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 Will you think the property market will fall soon?, will the landed property fall in 2024?

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post Dec 27 2023, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(lioncarlsberg @ Dec 26 2023, 08:57 PM)
Got to agree on this point. When I saw some projects proudly advertising this as "affordable" but when calculate it's RM500 psf!
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what you expect?
trying to get a property with rm2000 is only leading you to suicide
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post Dec 27 2023, 01:32 PM

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So back to the title after so many discussion here,seems like the property price will not drop and will keep on increase only...
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post Dec 27 2023, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(clyeoh1980 @ May 22 2023, 08:50 AM)
talk to property agent, they said unless that area is not develop, then the house price will drop, if not it will keep on increase. what your guys think ?
i am referring to bandar tasek mutiara....
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In almost end if 2023,the property price naik or decrease?
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post Dec 27 2023, 03:37 PM

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To me, landed property price will always stick to inflation. Except you can meet desperate seller or bid from auction mkt.

Recently my banker send me the bank value for my old house. Surprisingly it is 50% more than my initial purchase price in 2014. Of course transaction price should be 80%-90% of bank value. But from here can see how crazy was the inflation in pass two years.

The price for new developer unit for same size property is like 70% more compare to 2014. Or they made it in much smaller size...

Take my father shop as example, 8 years ago the tenant hack one of the four pieces of wall, we only collect 3k deposit since that time the rebuild cost is abt 2.5k. In October, the contractor quote the rebuild price as RM6k and not yet include paint work, so tenant pay us additional 9k as deposit for the piece of wall to renew the agreement. The rental also increased to double compare to 8 years ago.

So the question is not how soon the landed house price increase, but whether the speed of our salary or income increase can catch up with inflation or not, to me one is like with speed of KTM but anotber one is with speed of bullet train.

This post has been edited by Jingle91: Dec 27 2023, 03:39 PM
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post Dec 28 2023, 01:23 AM

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QUOTE(cms @ Dec 26 2023, 04:50 PM)
Talk so much how dont need more rooms and space, ownself buy a 3 room. Damn topkek man u
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Dec 26 2023, 07:42 PM)
thing is , not everybody like you or your friends. many of these youngsters are slaving their life, go out at 7am then go back 7pm

just because you and your friends dont have/dont want to have kids, everyone gonna do it your way
that's why
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Guys, I do have a family. Staying in a 600 sq ft studio with a kid will definitely make you go mad.

Me and my wife stayed in a sub 500 sq ft studio. No problem with it until we are planning for family

We have many friends whom do not plan to have kids. They are staying in loft/stdio unit. No issue at all. Not sure why you guys said it's too small. Most of them they make the living room into a WFH spaces, and use a removable partition wall or custom a wardrobe to separate their bedroom section. No TV, no proper dining area.

QUOTE(jrshow @ Dec 27 2023, 01:32 PM)
So back to the title after so many discussion here,seems like the property price will not drop and will keep on increase only...
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To a certain point. You need to consider depopulation and general affordability too.

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post Dec 28 2023, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(thkent91 @ Dec 28 2023, 01:23 AM)
Guys, I do have a family. Staying in a 600 sq ft studio with a kid will definitely make you go mad.

Me and my wife stayed in a sub 500 sq ft studio. No problem with it until we are planning for family

We have many friends whom do not plan to have kids. They are staying in loft/stdio unit. No issue at all. Not sure why you guys said it's too small. Most of them they make the living room into a WFH spaces, and use a removable partition wall or custom a wardrobe to separate their bedroom section. No TV, no proper dining area.
To a certain point. You need to consider depopulation and general affordability too.
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Not doubting your decision but saying one thing and doing another is really weird man. Why not just speak from your perspective i.e married with kids thus requiring a bigger space, instead of speaking on behalf of your friends that are single, married without kids therefore no need for bigger space.

Make a stand, live and die by it.

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QUOTE(Jingle91 @ Dec 27 2023, 03:37 PM)
To me, landed property price will always stick to inflation. Except you can meet desperate seller or bid from auction mkt.

Recently my banker send me the bank value for my old house. Surprisingly it is 50% more than my initial purchase price in 2014. Of course transaction price should be 80%-90% of bank value. But from here can see how crazy was the inflation in pass two years.

The price for new developer unit for same size property is like 70% more compare to 2014. Or they made it in much smaller size...

Take my father shop as example, 8 years ago the tenant hack one of the four pieces of wall, we only collect 3k deposit since that time the rebuild cost is abt 2.5k. In October, the contractor quote the rebuild price as RM6k and not yet include paint work, so tenant pay us additional 9k as deposit for the piece of wall to renew the agreement. The rental also increased to double compare to 8 years ago.

