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beck_ken
post Jul 9 2022, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(even_steven @ Jul 9 2022, 04:30 PM)
I think the FDJ to Chelsea deal is just Barca trying to force our club for more money.

It didn't make sense. They are trying to get rid of FDJ to reduce the salary cap, pay debt and sign players that they couldn't do at the moment.

The deal with Chelsea is money plus two players. Will the two players accept lower salaries just to join Barca?

And will by just selling FDJ allow Barca to register 5 more players and still abide by the salary cap?

I don't think Lewa salary is going to be lower than what he get in Bayern.

This whole thing smells like BS from Barca to extort more money.
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post Jul 9 2022, 06:08 PM

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Summary on FDJ transfer saga:

Man United and Barcelona have agreed to a €65 million fixed fee plus €20 million in add-ons for Frenkie de Jong moving to Man United this summer.
But despite the agreement between both the clubs, the move is yet to be finalized and here's why :

1. De Jong wants to leave Barca as he's been told by Xavi he is not starting ahead of Busquets and both Pedri & Gavi are preferred in central midfield over the Dutchman.

2. Frenkie de Jong can't come out and say he wants to leave Barca for Man United because he is entitled to a €20 million loyalty bonus. If he forces the transfer, he will lose the loyalty bonus whereas if Barca forces him out, they will owe him a sum of €20 million in loyalty bonus which is the reason Barca President Joan Laporta is coming out in the press again and again saying the club is not forcing De Jong to leave, instead they wanna keep him at the club.

3. In 2019-20 season Barca were hit by economic problems and they had to give a pay cut on deferred terms to all their players. Frenkie de Jong took a deferred pay cut by 70% for three seasons and Barca owe him around €19 million in deferred salary. Frenkie de Jong and his agent want the deferred salary to be paid before he agrees personal terms with Man United. Barca do not have the money to pay him as of now.

4. Frenkie de Jong will not be a Barca player next season, even if Barca want they can not retain his place in the squad due to financial reasons. As per de Jong's contract his salary will increase every season by €50k/week and he is also entitled to an annual bonus of €5 million which means if he was to stay at Barca he will earn €400k/week and also recieve €19 million in deferred salary plus €20 million loyalty bonus plus €5 million annual bonus which equals to a whopping €62.3 million which Barca will have to spend on him next season and the club can not afford it, there is a possibility of Barca declaring bankruptcy if de Jong stays at Barca.

4. Manchester United are clam about the situation, they do not want to rush and overpay for this deal. Erik ten Hag speaks with Frenkie de Jong every day, the player is excited and ready to reunite with ten Hag but can't openly admit it due to the reasons mentioned above. Man United are confident the deal will happen but it can take a few more days.

5. Barca will activate the second economic levers on 12th of July by selling 49% of their Merchandise and Licensing rights to American company Fanatics through which they will receive €400 million to balance their accounts and use 20% of that capital to pay deferred salaries of the players. Frenkie de Jong is waiting for Barca to pay his deferred salary after which he will discuss personal terms with Man United and the deal will be completed.

6. Frenkie de Jong will be a Manchester United player next season, there's an agreement between both Man United and Barca, it's just a matter of time before Barca pay what they owe to De Jong and the deal advances.

NOTE - BARCELONA DO NOT HAVE ANY OTHER OPTION BUT TO SELL DE JONG. HE IS THEIR HIGHEST PAID PLAYER AND THE CLUB WILL HAVE TO SPEND €63 MILLION ON HIM NEXT SEASON IF THEY WISH TO KEEP HIM WHICH IS NOT POSSIBLE AS PER THEIR BALANCE BOOKS.

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post Jul 9 2022, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jul 9 2022, 06:08 PM)
Summary on FDJ transfer saga:

Man United and Barcelona have agreed to a €65 million fixed fee plus €20 million in add-ons for Frenkie de Jong moving to Man United this summer.
But despite the agreement between both the clubs, the move is yet to be finalized and here's why :

1.  De Jong wants to leave Barca as he's been told by Xavi he is not starting ahead of Busquets and both Pedri & Gavi are preferred in central midfield over the Dutchman.

