The Dutch influence is damn strong in Barca. Cruyff, Lvg, Kluivert. In a team that has always shone, not like MUFC sometimes playing in the mud huffing long balls. Not all people like us grew up with only the epl on telly. Even today, La Liga has always been more marketable. So can’t blame them for wanting to follow in the footsteps of their heroes.

Gone. With Maguire in the lead we have nothing to fear (except) the worst.

To put things into perspective, ETH has only seen him train once or twice.

I am also part of the confused gang. As of yesterday before Raphinha and Kessie if their wage budget exceeds (as spilled out by the FDJ saga) then surely Barca at beyond exceed today.
So, then can someone enlighten me on exactly what will happen when season starts and FDJ is still on their books?

The only positive I see is that once we forcefully wed FDJ I think he won't be dreaming of "moving to Barca" next time.

This post has been edited by lee82gx: Jul 13 2022, 03:16 PM

"free"?

It’s right for us to Frozen Kaw him, (“Let it go”). But it’s absolutely not right to ask him to accept lowered wages. Imagine it happens to you. You agree to work for rm1000. One day business bad, you agree to DEFER that amount to next year. Means you work as usual and only get rm500. Come next year actually the company business is fair, they summore hire MORE workers. But to keep it “fair” your company ask you to forego that, and then on top of that, ask you to reduce your future pay that you both agreed.

No amount of love can overcome this mang.

So in the end they self scam and everything A-OK? Confusing kan?

I was never optimistic for FDJ, and I won't even say boo to all my brothers who wanted / believed / hoped / hyped for him to join us.

Just another Sneijder. In the end both Frenkie and Barca was just using us to gain an upper hand in their dirty dirty pay disputes. "You don't wanna take pay cut - ok go". "You wanna save some salary - fine pay me first but I won't go".

Why oh why are we so hot for this dude? We are being dragged through the mud for this. Macam lah there is no other midfielder in the world that can do what he does.

Neves FTW. I always admired him, fits the profile and can be brought to higher level.

Lisandro - I'm thinking even Varane got bullied in EPL, now we want a smaller and shorter dude??? Well seriously a grandma is better than a fridge so ok lah.

we also need the CB that is not prone to mistakes and own goals, quick in a turn, don't get turned, aware of the game and positioning, won't self release the offside trap.
You know, the regular CB jobs when we do don't actually have the ball.

But, ok, lets see how well he does.

i never ever watch other team's players videos because they are always cut and snipped for the good or bad parts just to show certain aspects. But, if you say he is good I certainly have hope.

But in a heading contest if you aint tall enough you aint tall enough. And EPL is a heading contest 95% of the time against the lower teams and 5% of the time you are playing Haaland and Salah. Pick your poison.



I understand the part that he can play in a "Ajax system" and we have recently hired an "Ajax manager". In the terms of an physical engine or cpu or whatever, if your engine spoil you should get an exact replacement......which brings me to :
- What if we get him and he injured? Our whole team no need play or what? ETH won the league without Frenkie also, so I must assume there is more than 1 person for that role. Another way to look at it is Barca won nothing with Frenkie.

Martinez is now the backup for not getting FDJ, ie he is not CB? Ok, now we are getting somewhere. This is not marriage where you supposedly find your ideal wife and live with her forever. Let him / her / them actually decide whether they want to join MUFC or not la. Apa so susah.

actually they have the infamous 2nd economic lever which will supposedly increase their income by 300M euro, so i suppose by then their salary cap will change, right?

that means all they have to do is get everyone to sign deferments again (and again).

all i can say is they can crash their own cars any way they like. all i see is their vehicle still moving and they appear happy.

at the same time we are pining for one of their passengers.

eih, i tot Lisandro here we go on Thursday? Sudah Friday leh....

sign 1000 CB also no use, if Manager plays him every week.

Hang on didn’t someone (was it you?) who said no matter what lever they cannot register due to based on last season’s revenues?

From what I read from Barca trumpeting, they CAN register and move on with their so called second economic lever., all along. They prefer to have FDJ off their books but it’s not necessary for it to happen. Perhaps they have been telling the truth all along. (I have no way of knowing which is real, your original version or what I read).

Who cares, maybe out of “love” FDJ did really sign another deferment. IE, Barca used MUFC to their advantage, accepted the bid and used it to force poor frenkie to do it, and out of desperation and love (for €17M) he had no choice but to sign a reduction in salary. You CAN keep an unhappy player in the team if you owe him money. Or it was FDJ who used MUFC, and encouraged them to bid for him to force Barca to offer more concrete terms of the back pay or to ensure they will execute ALL of the loyalty bonuses owed to Frenkie.

Fabregas, Ramos, Sneijder et al have already shown the way.

End of the day he just truthfully didn’t wanna come. Why we can’t accept this and cling to his pants leg I don’t understand.

ETH has been wearing a green hat and we have shown again that we are just desperate but not rich enough. Would’ve been memalukan, except that these days we are well below that level, just another piece of crap on a already smelly face.

Let’s all move along la. Murtough and Dick also can officially claim Barca pub and beer is so great they flew there for 2 pints. Who is Frenkie De Jong? Never heard of him.

More importantly, does this mean ETH can out? No way to play his total football? Missing the crucial piece of the puzzle? Takkan lah, takkan lah x100000 there is no other player in this period that can kick a round size 5 air filled object the way he can…..

Management if pay £100M settle Barca’s tab on the spot you think Frenkie won’t come licking MUFC badge?
At some point I respect them that they are doing good business but if they hire a guy and he insists to sign 1 particular donkey out of so many horses in the stable, whose damn fault is it? Management or manager?


That’s why I say he wearing the biggest green hat in football right now. Schooled by his own student….would’ve been Ole when Haaland signs for MC owai…

heinze is still one of my most liked LB's. I cried a little when he went cuckoo with the transfer request, but boy did uncle Pat bring us good times.

Based on what we interpret as ETH's intense and single minded desire for Frenkie, wouldn't it be acceptable to pay the 17M Euros premium to release Frenkie? What is really another 20M when you think about success vs failure in football. Unless Frenkie really doesn't want to come at any price. Which means we are chasing the wind.

Then we are all watching a maestro conduct an orchestra without a first violin, ie might as well forget it.

I'm of the opinion (which everyone can ignore) that this boy perhaps really does not want to come, but is slyly encouraging his old boss to come and get him, but is just using this poor sod to get what he wants (backdated $$$ of course). Again, this has happened before. And will happen again.

Isn't it more like ETH just trying to lay the frameworks of excuses for his own potential failure by pre-blaming the club not being able to secure the services of 1 single individual?

There was a time when I really hate RM when I was a Barca fan. Of course I long since stopped paying attention ever since I really fell in love with MUFC and the red way. Now it’s hard for me to even shed a tear if they really crash. In sports you really get what you deserve. Combining financial accounting hocus pocus with gambling with politicians is guarantee of disaster….

for 400k euros per week AND 17M in back pay you can play me in ball boy position - I don't really care.

I already well past Acceptance in my 5 stages of grief with this fella.