So the question is not how soon the landed house price increase, but whether the speed of our salary or income increase can catch up with inflation or not, to me one is like with speed of KTM but anotber one is with speed of bullet train.
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So u think the price will be continue to grow right?
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post Dec 28 2023, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(jrshow @ Dec 28 2023, 02:01 PM)
So u think the price will be continue to grow right?
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Not sure about condo, but for landed I believe the price will continue to grow, depend on how high is the inflation.


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post Dec 28 2023, 04:57 PM

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Don't worry. Landed properties will increase in value over longer term. Just buy, pay the installment and enjoy life
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post Dec 28 2023, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(cms @ Jul 14 2022, 05:57 PM)
There's a similar thread which has been tracking property prices since 5-8 years ago.

More active there.
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Please provide link to the thread? Thanks

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post Dec 29 2023, 08:11 AM

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QUOTE(jrshow @ Dec 27 2023, 01:32 PM)
So back to the title after so many discussion here,seems like the property price will not drop and will keep on increase only...
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Staying in an apartment in subang jaya

This time last year, a similar unit to thè one I'm staying was around RM350-360K

Now its RM380-400k

*based on Propertyguru
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post Dec 29 2023, 12:44 PM

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Price already drop. Buying Subsale place in subang. Launch price Rm800+ psft, now I manage to buy at Rm670 psft. So depends on location and when property launched. If launched during peak bull market 2012 to 2014 that time I think now can get some discount if not close to launch price
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QUOTE(Simply_Ed @ Dec 29 2023, 12:44 PM)
Price already drop. Buying Subsale place in subang. Launch price Rm800+ psft, now I manage to buy at Rm670 psft. So depends on location and when property launched. If launched during peak bull market 2012 to 2014 that time I think now can get some discount if not close to launch price
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urs 1 izzit smaller unit/and subang where gt 800 per SQ so expansive b4?
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QUOTE(jrshow @ Dec 29 2023, 07:15 AM)
urs 1 izzit smaller unit/and subang where gt 800 per SQ so expansive b4?
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Landed will increase.
Condo / Flat will stagnant / drop.
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post Dec 30 2023, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(poooky @ Dec 26 2023, 03:30 PM)
Where can I find these 100k shop apartments in KL? I'd like an affordable place for own stay, but even the cheapest 500sqft studio unit that is not even within walking distance of mrt is at least 300k. It's infuriating how expensive property is when  considering how poorly planned the city is.. uneven and poorly maintained roads, inconsistent sidewalks, poor public transportation, highways everywhere.. literally 3rd world city planning, but 1st world property prices.
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still can find if you dont mind the buruk condition lah.

These are basic accomodation oh. No facilities one. Downstairs would be shops, upstairs residence.

U can try search at mudah.my select state, KL/Sel, select apartments, select price range from 100k to 200k. The ads will show up.
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QUOTE(jrshow @ Dec 12 2023, 09:40 AM)
[KUALA LUMPUR] The majority of property agents in Malaysia say they are upbeat about the real estate sector’s outlook for 2024, with many anticipating that residential prices and rentals will increase in the next 12 months.

This was one of the key findings from a new survey by IQI, a global real estate agency network that’s also a member of Malaysia-based technology group Juwai IQI. A total of 203 agents and negotiators took part in the poll that was conducted from Nov 1 to Nov 22.

In a report accompanying the survey findings that was released on Tuesday (Dec 5), IQI noted that nine in 10 respondents (91.1 per cent) would advise a friend to buy a property, with the remaining 8.9 per cent suggesting that people should rent instead.
“The buy–rent ratio reveals strong confidence in the real estate market,” said Kashif Ansari, the co-founder and group chief executive of Juwai IQI who’s also the group CEO of IQI.

He noted that the numbers are nearly as lopsided in Kuala Lumpur and Selangor as they are country-wide, with 88.8 per cent for buying versus 11.2 per cent for renting.

He made the point that agents may recommend buying because they expect significant increases in both sales prices and rents in 2024.
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to be fair, you ask property agents of coz they will paint a rosy picture lah. otherwise how to get people to buy leh.
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post Dec 31 2023, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(iOrange @ Dec 31 2023, 10:56 AM)

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If include loan interest and maintenance fees incurred since 2015, actual losses is a lot higher than 100k.

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post Jan 5 2024, 09:50 AM

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Too many existing condos and upcoming condos.
Those with good locations have higher demands and price will stay, and if demand there, price will hike slowly.

Landed is always good, and again location location location.
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Depends whether you think long term or short term..

Long term wise (meaning > 10 yrs or more), I don't think property (regardless landed or condos) will be that attractive anymore...Forget about the boom boom years....There are a lot of factors behind this ...

Medium term (meaning 5 - 7 years), property price for landed will remained sluggish or just nice to cover inflation....

Again this is just my IMHO...and I might be wrong here...

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