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post Sep 19 2024, 08:51 AM

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QUOTE(Mai189 @ Sep 18 2024, 09:32 PM)
Retro years is it? I hawks, rapiers, e 2c hawkeyes, F5 S/Ts, etc. Looks like a dream.

Btw, Sg and Indo are getting closer. Lots of joint exercises.

Some people comment that the future military backbone of South East Asia will be Sg, Indo and Australia. Makes sense.
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thread ni mmg nak sembang pasal Singapore military je ke.
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QUOTE(Mai189 @ Sep 8 2024, 05:57 PM)
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Sg MRCV^ (probably most detailed look thus far) Source: RSN

NavalNews has an excellent scoop on SG RSN's incoming Multi Role Combat Vessel (MRCV) heavy frigate/destroyer. RSN is building a squadron of 6 of such ships.

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DSTA Reveals Origins of Singapore’s MRCV

At the Warships 2024 conference held in June in Adelaide, Singapore's DSTA (* Singapore's Defence Science and Technology Agency) officials shared some new details on the Republic of Singapore Navy's future Multi Role Combat Vessels (MRCV).

The Republic of Singapore Navy’s future MRCV, which is set to become the first surface combatant ship designed as a drone mothership, is based on a fusion of designs from Sweden and Denmark.

Designs from Saab Kockums and Denmark’s Odense Maritime Technology (OMT) were initially two separate entrants into the MRCV program.

However, as the process developed, the two companies decided to merge their respective proposals according to officials from Singapore’s Defence Science and Technology Agency (DSTA) speaking at the Royal Institute of Naval Architects (RINA) Warships 2024 conference in Adelaide, South Australia.

The final design, which incorporates elements from both companies’ reference designs, was eventually successful in fulfilling the MRCV requirement – beating out offerings from an unknown number of other companies.

OMT’s initial design was based on an enlarged version of the Royal Danish Navy’s Absalon-class and Iver Huitfeldt-class frigates, modified to meet Singaporean payload requirements and to allow for future payload growth. Saab Kockums, meanwhile, proposed a smaller, corvette-sized, vessel building on the heritage of the Royal Swedish Navy’s Visby-class.

When the designs were merged, design elements, systems and approaches from both reference designs were incorporated into the new design. The companies also agreed to cooperate as if both were equal, despite OMT being formally only a subcontractor to Saab Kockums.

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On the OMT side, the MRCV design incorporates the enlarged Absalon/Iver Huitfeldt’s hull lines and structural steel design, as well as its proposed payload management system. Where it differs is on the combat system and propulsion side, where the design takes heavily from the Saab concept, most notably in its use of carbon fibre-reinforced plastic in the superstructure and masts as well as its approach to integrating weapons and sensors.

During the 2023 edition of IMDEX Asia, Naval News learned that the MRCV would have a displacement of around 8,000 tons and a crew complement of about 80 sailors, indicating a high level of automation in the platform. The following sensors and weapons are set to be fitted on the ships:

Leonardo’s 76mm naval gun in the STRALES variant;
MBDA’s VL MICA NG and Aster B1 NT air defence missiles;
ST Engineering / IAI Blue Spear anti-ship missiles;
Thales’ SeaFire multifunction radar
Safran’s PASEO XLR EO/IR system;
Safran’s NGDS decoy launching system.


The MRCV’s organic weapons and sensors, however, won’t be its primary weapons as it is intended as a mothership for autonomous and uncrewed systems. This focus on the platform’s embarked systems is reflected in the design choices made around the MRCV’s power and propulsion systems.

To enable flexibility and growth, the DSTA decided to mandate an Integrated Full Electric Propulsion (IFEP) for the MRCV. IFEP is an arrangement where diesel engines and or gas turbines generate electricity which can be used for both ship services – such as the combat system – and propulsion via electric motors.

The key advantage of this arrangement according to the DSTA is that it is flexible as electricity can be directly moved from propulsion to powering combat systems, or vice versa, as needed. Typically, in other warship designs that incorporate IFEP power arrangements, the electrical system is powered by both gas turbines and diesel engines with the turbines only turning on when power demand spikes.

However, for the Republic of Singapore Navy, this wasn’t an option as it would require them to set up a whole other maintenance, sustainment and training pipeline to support marine gas turbines given that no other Republic of Singapore Navy vessel uses gas turbine engines.

