend. Those crisis didn't make landed cheaper. Future crisis will not as well.
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QUOTE(Questions12345 @ Oct 24 2022, 07:04 PM)
The point is landed property value is still on an uptrend. Those crisis didn't make landed cheaper. Future crisis will not as well.
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In the long term, residential value rise at about inflation rate.
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Oct 24 2022, 07:10 PM)
In the long term, residential value rise at about inflation rate.
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It's usually higher than inflation rate. 8-10%. Otherwise it's not worth investing in properties if it's about the same unless your objective is hedging against inflation.
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QUOTE(Questions12345 @ Oct 24 2022, 07:13 PM)
It's usually higher than inflation rate. 8-10%. Otherwise it's not worth investing in properties if it's about the same unless your objective is hedging against inflation.
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Residential price in usj, bu, ttdi, Puchong, ss1, ss5, ss22, etc said otherwise.

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QUOTE(Questions12345 @ Oct 24 2022, 05:24 PM)
Dont think will and never will. The trend is always uptrend since malaysia independence day for landed properties.

Either u get low cost housing or top up to get landed for better yield on investment. Condos are the worst money trap now
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i think condo prices will fall, because there is just too much supply

but for PJ houses, Bandar utama, Bangsar, Damansara Heights, Damansara Perdana, their prices will continue to soar, because no developer is building any landed double storey link house except in Shah Alam and Klang (in Kv)
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QUOTE(mezanny @ Oct 24 2022, 08:02 PM)
i think condo prices will fall, because there is just too much supply

but for PJ houses, Bandar utama, Bangsar, Damansara Heights, Damansara Perdana, their prices will continue to soar, because no developer is building any landed double storey link house except in Shah Alam and Klang (in Kv)
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Ya but dont expect condo prices to fall much. And also depending on area. Some condo prices just stay stagnant for years even when supply of condos go up. Some would drop a little. Some would continue to go up like condos in gurney area(prime area). I live in penang and that's what I have been seeing in penang. Not sure about KL or selangor. I got a condo bought almost 10 years ago for rm400k. It was so easy to rent at RM3k- RM 3.5k a month. After 10 years to now should be atleast rm6k a month right? Nope. Drop to around rm 2.5k. Conclusion is dont buy condos for now.
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QUOTE(mezanny @ Oct 24 2022, 08:02 PM)
i think condo prices will fall, because there is just too much supply

but for PJ houses, Bandar utama, Bangsar, Damansara Heights, Damansara Perdana, their prices will continue to soar, because no developer is building any landed double storey link house except in Shah Alam and Klang (in Kv)
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These landed existed for 20 to 50 years, historical price is a public record. Those on lease hold, value is likely to drop when lease is getting shorter.
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QUOTE(Questions12345 @ Oct 24 2022, 08:34 PM)
Ya but dont expect condo prices to fall much. And also depending on area. Some condo prices just stay stagnant for years even when supply of condos go up. Some would drop a little. Some would continue to go up like condos in gurney area(prime area). I live in penang and that's what I have been seeing in penang. Not sure about KL or selangor. I got a condo bought almost 10 years ago for rm400k. It was so easy to rent at RM3k- RM 3.5k a month. After 10 years to now should be atleast rm6k a month right? Nope. Drop to around rm 2.5k. Conclusion is dont buy condos for now.
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Expecting Penang kondo getting same rental like KLCC/Mont Kiara? Penang ppl isap too much factory exhaust liao
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QUOTE(elimi8z @ Oct 25 2022, 01:04 AM)
Expecting Penang kondo getting same rental like KLCC/Mont Kiara? Penang ppl isap too much factory exhaust liao
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My condo in prime area la... in georgetown. Very close to Gurney also and the heart of georgetown. 1k sqft only. Used to rent to jap expats who are working in bayan lepas since bayan lepas don't have many condos. Now condos there are mushrooming like crazy and hurting the condo rentals and prices in whole of penang.
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post Oct 25 2022, 06:26 AM

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Property prices falling is not mainly because of more units coming into the market but the starting price is unrealistic from the start.

Most newly constructed property prices will start to adjust after vp to match surrounding similar property prices and its location, unless is an exceptional piece of construction.

Land and construction cost plus profits determine selling price but freebies and rebates that kill the goose.

If subsale price is attractive and has fallen, why arent buyers entering that market and cont buying from developer ?

And why in some auction, there is only a single bidder when the price is way below snp price.

For my case, is opposite. I won an auction unit at reserved price being a single bidder and is 7% above SnP price for a new vp property this year. And seldom or rare in today auction that the reserved price is equal or above SnP price for new property and attract bidders.

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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Oct 25 2022, 06:26 AM)
Property prices falling is not mainly because of more units coming into the market but the starting price is unrealistic from the start.

Most newly constructed property prices will start to adjust after vp to match surrounding similar property prices and its location, unless is an exceptional piece of construction.

Land and construction cost plus profits determine selling price but freebies and rebates that kill the goose.

If subsale price is attractive and has fallen, why arent buyers entering that market and cont buying from developer ?

And why in some auction, there is only a single bidder when the price is way below snp price.

For my case, is opposite. I won an auction unit at reserved price being a single bidder and is 7% above SnP price for a new vp property this year. And seldom or rare in today auction that the reserved price is equal or above SnP price for new property and attract bidders.
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which area? if u bid above 7% SPA price of course no one else will enter to bid, usually wait till the price to drop another 10-20% only will attract more bidders. Do u think u bought it at a fair price? The unit I bid and won 2 years ago was more than 50% below SPA price.

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