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TSepjx31
post Aug 8 2022, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(usop8290 @ Aug 8 2022, 12:20 PM)
torn between nexen ru1 and toyo proxes cr1 size 225/65/17. which one is better ?
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Could not find any label indication for Toyo CR1. For Nexen RU1 , it is label A for wet and RR D.

Based on this RU1 would be my choice .
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post Aug 13 2022, 01:07 AM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Aug 12 2022, 03:51 PM)
epjx31what's the compound difference between XM2 and Primacy4ST, or rather, what are their relative strength/weakness in terms of conflict addressing?

2. Michelin tread compound cracking, seems common. Is that a problem?
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Quite a tough question you have there. I can only say looking at their performances.

XM2+ and Primacy 4st are both wet braking focus tire line with different wear targets. XM2+ has a much higher wear requirement than Primacy 4st being the comfort segment. The wet braking vs wear conflict is the biggest here from a compound point of view as the Asia market do not really care about rolling resistance. This is a very general overview without going into deeper context.

I would not worry too much about cracking which happens on the surface and does not propagate down to the core. These are mostly because of the high amount of silica they are using to achieve a high wet braking level.



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post Aug 14 2022, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(alovelyday2007 @ Aug 13 2022, 02:32 PM)
hi hi smile.gif
Which All Terrain tire make and model can replace the Toyo Proxies R45 - 235/60R18 stock tires on Honda CRV AWD , without changing the rims or modifications including no lift , spacers ... just for the rugged looks and occasional gravel roads , not serious off roading
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Had a quick look, unfortunately your tire size is more on the SUV size range. So we are mostly looking a SUV tires. No off-road products in this size. Continental UC6 SUV looks like the most off road tire in the size biggrin.gif

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post Aug 14 2022, 07:53 PM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Aug 13 2022, 10:48 AM)
Thanks a lot.

My un-educated guess, based mostly on my experience, is that the cracking is wear nature of silica rich compound tyres.

Why is it that certain tyres have good grip throughout wear, while some will give perceived lesser grip once worn >60%, or some worse just >30% will have significantly lesser grip perceived?
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I think this is a misconception. If you are talking about wet conditions, the ability to disperse water is greatly reduced as you are losing tread depth creating less channels to let the water flow out. This is one of the main reasons why you are loosing so much grip compare to new tires. The opposite is true for dry braking. The lower your tread depth, the better your dry braking as your top part of the tire gets stiffer. You can see this in most of Michelin's advertisement.
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post Aug 25 2022, 04:35 AM

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QUOTE(kabyss87 @ Aug 23 2022, 03:21 PM)
First of all, Thanks TS for sharing your invaluable experience and know how on tyre tech.  thumbsup.gif

I do have questions regarding about SUV tyres and its properties.

My current ride was a Mitsubishi ASX. Bought it used and it was fitted with a normal Max Contact 6 which is pretty good and drives well with no issue.

The tyres are due to be changed and here now is the issue, i'm in dilemma of whether to remain using the normal passenger tyres of SUV tyres.

i know Originally it was fitted with SUV tyre, but given that it is running fine with the normal one, Plus, SUV tyres are much more expensive compared to normal ones, i'm pretty reluctant to switch if the SUV variant doesnt bring any significant benefit to the ride quality or such.

And since the normal tyre can take the load well, technically there wont be an issue fitting the normal tyres?

Btw, i've never tried any SUV tyres before, therefore i cant really tell the difference. I do take the car for light off road and the current tyres are still doing fine.

Would be great if you could share with us if it really safe to do that. in a way it is also creating awareness on road safety since there are significantly more ppl opt for SUV.

Thanks.
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From my past experience, SUV tire is just a marketing name. What we are looking for is the load index of a tire when it comes to supporting the load. However some manufacturers claims to have made SUV vehicle their testing vehicle for some SUV dedicated tireline. This is commonly practice in the industry and may yield certain advantage.

As your size is somehow caught in between (215/60R17), you have an option to choose. However I would suggest to look at your main requirements like wet braking or comfort/noise to decide the best product fit rather than relying on your SUV tires or not branding. Hope this helps.
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post Aug 30 2022, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(zeng @ Aug 30 2022, 01:27 PM)
Patching of a 1 cm puncture in a normal radial ply tyre is NOT recommended by tyre manufacturers.

Maximum allowable by manufacturers is 0.6 cm though there are owners who got away  with it without encountering any problem for punctures exceeding 0.6 cm.

