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lonely66
post Oct 28 2012, 02:17 AM

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So I told this guy that I wanted to buy his stuff and I'm needing it urgently as I don't have a phone in hand at the moment. We agreed on a price which is much much lower than his original price and he told me he will be in Timessquare and he has no transport to go any other place, so I drove from Subang to Timesquare to find him. When I reach there I couldn't find any public phones so I went to Low Yat to call him, he told me he didn't bring the package as the price was too low for him. I went home and couldn't find any message from him notifying me earlier.

Until now I still haven't receive any apology messages from him. He is seriously the most unsincere LYN member that I've ever met.

Below are the conversation between me n him.
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RED- we do agree the price is rm650, but your last message u still wanna nego n as i told u im going out, so im not sure u want to buy or not, that why i did not bring the set out.

GREEN- yes, im going to time square but from the message, did u say what time u r coming ? so i assume u r just asking. when cod u must have time n location.

BLUE - i never say that. we agree on the price is rm650 but u still wanna nego.

PURPLE- as i told u, im going out, how to reply u ? u see, no confirmation of the price n time , how to cod ? then suddenly u say u reach around time square area. how u want me to respond ? the hp is not with me. u say call me with public phone but the number is 012-673 xxxx , so who phone is this

This is the full pm conversation between u n me...

This post has been edited by lonely66: Oct 28 2012, 02:25 AM
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post Oct 28 2012, 07:42 AM

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QUOTE(lonely66 @ Oct 28 2012, 02:17 AM)
So I told this guy that I wanted to buy his stuff and I'm needing it urgently as I don't have a phone in hand at the moment. We agreed on a price which is much much lower than his original price and he told me he will be in Timessquare and he has no transport to go any other place, so I drove from Subang to Timesquare to find him. When I reach there I couldn't find any public phones so I went to Low Yat to call him, he told me he didn't bring the package as the price was too low for him. I went home and couldn't find any message from him notifying me earlier.

Until now I still haven't receive any apology messages from him. He is seriously the most unsincere LYN member that I've ever met.

Below are the conversation between me n him.
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RED- we do agree the price is rm650, but your last message u still wanna nego n as i told u im going out, so im not sure u want to buy or not, that why i did not bring the set out.

GREEN- yes, im going to time square but from the message, did u say what time u r coming ? so i assume u r just asking. when cod u must have time n location.

BLUE - i never say that. we agree on the price is rm650 but u still wanna nego.

PURPLE- as i told u, im going out, how to reply u ? u see, no confirmation of the price n time , how to cod ? then suddenly u say u reach around time square area. how u want me to respond ? the hp is not with me. u say call me with public phone but the number is 012-673 xxxx , so who phone is this

This is the full pm conversation between u n me...
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that is the public phone i use downstairs of the monorail. u will see it in red booth. try and call n see what number it displays
lonely66
post Oct 28 2012, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(albin @ Oct 28 2012, 07:42 AM)
that is the public phone i use downstairs of the monorail. u will see it in red booth. try and call n see what number it displays
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when COD , we need to confirm the price, time, location n have each other hp number.

why u suddenly pop up in time square maybe YOU THINK i should be there waiting for u. but u see....we dont have COD time, still haven agree on the price n i dont have your hp number, only location.....so how to COD ?

even until now i also dont have your hp number.

and from the conversation, did we make any proper appointment ? if we didnt make any proper appointment , how can i FFK you ?
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post Oct 28 2012, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(lonely66 @ Oct 28 2012, 01:59 PM)
when COD , we need to confirm the price, time, location n have each other hp number.

why u suddenly pop up in time square maybe YOU THINK i should be there waiting for u. but u see....we dont have COD time, still haven agree on the price n i dont have your hp number, only location.....so how to COD ?

even until now i also dont have your hp number.

and from the conversation, did we make any proper appointment ? if we didnt make any proper appointment , how can i FFK you ?
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pls, u said: call with public phone la. means when i reach there i call u with public phone isit? i don't have a phone now and if u have my number u won't be able to call me ain't it? U'd really wasted my time and until now I haven't receive any apology from you yet.

