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News Ukraine suffers as tide of war begins to turn, West start to see concessions as option

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Spear2
post May 30 2022, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(stack0verflw @ May 30 2022, 10:41 AM)
so many /kumaos become puting buttlicker becoz follow wumao wechat group

protip: puting has nuked pariah russia's economy, face, social back to the stone age. no matter what happens in ukraine u think sanctions will go away anytime soon? this is just sneak preview in case some other pariah imperialist country tries anything funny with taiwan
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Not only Russia, many Western economies are suffering, the US is struggling too, this is in large part caused by sanctions and the war in Ukraine. If you remember when the rouble dipped below half of what it was before war, many predicted the demise of Putin and Rusia very soon, and that the war would end soon with Russia in economic ruins, back to stone age like you said. It did not happen, but the opposite that the rouble climbs back up and the EU/US are still buying some but less from Russia ... Sure there will be more hardship to come, but as long as Russia keeps selling to India and China, this can be mitigated. Is this sufficient to keep Russian economy afloat?
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post May 30 2022, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(hotdayum @ May 30 2022, 10:02 AM)
Is actually common sense isn't it
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Not really. There's plenty here in kopitiam that is very insistent about their pride , honor , maruah tercabar to waste their one and only life to fight an unstoppable force and die just like that according to their viewpoints. They keep mentioning about if China comes takeover Malaysia, its cowardly to just lay down arms and roll over; to them its better to be a suicide bomber rushing in to the invaders etc kind of wild ideas wasting their one and only given life on this Earth. Eh kinda stupid if you ask me.
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post May 30 2022, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(Etude8891 @ May 30 2022, 11:08 AM)
Not really. There's plenty here in kopitiam that is very insistent about their pride , honor , maruah tercabar to waste their one and only life to fight an unstoppable force and die just like that according to their viewpoints. They keep mentioning about if China comes takeover Malaysia, its cowardly to just lay down arms and roll over; to them its better to be a suicide bomber rushing in to the invaders etc kind of wild ideas wasting their one and only given life on this Earth. Eh kinda stupid if you ask me.
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But why would China militarily invade Malaysia tho?
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post May 30 2022, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(Etude8891 @ May 30 2022, 11:08 AM)
Not really. There's plenty here in kopitiam that is very insistent about their pride , honor , maruah tercabar to waste their one and only life to fight an unstoppable force and die just like that according to their viewpoints. They keep mentioning about if China comes takeover Malaysia, its cowardly to just lay down arms and roll over; to them its better to be a suicide bomber rushing in to the invaders etc kind of wild ideas wasting their one and only given life on this Earth. Eh kinda stupid if you ask me.
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We can look at history and current situation for the likelihood for China to takeover Malaysia by inferring from China taking over other nations or conducting covert operations on governments or rhetoric military provocations etc ... It's not zero, but I would guess it is very small probability China would.
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QUOTE(Spear2 @ May 30 2022, 10:59 AM)
Not only Russia, many Western economies are suffering, the US is struggling too, this is in large part caused by sanctions and the war in Ukraine. If you remember when the rouble dipped below half of what it was before war, many predicted the demise of Putin and Rusia very soon, and that the war would end soon with Russia in economic ruins, back to stone age like you said. It did not happen, but the opposite that the rouble climbs back up and the EU/US are still buying some but less from Russia ... Sure there will be more hardship to come, but as long as Russia keeps selling to India and China, this can be mitigated. Is this sufficient to keep Russian economy afloat?
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of all arguments, u chose to use "ruble value". tell me again when u can actually SELL that rubbles u hold lol.

stone age economics are coming, they can only get domestic produced low value items now like potatoes etc. even your china has banned their planes from entering because everybody knows without spare parts = your items are walking skeletons. sure, everything looks fine now wait until they finished consuming their stock.
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QUOTE(hotdayum @ May 30 2022, 11:10 AM)
But why would China militarily invade Malaysia tho?
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they did, at champa sea
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post May 30 2022, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(Etude8891 @ May 30 2022, 11:08 AM)
Not really. There's plenty here in kopitiam that is very insistent about their pride , honor , maruah tercabar to waste their one and only life to fight an unstoppable force and die just like that according to their viewpoints. They keep mentioning about if China comes takeover Malaysia, its cowardly to just lay down arms and roll over; to them its better to be a suicide bomber rushing in to the invaders etc kind of wild ideas wasting their one and only given life on this Earth. Eh kinda stupid if you ask me.
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so.. if unstoppable force usa navy invade ccp, should ccp just roll over? according to u, no need worry about pride, honor etc right?
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post May 30 2022, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(jerm57 @ May 30 2022, 09:51 AM)
Man... back to old school tactics. Stand off artillery bombardment? This kind of strategy has not worked ever since bombers and jets were invented. All this fixed positions are so easy to take out.
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Ukraine dont have sufficient airpower to do that
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post May 30 2022, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(stack0verflw @ May 30 2022, 11:14 AM)
of all arguments, u chose to use "ruble value". tell me again when u can actually SELL that rubbles u hold lol.

stone age economics are coming, they can only get domestic produced low value items now like potatoes etc. even your china has banned their planes from entering because everybody knows without spare parts = your items are walking skeletons. sure, everything looks fine now wait until they finished consuming their stock.
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If you can't sell roubles it would have been nearly zero on exchange right? Who wants a currency that cannot be exchanged eh? I guess you are right on the dot.
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ May 30 2022, 11:19 AM)
Ukraine dont have sufficient airpower to do that
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Yeah... not enough jets to cover whole Ukraine.
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post May 30 2022, 11:22 AM

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US / NATO never wanted Ukraine to join their club.
US just wants to kacau Russian economy, especially the gas supply to Europe.
From the start, if NATO ie US said Ukraine cannot join, there would have been no war.
But never going to happen with Uncle Sam, Middle east/ Afghanistan not enough then Europe, next will be our turn!
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QUOTE(Spear2 @ May 30 2022, 09:16 AM)
Zelensky has not much choice, he is a puppet installed by the US government and has to follow his master callings. But now he seems a bit disillusioned as the feeling of being used washing over the nation.
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Sohai US puppet.

Zelenskyy won 73% of the vote in the last run-off election in 2019. Like that you might as well claim 73% of Ukrainian voters were bribed by US or are neo-Nazis.

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QUOTE(YH1234 @ May 30 2022, 11:18 AM)
they did, at champa sea
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They did? please link your source.
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russian hold food, oil and supply.
think before u act.
inb4 murica tak kesah
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post May 30 2022, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(Spear2 @ May 30 2022, 11:20 AM)
If you can't sell roubles it would have been nearly zero on exchange right? Who wants a currency that cannot be exchanged eh? I guess you are right on the dot.
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i think u should read up on how finance exchanges work lol
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post May 30 2022, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(Spear2 @ May 30 2022, 11:25 AM)
They did? please link your source.
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https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5275921
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post May 30 2022, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(berzerk @ May 30 2022, 11:25 AM)
Sohai US puppet.

Zelenskyy won 73% of the vote in the last run-off election in 2019. Like that you might as well claim 73% of Ukrainian voters were bribed by US or are neo-Nazis.
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The reason is you can put a fair candidate or a US chosen puppet and get voted nonetheless.
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QUOTE(stack0verflw @ May 30 2022, 11:27 AM)
i think u should read up on how finance exchanges work lol
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Awww can't explain it here. Too bad then.
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post May 30 2022, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(YH1234 @ May 30 2022, 11:29 AM)
I don't see invasion of Malaysia in the link.

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