As for run flats, IDK but I suspect the same rule of max allowable 0.6 cm may apply here. In this context patching of 1 cm puncture may not comply with manufacturers recommendation hence replacing the one punctured tyre may make sense whilst retaining the other three.
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Hey Zeng is right here. 1 cm patching does not make sense here. Let's put it this way, if the hole penetrates pass your innerliner (the rubber part which protects air from leaking out) it means you have some kind of structural damage. We know that the main stress happens in the sidewall, however heats build up on the tread after prolong usage for example if you are doing a highway stretch.

From my point of view, you have to think about the downside. The worse thing that can happen is that your tread gives way during when you are travelling at 110 km/h on the highway as you already have structural weakness which can propagate over time. Your crown area will crumble and you will not be able to control your steering at all. This is highly dangerous and from my point of view not a risk you can ever take. I guess this is the same as everything in life, you got to have a safety margin in case anything happens and if you can not endure the downside, the risk is not worth taking at all.
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post Aug 30 2022, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(Sherman Kong @ Aug 28 2022, 11:40 PM)
Hello TS, just wanna ask if you ever heard of this brand called "Wanda", search around the web, just get to know that's a brand from China, not much information about it.
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Sorry, never heard about Wanda.

We know china brands does not handle trade offs well, for example good in wet braking but extremely bad in wear. So just managed your expectations when you buy a china brand.
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post Aug 30 2022, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(dudester @ Aug 29 2022, 12:05 PM)
Hi, Like to ask if anyone has experience with the brand Giti
My googling tells me
- Made in China
- Bobby Ang made video
- Shopee sells around 1k each for size 17!
- Seen their logo in UK tyre reviewer

Are they any good? really at 1k?
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Giti is a well known brand in the tire circles. It had a big plant in Indonesia but of course like every manufacturer it also has a china factory.

To be honest, Giti is a mid-budget brand. Tire performances are always somewhere lacking behind the top 6.

If the price suits you, maybe its worth a try but expectation wise should be tailored to the bottom end.
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post Aug 30 2022, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(joshgm_119 @ Aug 30 2022, 05:09 PM)
Hey TS

Seeing the recent question on runflats, are there any other perks of using runflats other than not having to worry about minor punctures?

Looking at the cost difference, personally I would swap out run flats and deal with flats myself.

Thanks!
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The only pure benefit of run flat is it fulfills the requirement from OE manufacturers to not have a "spare tire". This enables them to save space and can have much more freedom of design.

Run flat tires do come with some disadvantage as it uses more material in the sidewall which cost $$. That's why you are paying a higher price, not to mention the economics of scale which is not in the favor of run flat. Also it comes is a big disadvantage in rolling resistance (up to -20% down vs non -run flat). However they do provide you a peace of mind when you have a puncture.

So its up to your individual risk appetite and of course run flat is not for everyone.

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post Sep 3 2022, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(mdziaf @ Sep 3 2022, 07:12 PM)
You need to replace your tires. A buldge is an indicator that the carcass has a tear. Since the carcass is what carries the load of the tire its best to change your tires.

Curious tho what tire you are using? Not often to see a UNECE R117 marked tires made in Malaysia unless its a new tire you got with the car from the factory.
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Yes, you should replace the tire immediately. It is not safe to drive !
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post Sep 3 2022, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(faridr @ Aug 31 2022, 03:03 PM)
Hey TS, is tyre sealant necessary? Bought used car with no place for spare tyre, and old owner took the sealant and pump.

But thinking again, i never had the requirement to use sealant, mostly just pump and go to workshop and tampal.

Thinking of getting pump, not sure about sealant.
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Tire sealant is quite a good alternative to "repair" your tire temporarily. Good cheap alternative which effectively no downside (except for cost, but since you get it for free smile.gif ) No harm having it.
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post Sep 5 2022, 08:00 PM

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QUOTE(faridr @ Sep 4 2022, 05:32 PM)
Oh its not free, going to have to get a new one since old owner took it. Forgot to check about spare tyre / repair kit when inspecting the car.

Full kit around rm170.
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RM 170 is worth in my opinion for the "insurance" & peace of mind. smile.gif
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post Sep 6 2022, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(zeng @ Sep 6 2022, 11:04 AM)
Replacing high profile 70R tyres with low profile 50R should rightly be 'promoting' tramlining experience and harsher ride.

At similar tyre pressures, it should help in firmer ride reducing/controlling body roll generally.

Having said that I'm not doubting your actual driving experience or perception, more so if an alignment job was carried out during rims changes as I'd a hunch that the problem is alignment related.