You really think you didn't do anything didn't you? Seriously you're the worst seller I'd met in this forum.
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post Oct 30 2012, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(lonely66 @ Oct 28 2012, 01:59 PM)
when COD , we need to confirm the price, time, location n have each other hp number.

why u suddenly pop up in time square maybe YOU THINK i should be there waiting for u. but u see....we dont have COD time, still haven agree on the price n i dont have your hp number, only location.....so how to COD ?

even until now i also dont have your hp number.

and from the conversation, did we make any proper appointment ? if we didnt make any proper appointment , how can i FFK you ?
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such an axx .. FFK people like that and take it as it was nothing . You knew he dint have a phone all along and he will call you as soon as he reach there but you dint wait for it , i gues you have sold it for a higher price
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QUOTE(lonely66 @ Oct 28 2012, 01:59 PM)
when COD , we need to confirm the price, time, location n have each other hp number.

why u suddenly pop up in time square maybe YOU THINK i should be there waiting for u. but u see....we dont have COD time, still haven agree on the price n i dont have your hp number, only location.....so how to COD ?

even until now i also dont have your hp number.

and from the conversation, did we make any proper appointment ? if we didnt make any proper appointment , how can i FFK you ?
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Lol, u ffk people la... still dont admit...obviously..
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post Nov 1 2012, 07:45 PM

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post Nov 2 2012, 10:28 PM

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this item, monday 29/10/2012 , i called to juzsell aka bennie said i wanna buy, he said sunway area, i said i come now, that time was around 10pm, he asked me to wait another 30min then only come, he asked me reach at 11pm, ok i reached there, kfc outside pyramid, it was raining that night, called him like 10 times at least no pick up, waited for 30min the gave up, and he dare me to buy his another on sales product here

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post Nov 22 2012, 05:42 PM

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FFker/SCAM/Conman? -----------> mrwar5669 contact no: 0123056865 http://forum.lowyat.net/user/mrwar5669 all items on sales veri low price. sound like too good 2 b true, probably trap? pm him he pm contact his phone but i sms him many times nver reply me bk hmm.gif trying 2 cover up, sumting veri fishi wif tis seller hmm.gif juz wan 2 share tis wif u guys here hmm.gif too many con case, hav 2 b alert all d time dealing wif unknown ppl nowsdays.

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post Nov 29 2012, 02:19 AM

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QUOTE(zerohunter @ Nov 2 2012, 10:28 PM)
this item, monday 29/10/2012 , i called to juzsell aka bennie said i wanna buy, he said sunway area, i said i come now, that time was around 10pm, he asked me to wait another 30min then only come, he asked me reach at 11pm, ok i reached there, kfc outside pyramid, it was raining that night, called him like 10 times at least no pick up, waited for 30min the gave up, and he dare me to buy his another on sales product here

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Juzsell @ Bennie.. he is the king of FFK.. but he is trusted seller.. Hahahahaha

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sakurazz
post Dec 5 2012, 10:55 PM

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Forumer you are complaining against: y05h05 (Link)

Item being sold/bought: Samsung Galaxy Note 2 Casing & Accessories

Original thread link: Through PM / WhatsApp

Date of transaction: From 25th October 2012

Details of the complaint :

25th October 2012
Initially looking for 2 case, 1 not in stock.
As agreed in pm, decided to meet up at McD Bandar Sri Damansara @ 9.30pm for 1 Case for SGN2. Whatsapp-ed his number in PM.

Later in Whatsapp, buzz me again say his plan had changed and will be staying in KL till sunday (seriously got no idea, check with his previous sales thread, all COD locations in kepong/kl). Anyway zero doubt with it, he say he will be waiting another case's arrival which initially out of stock. Agreed with that as next batches case coming next day after.

Final confirmation of the day, 3 back case from buyer.

26th October 2012
Buzz me again to ask for order status. Replied arrived.
This time requesting to meet at setapak, totally out of my COD ranges, disagreed and i suggested McD BSD (initial place to meet yesterday) and another place to meet in 2 different time range.

Later he replied he will contact me again as his otw to Genting Highlands.

29th October 2012
3 days later, received msg in whatsapp requesting to COD and i replied stocks totally emptied.
Asked ETA of next batch

1st November 2012
Asking for stocks arrival again and insisting to COD no matter any availability of either flips or back case.
Finally Supershield in stock, now he want another flip and from 3 back case to 1 back case.
Requesting to COD at Kota Damansara, far apart from my place. He suggested to meet at initial agreed place (McD BSD).

Didn't mentioned any confirmation time until 2.23pm, asking for immidiate COD, i suggested 4pm at Sierramas Roundabout as i'll be there and the place is nearest to Kota Damansara.

Zero replies again until 3.52pm, asking to meet at The Curve again.
I'm enough with it, tell him McD BSD (initial meeting point), now he say he don't know to go there from 1Utama. Great!