2. Frenkie de Jong can't come out and say he wants to leave Barca for Man United because he is entitled to a €20 million loyalty bonus. If he forces the transfer, he will lose the loyalty bonus whereas if Barca forces him out, they will owe him a sum of €20 million in loyalty bonus which is the reason Barca President Joan Laporta is coming out in the press again and again saying the club is not forcing De Jong to leave, instead they wanna keep him at the club.

3. In 2019-20 season Barca were hit by economic problems and they had to give a pay cut on deferred terms to all their players. Frenkie de Jong took a deferred pay cut by 70% for three seasons and Barca owe him around €19 million in deferred salary.  Frenkie de Jong and his agent want the deferred salary to be paid before he agrees personal terms with Man United. Barca do not have the money to pay him as of now.

4. Frenkie de Jong will not be a Barca player next season, even if Barca want they can not retain his place in the squad due to financial reasons. As per de Jong's contract his salary will increase every season by €50k/week and he is also entitled to an annual bonus of €5 million which means if he was to stay at Barca he will earn €400k/week and also recieve €19 million in deferred salary plus €20 million loyalty bonus plus €5 million annual bonus which equals to a whopping €62.3 million which Barca will have to spend on him next season and the club can not afford it, there is a possibility of Barca declaring bankruptcy if de Jong stays at Barca.

4. Manchester United are clam about the situation, they do not want to rush and overpay for this deal. Erik ten Hag speaks with Frenkie de Jong every day, the player is excited and ready to reunite with ten Hag but can't openly admit it due to the reasons mentioned above. Man United are confident the deal will happen but it can take a few more days.

5. Barca will activate the second economic levers on 12th of July by selling 49% of their Merchandise and Licensing rights to American company Fanatics through which they will receive €400 million to balance their accounts and use 20% of that capital to pay deferred salaries of the players. Frenkie de Jong is waiting for Barca to pay his deferred salary after which he will discuss personal terms with Man United and the deal will be completed.

6. Frenkie de Jong will be a Manchester United player next season, there's an agreement between both Man United and Barca, it's just a matter of time before Barca pay what they owe to De Jong and the deal advances.

NOTE - BARCELONA DO NOT HAVE ANY OTHER OPTION BUT TO SELL DE JONG. HE IS THEIR HIGHEST PAID PLAYER AND THE CLUB WILL HAVE TO SPEND €63 MILLION ON HIM NEXT SEASON IF THEY WISH TO KEEP HIM WHICH IS NOT POSSIBLE AS PER THEIR BALANCE BOOKS.
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i read somewherr mutrough n scout have ask to change transfer target but it was ten Hag who stubborn want them to stick with FDJ because he said FDJ is worth the wait

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post Jul 9 2022, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(orga_laut @ Jul 8 2022, 06:03 PM)
ugly.. but the fans will buy it anyway

remember 2013 kit? most of the fans it was super ugly when it launched but then we became champions.

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maybe its a blessing in disguise under tenhag  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif
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I hope the jinx ugly kit = Champion is truth

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post Jul 9 2022, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(8080733 @ Jul 9 2022, 07:04 PM)
I hope the jinx ugly kit = Champion is truth

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The retro jacket, anthem jacket and dna jacket mmg nice lah.. but already got 2 jackets 🤣 one Nike and one Adidas apa lagi mau 😬
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post Jul 10 2022, 08:06 AM

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QUOTE(damnself @ Jul 9 2022, 09:51 PM)
The retro jacket, anthem jacket and dna jacket mmg nice lah.. but already got 2 jackets 🤣 one Nike and one Adidas apa lagi mau 😬
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Buy more to support glazers 😅🤭🤭
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post Jul 10 2022, 08:21 AM

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i kinda like the new jersey. but the colar can be better
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post Jul 10 2022, 01:17 PM

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Relax mancs
It is not 11:59pm 31.08.2022 yet
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post Jul 10 2022, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(and85rew @ Jul 10 2022, 01:17 PM)
Relax mancs
It is not 11:59pm 31.08.2022 yet
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Aug 7 is our opening game against Brighton.
Followed by Aug 14 against Brentford.

Then on Aug 23rd it is Liverpool at Old Trafford.

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post Jul 10 2022, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jul 10 2022, 01:26 PM)
Aug 7 is our opening game against Brighton.
Followed by Aug 14 against Brentford.