Instead, the DSTA opted for a fully-diesel powered IFEP arrangement which limits the ship’s ability to generate massive amounts of power to enable high-speed operations or faster acceleration. This, the DSTA judged, was acceptable for the MRCV because of its role as an uncrewed and autonomous systems mothership. This means that it isn’t required to be small and light with a high power-to-weight ratio, as missions that would require those capabilities can be performed by its embarked systems.

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2024/0...cv/#prettyPhoto
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Indonesia to take first A400M in late 2025

By Greg Waldron 19 September 2024

Airbus Defence & Space expects Indonesia’s first of two A400M tactical transports to be delivered by late 2025.

Indonesia’s versions will come with underwing pods for refuelling combat aircraft, according to Ed Horne, senior product advisor – air mobility – at Airbus.

The country’s second example will follow in 2026, shortly after the first.


Read more: https://www.flightglobal.com/defence/indone.../160017.article
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US Army HIMARS fires 6 times but misses target in South China Sea

https://www.stripes.com/branches/army/2023-...se-9923537.html

no excuse .HIMARS is overrated.

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Taiwan reconsiders use of American anti-tank missiles after 60% miss the target

https://x.com/narrative_hole/status/1829953718143631486

American anti-tank missiles are a piece of expensive junk

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Patriot Radar Station and Five Missile Batteries Destroyed in Russian Hypersonic Strike on Kiev

https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/p...oyed-hypersonic

Patriot missile system proves to be useless against hypersonic missiles.


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Senyap je pasal ni. Any news?
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Launching of Indonesian Navy 2nd OPV 90M KRI Lukas Rumkorem-392 at Noahtu Shipyard in Lampung.




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QUOTE(issac99289928 @ Sep 20 2024, 04:50 AM)
US Army HIMARS fires 6 times but misses target in South China Sea

https://www.stripes.com/branches/army/2023-...se-9923537.html

no excuse .HIMARS  is overrated.
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Do you get a torpedo to kill a tank?

Himars is performing just as it should i.e. GMRLS gps guided rockets are meant to hit static land targets..

Technically, I think you can hit a moving land target provided that it is moving in a generally unchanging route with help of real time AI assisted battle management system.

I do not know what advertising bang the pinoys wanted to show their government by trying to hit something floating about arbitarily at sea so that the Marcos administration buys Himars.

Btw, the article is self explanatory. It eventually took scatter shots of artillery shells to hit the floating ship moving about aimlessly at sea.

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QUOTE(issac99289928 @ Sep 20 2024, 07:44 AM)
Patriot Radar Station and Five Missile Batteries Destroyed in Russian Hypersonic Strike on Kiev

https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/p...oyed-hypersonic

Patriot missile system proves to be useless against hypersonic missiles.
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Most if not all ballistic missiles are hypersonic. Euro Asters. US Standards, Pac MSE, Israeli Spyder and Davids Sling etc can shoot down ballistic short 2 medium range ballistic missiles. Youll need Thaad or Arrow 2/3 to shoot longer ranged ones.

What current shooter systems have difficulty coping with are maneuvering hypersonic glide vehicles because their trajectories are not predictable. Only the Chinese (or so it is speculated) and the US have had successes developing these vehicles.

The Russian missile cited in the article is a standard ballistic missile. Nothing special apart from Russian propaganda claiming that it is hypersonic to create fear.

As for the website, it is dubious with no source attributed.

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E.g. of a JMMS vessel below (partially or fully eplacing RSNs 4 Endurance class LPDs). I suspect RSNs 3rd flotilla will maintain 2 LHDs plus 2 to 3 LPDs cum multi mission logistic/supply ships plus 1 Ro-Ro ship in addition to other vessels like landing crafts, etc.

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Note: RSNs MRCV heavy frigates/destroyers are likely built at the same yard.

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E.g. of a multi role / multi mission support ship; the Ellida concept (lpd + tanker + supply):

https://www.navylookout.com/in-focus-the-bm...vessel-concept/

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E.g. of a JMMS vessel below (partially or fully eplacing RSNs 4 Endurance class LPDs). I suspect RSNs 3rd flotilla will maintain 2 LHDs plus 2 to 3 LPDs cum multi mission logistic/supply ships plus 1 Ro-Ro ship in addition to other vessels like landing crafts, etc.

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Note: RSNs MRCV heavy frigates/destroyers are likely built at the same yard.
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The new facility is twice the size of the Tuas Yard and will meet Singapore’s navy requirements.

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One of the Gul Yard’s unique features is its 5G-enabled digital infrastructure, which positions it as a next-generation “smart yard.” The yard uses AI-powered technology, many of which were developed in-house, to speed up operations.

https://www.marineinsight.com/shipping-news...infrastructure/

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