Buzz him few messages around, as usual. NO REPLY

6.43pm later buzz me again, asking for postage.
Alright, payment details sent. NO MORE UPDATES ANYMORE

15th November 2012
Asking for COD again.

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bee1927
post Dec 28 2012, 03:10 PM

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Forumer you are complaining against: ramu ram

Never turn up for job interview as promise when he decided to commit to a job application at Job Enlistment.

Original thread link: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2180062&hl=

Details of the complaint :
Nick Name : ramu ram (Amardeep) Tel:- 0189881313(Mobile)

ramu ram


He send me the resume and promise to come for an interview and FFK 2 times and give me so many excuse. Im trying to give him so many chances but he does know the word "Appreciate". Anyhow, i just post here for employer that decided to take up this guy. Good Luck to you.


Conversation with Ramu & Bee : *Employer = HR Manager

Ramu = Nov 6 2012, 11:17 PM : Im interested in the warehouse manager position. can i get more details on the position?

Ramu = Nov 26 2012, 07:15 PM : was okay. Empoyer will be calling me again this week to set an interview date.

Ramu = Nov 27 2012, 12:55 PM : Employer called to brief on PNG only yet. Employer will be calling again this week to set for an interview..

Bee = Dec 1 2012, 08:50 AM : hey.. Employer call you many times.. can u please answer his call. if not.. please return his call.. appreciated your reply.

Ramu = Dec 1 2012, 12:32 PM : Hi, i have replied his email.i lost my phone.thats why he couldnt get me.sorry.

Bee = Dec 1 2012, 01:00 PM : Oic.. no worries fren.. i will let him know about it.. please reply to him or send him your new mobile number. thanks.

Ramu = Dec 1 2012, 01:10 PM : im financially a little tight now,will be getting a cheap mobile soo. latest by wednesday. anyways, Employer have accepted me and gave his offer, he is waiting for my acceptance.i will be calling him as soon as possible.

Bee = Dec 1 2012, 02:55 PM : ok ok .. good.. perfect..

Ramu = Dec 9 2012, 08:50 PM : i am sorting out some issues. i will be available to start on 1st of feb 2013. i got some issues with my previous company.

Bee = Dec 10 2012, 05:59 AM : yes.. no worries on starting on 1st of Feb 2013 but we need to prepare you to get the working permit and visa application. is a long process. therefore we need to confirm you are keen and meet up with Employer to discuss all. i appreciated your honest explantion. To be clear, we just hope you solve with your previous company soon. but at our side you need to let me know are you taking up this offer?

Ramu = Dec 10 2012, 10:07 AM : will it be in the warehouse or hotel? i will be able to meet up with employer once i get sorted out with my issues.. if anything is needed from my side,i can always email

Bee = Dec 11 2012, 06:15 AM : You will be based at Hotel as mentioned by Employer. Yes i know you have some personal issues. But Employer prefer to be on the phone. If you worry about the phone charges, jus text him, he will call you. I totally understand your situation. If you prefer email, please reply your email to him promptly. I will send you an email today and please indicated the date you are available to meet up with Employer. If not, we shall just let go this opportunity to someone else. Im trying so hard to hold this position for you because my director have a few candidates. Hope you know what i mean.

Bee = Dec 17 2012, 10:26 AM : I feel very disappointed on your act on this job application.
I know you face lots of problem in your current work but the thing is you need be responsible to your new job application.
At least acknowledge people that are you going to meet them or not. Anyway, i decided not to employ you. I will even post up at forum to let everyone know how is your personality in handling job application. I help you out so much to get this job, but you destroy it. Totally unacceptable.

Ramu = Dec 17 2012, 10:32 AM : i have spoke to Employer and im having an interview with him on the 22nd of dec. in melaka.

Bee = Dec 17 2012, 10:40 AM : When did you spoke to him ? Employer mentioned to me you did not turn up on last saturday for the interview.

Ramu = Dec 17 2012, 10:50 AM : the interview date was 22nd dec.. last week was 15th of dec. i spoke to him last week. i told him i will be seeing him on the 22nd.. and he agreed.. last saturday was only 15th..

Bee = Today 28 Dec, 10:26 AM : 22 Past !!! DID YOU MEET UP with EMPLOYER

Bee = Today 28 Dec, 12:45 PM : Dont be a coward.. Explain to me before i report you at LYN Dispute Corner. This is really disappointing as people are here giving you opportunity but you flick it away just like this. I need a good explanation from yourside. Since you already posted you are looking for other job. I think we just give up on you.