Then on Aug 23rd it is Liverpool at Old Trafford.
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It is ok la
At this rate, Arnold likely gonna repeat Woodward's (1st transfer window) last minute signing of Fellaini due to disasterous transfer window tongue.gif

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post Jul 10 2022, 03:43 PM

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I don't quite understand why players want to stay/join Barca when they are struggling to even pay the salary to the point where players had to defer it for years to come.

I suspected FdJ wanted to stay only to get back his deferred salary but Raphina, Lewan, etc still want to join a club that doesn't pay players salary.
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post Jul 10 2022, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jul 10 2022, 08:06 AM)
Buy more to support glazers 😅🤭🤭
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Considering I haven’t missed all three jerseys a season from 1990-2014 and already stop collecting jersey the past 8 years, and still Glazers still the owner, you know I know they will still be the owner lah unless somebody buy the club from them 🤣

Stop buying will not change the owner 😙

I’m still waiting oil money to buy so can fight with city. Manchester Arab United vs Manchester Arab City 👀
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QUOTE(and85rew @ Jul 10 2022, 01:45 PM)
It is ok la
At this rate, Arnold likely gonna repeat Woodward's (1st transfer window) last minute signing of Fellaini due to disasterous transfer window tongue.gif
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Ok so who is “our fellaini” this season? 👀
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post Jul 10 2022, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(Winter-3 @ Jul 10 2022, 03:43 PM)
I don't quite understand why players want to stay/join Barca when they are struggling to even pay the salary to the point where players had to defer it for years to come. 

I suspected FdJ wanted to stay only to get back his deferred salary but Raphina, Lewan, etc still want to join a club that doesn't pay players salary.
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Politician likely kencing the players la. “We can get this team back to the place that we belong”
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post Jul 10 2022, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(damnself @ Jul 10 2022, 03:53 PM)
Considering I haven’t missed all three jerseys a season from 1990-2014 and already stop collecting jersey the past 8 years, and still Glazers still the owner, you know I know they will still be the owner lah unless somebody buy the club from them 🤣

Stop buying will not change the owner 😙

I’m still waiting oil money to buy so can fight with city. Manchester Arab United vs Manchester Arab City 👀
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wait for end of seasons clearance.

https://www.adidas.com.my/en/manchester-uni...Size=FM4292_560

gonna buy this Rm70 after discount rclxm9.gif
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post Jul 10 2022, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(Winter-3 @ Jul 10 2022, 03:43 PM)
I don't quite understand why players want to stay/join Barca when they are struggling to even pay the salary to the point where players had to defer it for years to come. 

I suspected FdJ wanted to stay only to get back his deferred salary but Raphina, Lewan, etc still want to join a club that doesn't pay players salary.
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The Dutch influence is damn strong in Barca. Cruyff, Lvg, Kluivert. In a team that has always shone, not like MUFC sometimes playing in the mud huffing long balls. Not all people like us grew up with only the epl on telly. Even today, La Liga has always been more marketable. So can’t blame them for wanting to follow in the footsteps of their heroes.


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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Jul 10 2022, 04:33 PM)
wait for end of seasons clearance.

https://www.adidas.com.my/en/manchester-uni...Size=FM4292_560

gonna buy this Rm70 after discount  rclxm9.gif
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Nice. I bought last season anthem jacket for rm150. Got less rm200. Ask a friend of a friend who work at Adidas to get that 60% staff discount 😅
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post Jul 10 2022, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(Winter-3 @ Jul 10 2022, 03:43 PM)
I don't quite understand why players want to stay/join Barca when they are struggling to even pay the salary to the point where players had to defer it for years to come. 

I suspected FdJ wanted to stay only to get back his deferred salary but Raphina, Lewan, etc still want to join a club that doesn't pay players salary.
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Legacy is strong.
Like us here keep supporting United despite the club being badly run for ages.

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post Jul 10 2022, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jul 10 2022, 06:40 PM)
Legacy is strong.
Like us here keep supporting United despite the club being badly run for ages.
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Supporting the club, yes I can understand. But these players are essentially employees. I can't imagine myself wanting to continue working for my employer who has continually lowering/not paying my wages monthly no matter how legendary the employer is. Most likely, I will bring this to the labour office attention. But then again, these are football players, maybe their contracts and working culture are different from me.
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post Jul 10 2022, 08:28 PM

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