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TSMilitaryMadness
post May 30 2022, 08:42 AM, updated 4y ago

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Ukraine suffers on the battlefield as the tide of war turns and western leaders consider concessions to Russia

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About 10 wounded soldiers arrived at this hospital in eastern Ukraine in less than an hour Sunday morning — the latest military casualties as Ukrainian forces, outgunned by Russia in the country’s east, continue to lose territory at a critical moment in the war.

“Seventy people from my battalion were injured in the last week,” said a soldier and ambulance driver just outside the hospital gates who identified himself only as Vlad, 29. “I lost too many friends; it’s hard for me. I don’t know how many. … It’s getting worse every day.”

The night before, he said, the shelling was so loud he hardly got any sleep. “It’s all artillery bombing down,” he said. “All the wounded are coming from shrapnel. Most guys in the trenches haven’t even seen the enemy face-to-face.”

They were gearing up to provide additional support for the soldiers battling the Russians head-on, preparing for a worst-case scenario in which Russian forces continue or accelerate their current advance. That would be a potential turning point on the battlefield.

It would come at a particularly desperate moment for the Ukrainians. Kyiv is already enraged that some Western voices are floating the idea of ceding territory to Moscow. And the Biden administration is taking weeks to decide whether to provide heavier weaponry that could aid Ukrainian troops at this critical juncture in the war.

“Everyone’s tired,” said Bohdan, a 30-year-old soldier and officer in the battalion who spoke on the condition that only his first name be used and his precise position not be given. “But we are ready to stand and protect until the last man.”

In recent days, Russian troops have captured the towns of Svitlodarsk and Lyman and have closed in on Severodonetsk, a large regional hub, where Russian forces have entered a hotel on the city limits. If Russian troops manage to encircle and take the city, Moscow would occupy nearly all of Ukraine’s easternmost Luhansk region, which makes up roughly half of Donbas.

“I mainly hope the boys don’t get encircled in Severodonetsk,” Bohdan said of his fellow troops. “They need more guns, they need more weapons.”

The situation in the country’s east marks a shift from an earlier stage of the war, when staunch Ukrainian defenses forced a broad Russian retreat in Kyiv and other areas, increasing confidence among Ukrainians and their Western backers about the prospects of all-out victory over a poorly organized and equipped Russian force.

Having now regrouped, Russian troops are making incremental but steady progress in their campaign in the east and are regularly employing heavy flamethrowers and long-range artillery that Ukrainian forces lack, leaving Kyiv on the back foot. Though Ukrainian resistance has made the fight a slog for Russian forces, Moscow is inching closer to encircling Ukraine’s biggest strongholds in the Donbas region, while fighting on territory contiguous to Russia with easier supply lines.

In a video address early Saturday, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said the situation on the battlefield in Donbas was “very difficult,” with Russian forces attacking Ukrainian positions with “maximum artillery and maximum reserves.”

Whether the weaponry will get to Ukrainian forces in time to stave off a significant defeat in the east is now unclear, as Russian forces unleash a wave of attacks with gruesome weaponry on Ukrainian positions, forcing an exodus of people from the country’s embattled easternmost regions.

Outside the hospital Sunday, men who were recently wounded in Severodonetsk lamented the difficult conditions on the ground. “We need more Javelins,” said Lapa, 26, who spoke on the condition that he be identified only by his call sign.

On Saturday, he said, many dead soldiers slain in fighting nearby were carried out. Now, he said, “Ukrainian soldiers are pulling back.”

“They’re just raining down metal on us,” Lapa said. Nearby, a 25-year-old with his head wrapped in a bandage puffed on a cigarette. He goes by Koleh and had recently hit a mine, he said, although he didn’t know how exactly he ended up wounded.

Severodonetsk, he added, “is the worst.”