Ramu = Today 28 Dec, 01:00 PM: i waited for your respond to see. as u were saying "I feel very disappointed on your act on this job application.
I know you face lots of problem in your current work but the thing is you need be responsible to your new job application.
At least acknowledge people that are you going to meet them or not.
Anyway, i decided not to employ you. I will even post up at forum to let everyone know how is your personality in handling job application.
I help you out so much to get this job, but you destroy it. Totally unacceptable. "
i waited for ur respond to my reply. but i didnt get the respond. and i dont need that job anymore. you can post as u want.

Ramu = Today 28 Dec, 01:02 PM : you have already said this "Anyway, i decided not to employ you"
and u did not say that i can STILL attend the interview.

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Above conversation are the content from PM.
Really disappointed with this guy.. please don't mess up with other employer in future.

This post has been edited by bee1927: Dec 28 2012, 03:14 PM
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post Dec 28 2012, 05:19 PM

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Complaint against markju_86:
A very irresponsible seller..after confirm the deal and promised to arrange for COD then stop replying for 3 days, now suddenly sold the item to other buyer..

markju_86 profile:
http://forum.lowyat.net/user/markju_86

I know mod had clearly stated that dispute center is not the place to lodge complaint against ffker..but why keep ffker and irresponsible seller to remain active in tradezone without any action taken against them? It's not impossible for those with authority, such as mod to do smtg against those sellers right? at least gv them a tag to differentiate them from others so ppl will be more aware of them and so to prevent occurrence of unhappy trade in the future? Prevention is always better than cure, no? why we must wait till smtg had taken place then only action will be taken to amend it??

I won't tell me story here since it makes no difference when no action will be taken when no money is involved..but do understand that also apart from money, how about time loss? isn't time precious too??

sakurazz
post Jan 4 2013, 05:49 PM

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Forumer you are complaining against: hatred__ (Link)

Item being sold/bought: iPad Mini Accessories

Original thread link: Through WhatsApp

Date of transaction: 10th December 2012

Details of the complaint :

10th December 2012

-WhatsApp buzzing me asking for stocks availability.
-Confirmed purchasing and promise to bank in by night.
-No Reply After banking details provided.

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sakurazz
post Jan 4 2013, 06:22 PM

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Forumer you are complaining against: justiface (Link)

Item being sold/bought: iPhone 5 Accessories

Original thread link: Through WhatsApp

Date of transaction: 27th December 2012

Details of the complaint :

27th December 2012
-WhatsApp me ask for stocks availability of other items. and also ask when can COD

-Suggest to meet @ 9PM that night on Caltex LDP. buyer requested to meet at Menjalara.

-Time was appointed to be @ 10PM.

-An Hour later, WhatsApp buyer that i shall be able to arrive @ 9.35-9.40pm

-Inquiry me that is SP application provided. After rounds of chatting, agrees to apply for him as he claims that he ruined tonnes of sp before.

-After loads of inquiring again, confirming purchasing of 2 items and replying that meeting me @ 9.40pm

-8.45pm, WhatsApp me that he thinks that he can't make it on appointed time.

-Negotiations been made and i rejected to meet @ 10.30pm-11.00pm as i had to be in Subang.

-Immidiate reply of buyer that he try to make it on time, if not he will tell me.

-9.21pm later, i WhatsApp again in confirming whether can buyer make it anot, no future replies.

-5 minutes later, still no intention of replying in whatsapp from buyer although status shown 'online'. Decided to make a call as to confirm whether meeting or not as my house was not in walking distance. had to drive 20 minutes there.

-Here's apart of conversation details:
~ Hi bro, so how was it? no replies from u in WhatsApp
Answer : i call u back later. *cut off line immidiately*

-2th Jan, WhatsApp him again and yet no replies. Certified FFK

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post Jan 5 2013, 09:25 AM

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Just want to highlight another FFK buyer:

Username: Leppskoy

Chain of Events:
1. I put up my post to sell my iPhone 4S
2. Buyer responded as serious buyer. Negotiated price.
3. Buyer agreed on price and ask for number and COD location and time.
4. I double-confirmed if he is buying and he says he is serious buyer. So I gave him number.
5. Agreed to meet at LRT Kelana Jaya at 6.30pm. Buyer says "okay see you this evening. got whatsapp? anything i whatsapp you".
6. I replied that I have whatsapp. I also realized buyer didn't give me his number. PM him a few times to reconfirm meeting and also to get his number but he MIA.
7. Nevertheless I turned up at Kelana Jaya LRT station @ 6.30pm. Weather was heavy rain and road totally jammed.
8. Buyer didn't turn up. Left a few PMs to let him know I am there and waiting.
9. No PM replies, no whatsapp, so I left.
10. 1 Day later still no sight, no sound. Also not logged in.