I defer to TS on small sidewall bulge felt by running fingers over it and associated warranty claim in local tyre industry.
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Hi there, thanks for asking such an interesting question. I will try my best to put on my engineering cap to answer you.

1. Changing from Silverstone M3 175/70R13 to PS3 195/50R15
Your sidewall height is reduced about 55mm which should naturally means loosing comfort as more rubber on the sidewall helps you flex, however the biggest difference is you are using a PS3 top notch wet braking tire and it is of course way better than the carbon based Silverstone M3. In my opinion the grip you got comes from the compound upgrade while you having a deficit in comfort due to sidewall height.

2. Bulge
When talking about bulges you have to be careful what bulge you are talking about. Bulges which blow up like a balloon is extremely dangerous as this means you have some damage as air can push through that area to form a bulge. However I'd the bulge is in the opposite direction, (intended inside) this is totally fine as this is caused by overlapping of the ply during production. Structurally your tire is in tact and there is not safety issues.

Hope this helps

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post Sep 22 2022, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(codenchips @ Sep 21 2022, 07:01 PM)
Hi OP. Recently I've been introduced to this new German tyre GITi Sports S2.
There are little reviews on them but the individual reviews looks good.
Tire shop owner said the performance comparable to PS4/5 while being quieter and cheaper.

Wondering your expert input on the actual comparison between Giti sport s2 vs Michelin ps4/5?
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There is a good comparison here

https://www.tyrereviews.com/Article/2022-Ty...r-Tyre-Test.htm

Giti is a Singaporean brand, could be manufactured in Germany but it's not a German tire. If you look closely it's s not even close when it comes to wet and dry performances. smile.gif

I think the only drawback is ps5 prices which is always the case for Michelin tire and they know it.
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post Sep 22 2022, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(littlefire @ Sep 22 2022, 10:43 AM)
TS is tire engineer not tire reviewer..  laugh.gif Dont think he got so much time testing each tire in market..

https://www.tyrereviews.com/

Just go to this website and check other people reviews & test results if available.
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Thanks tyrereview website is awesome 😎
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post Sep 22 2022, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(devil86 @ Sep 22 2022, 12:28 AM)
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There is about 12mm less outer diameter for your new size. Usually the tolerance is about 4mm. The less sidewall hide would hinder your comfort theoretically but with the 265 widt you will have a wider foot print which helps in wet.

What is the motivation to change?
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post Sep 23 2022, 08:10 AM

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QUOTE(devil86 @ Sep 22 2022, 07:01 PM)
Because it is very hard to find an all terrain tyre for my 4x4 with the size of 255/65R18.... 😅
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Should be fine just make sure the rims as mentioned by the previous user fits also the load index should be higher or the same

This post has been edited by epjx31: Sep 23 2022, 08:10 AM
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post Oct 1 2022, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(codenchips @ Sep 23 2022, 11:26 AM)
Thanks for your reply OP smile.gif) I read the article and watched the video twice and made up my mind dy. PS5 it is!
ok your comment reaffirmed my decision. haha.
for 225/45/18 size. Giti sport S2 rm465/pc.
About RM200 difference with Michelin PS5.
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This is the irony of society, i recently saw a Porsche 911 with a China tire. I guess people don't really care what the trade off they are sacrificing until they need it. This I guess is true for most of the things in life smile.gif
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post Oct 12 2022, 08:44 AM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Oct 11 2022, 10:59 PM)
That's just their way of trying to milk customers for more money! Those valve stems are dirt cheap in shopee yet they sell 3-4x more expensive at tire shops. I never change them unless really leaking.
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I fully agree. Unless you have issues with abnormal pressure loss which possible could stem from a faulty valve, I don't think it's necessary.
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post Oct 22 2022, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(e-lite @ Oct 21 2022, 11:44 AM)
Not asking anything but a trend that I noticed epjx31

Big name brands launching tyres that are catered to the budget friendly group or competing against the China tyres. They are forgoing using more expensive materials like silica to improve long mileage and wet performance, in order to reduce selling price and cater to a budget friendly crowd.

Seems like tyre technology and R&D have peaked, where engineers are purposely engineering lousier performance in order to get cheap selling price and maintain profits.

Of course this is outside of the realm of tyres used for hypercars and f1
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To be honest, I don't see this. If you look at the top 4 premium brands (Michelin , Bridgestone, Goodyear and Continental) they are pushing all out with their flagship products. Especially Michelin.

Silica was a moon shot when it came to wet braking. While there has been improvements silica tech over the years to improve wet braking and mileage.

Hence I have a different option compared to you. If possible would like to know what brands and products that you are talking about.

Thanks

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