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post May 30 2022, 08:52 AM

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post May 30 2022, 08:53 AM

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FAKE NEWS !!!!!!!!!!!!!


inb4 igamer "how dare you?"
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post May 30 2022, 08:54 AM

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Russia now abandon fighting with maneuver warfare. Now use superior firepower all the way.
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post May 30 2022, 08:56 AM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ May 30 2022, 08:54 AM)
Russia now abandon fighting with maneuver warfare. Now use superior firepower all the way.
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firepower fund by Europe hypocrite money

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post May 30 2022, 08:57 AM

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Ok lah, first cut off East Ukraine, later whole Ukraine, then cut off other European countries.

We wouldn't want crazy Pudding to press the big red button, so just give in lah. innocent.gif
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post May 30 2022, 08:58 AM

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Funny, hasn't the media been singing that Ukraine with the support of the West money and weapons, is winning the war, Russian invasion will be crushed in the matter of days ...
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post May 30 2022, 09:01 AM

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QUOTE(Spear2 @ May 30 2022, 08:58 AM)
Funny, hasn't the media been singing that Ukraine with the support of the West money and weapons, is winning the war, Russian invasion will be crushed in the matter of days ...
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well, putin grab europe by their balls

it is inevitable, only juvenile in /k can't see this coming

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JoeK
post May 30 2022, 09:04 AM

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Ukraine has had many presidents before, all politicians who knows how to play both western and russian side.

This war is totally zelensky fault who obviously doesn't know how international relations works.

Those ukrainian mati all zelensky fault
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post May 30 2022, 09:06 AM

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This one this week will deploy to war zone.

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Ukraine never have a chance

only the western media talk cok from the start
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If u can not fight them than joint them la.

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Fake news. West should supply more weapon and foreign legion. Just need to bleed russia for a few years war.
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Essentially a war between Russia and the West using Ukraine soldiers.
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QUOTE(JoeK @ May 30 2022, 09:04 AM)
Ukraine has had many presidents before, all politicians who knows how to play both western and russian side.

This war is totally zelensky fault who obviously doesn't know how international relations works.

Those ukrainian mati all zelensky fault
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Zelensky has not much choice, he is a puppet installed by the US government and has to follow his master callings. But now he seems a bit disillusioned as the feeling of being used washing over the nation.
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post May 30 2022, 09:20 AM

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Depends on which stories you wanted to listen or read

‘WELCOME TO HELL’ Russian soldiers beg to go home as they’ve ‘never seen so many corpses’ in leaked phone calls from Ukraine frontline

https://www.the-sun.com/news/4840946/russia...o-home-ukraine/

Putin says he’s proud of his “noble” war against Ukraine, but his soldiers there say it’s such a mess “entire battalions are starting revolts.”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/russian-soldi...tercepted-calls
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post May 30 2022, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(Zot @ May 30 2022, 09:20 AM)
Depends on which stories you wanted to listen or read

‘WELCOME TO HELL’ Russian soldiers beg to go home as they’ve ‘never seen so many corpses’ in leaked phone calls from Ukraine frontline

https://www.the-sun.com/news/4840946/russia...o-home-ukraine/

Putin says he’s proud of his “noble” war against Ukraine, but his soldiers there say it’s such a mess “entire battalions are starting revolts.”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/russian-soldi...tercepted-calls
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Depends also when the above stories are published. Last time when Russia was losing on all fronts those are believable.

Now Russia have regrouped and are starting to gain victories & morale the story on the ground may be different.
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post May 30 2022, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(Zot @ May 30 2022, 09:20 AM)
Depends on which stories you wanted to listen or read

‘WELCOME TO HELL’ Russian soldiers beg to go home as they’ve ‘never seen so many corpses’ in leaked phone calls from Ukraine frontline

https://www.the-sun.com/news/4840946/russia...o-home-ukraine/

Putin says he’s proud of his “noble” war against Ukraine, but his soldiers there say it’s such a mess “entire battalions are starting revolts.”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/russian-soldi...tercepted-calls
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you do know the sun and daily beast are.. tabloid news? doh.gif
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post May 30 2022, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(marfccy @ May 30 2022, 09:35 AM)
you do know the sun and daily beast are.. tabloid news?  doh.gif
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what you tok kok? any news sided ukraine is legit news

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