Really disappointed at this type of buyer. If got cold feet and dont want to buy, can just at least PM to let seller know. Doesn't cost anything. At least seller don't have to waste time, petrol, brave the weather and jam to meet.

Just ranting and hopefully this can help someone else who might deal with this guy again.

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post Jan 8 2013, 06:55 PM

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Forumer you are complaining against: carlitofreak

Item being sold/bought: iPhone 5 screen and back protectors from Spigen SGP

Original thread link: Posted in the iPhone sub-forum

Date of transaction: 6/1/13

Details of the complaint :

I ordered a set of SGP Ultra Crystal Dual screen protectors from eBay. After that I saw a bumper case I really liked (SGP Linear Ex Slim Metal) and decided to order it. As the case comes with screen and back protectors already, I decided to sell them as I wanted a crystal back protector for the rear aluminium and a matte one comes with the case.

I am a regular poster in the iPhone sub-forum and posted about this in the screen protector, casing, etc. thread there the day I bought the case (20th Dec 2012). This forumer PM-ed me about it and I told him that the case will take about 2 weeks to arrive from Korea with added delay because of the Christmas and New Year holidays. He said its ok, he can wait.

The case arrived on 3rd Jan 2013 and I immediately PM-ed him about it. I offered to slip the protectors into an envelope and send it off via regular post because I was going to PosLaju a motherboard to a buyer the next morning. He said he preferred COD so I agreed. I told him I was busy and I would inform him of a suitable day. On Friday (4th Jan 2013) I PM-ed him and suggested Sunday and asked which areas of PJ does he know because I wanted to meet at a petrol station. He suggested the Shell/Petronas along the Sprint Highway opposite Phileo Damansara. I told him the Shell has been closed for construction of the MRT and said to meet at Petronas at 3pm.

On Sunday around 2.40pm, I thought of going to the Dunkin Donuts there to wait and have a drink at the same time. As I was getting ready to go out, I texted him and he replied that he was in Shah Alam and to meet around 4 or 5pm. I had dinner plans that night which I told him about. He replied that he could bank-in to me and I post it like I suggested earlier or we meet around 7pm. As I wasn't sure where I would be eating dinner, I told him to bank-in to me and asked if Maybank was ok. He said Maybank is his preferred choice so I gave him the account I share with my mum. He said he will inform me once banked in.

That was on Sunday, yesterday on Monday I sent him an SMS and a PM asking if he has banked in and if he still wants the protectors. No reply even though he is online shakehead.gif

Now I have to delay my purchase of a Lightning cable from another forumer as I have to find another buyer.


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post Jan 11 2013, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(sakurazz @ Jan 4 2013, 05:49 PM)
Forumer you are complaining against: hatred__ (Link)

Item being sold/bought: iPad Mini Accessories

Original thread link: Through WhatsApp

Date of transaction: 10th December 2012

Details of the complaint :

10th December 2012

-WhatsApp buzzing me asking for stocks availability.
-Confirmed purchasing and promise to bank in by night.
-No Reply After banking details provided.

Full Details here :

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Hi Sakurazz,

My most sincere apologies if I, in any manner, have made your effort and time to close the sale in vain. I happened to be in some sort of unforeseeable circumstances which have prevented me from resuming communication with you and proceeding with the sale. Again, my deepest apology. However, I do believe that such minute matter need not to be brought up to this level, I'd believe. You could have easily provided me with a friendly reminder or so. Oh well, let by gones be by gones, so ons and so ons. All the best in your sale in future and rest assured I shall not interfere nor disturb you in your activities ever again. Good luck. Cheers.
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post Jan 13 2013, 02:31 PM

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FFK of King here.

Juzsell

FFK me three times. I scold him and he dare to scold back me. WTF this seller attitude soooooo worse ! I don't even think he is TRUSTED SELLER since he FFK so many time and many people. Just beware on him. Hope you are very lucky on didn't ffk by him and the item is very good condition won't rosak if not HARD TO CLAIM WARRANTY FROM HIM OHH !!!!!!!!!!!!! WHY ?

BECAUSE HE NEVER ANSWER PM / SMS / PHONE CALL

Like apis said :: You try you suffer

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Item is iPad, agreed on pricing, day, time and location of COD
on that day,
SMS no reply
Whatsapp no reply but marked read
Call no answer neither return call

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