Nope that’s just bullshit claims, in the midst of withdrawing? Then give me facts in terms of numbers, how many troops were withdrawn in 2015. No point you say you will withdraw but you still have same number of troops.

The only one that can do things that covertly is America because they control the global media. Any other country try to do it quietly also waste time, America will expose them using global media.

Only when the tide goes out will you discover who's been swimming naked.

puting is the best salesman for nato haha...

usa weapons dealer love him!

average defence budget across NATO had been in constant drawdown since the end of the Cold War and reached an all-time low in 2015

the British was almost completing a redeployment of troops out of Germany, and closing down former Cold War bases

the US, as all here should know, was in the middle of the Pacific Pivot and had no major ground troops in Europe

NOBODY expected a war against Russia in 2015

who's the one preparing for war here?:



This post has been edited by KLthinker91: May 30 2022, 05:44 PM

Usually I try to be as polite as I can, but in this case, I just will just call you out as is. Apologies for my directness.

You are naive as best, but stupid is more like it. And obviously tries to lie your way out.
Lie: please state clearly which Nato country is currently at war, as you have already implied it is with russia.

Naive: which part of nuke is fine up to 1950s but is not acceptable now? The destructive force of nukes is acceptable for you to allow America to deploy them in heavily populated area like cities? Cities where civilians lived. If a big bomb is dropped in KL now, I am sure it is all ok, right?

Next time if all of us read statements like I didn't know this is wrong by some criminal, hopefully the world and all judiciaries will allow the criminal off, as not realising what is wrong or dangerous is fine.

If you think history is judged objectively, then I'll leave you be to your opinion. You are entitled to your opinion.

This post has been edited by Wedchar2912: May 30 2022, 06:16 PM

why not provide the actual dollar and cent spending? I am sure USA is at the low side of spending.

Time for peace. Then lower inflation.

Reduce interest rate. Share price go up. Profit

Kenot. US aim is to weaken Russia.

Doesn't matter how many small countries are totally destroyed to achieve it.

Thanks for admitting you don't care about Ukraine well-being.

In 2013, the USA's defence budget was 4.48% of its GDP, or USD 754 bn / 16,800 bn

In 2013, Russia's defence budget was 3.14% of its GDP, or 110 bn / 3,500 bn in PPP-adjusted US dollars

In 2013, China's estimated defence budget was of 1.07% of its GDP, or 266 bn / 15,500 bn in PPP-adjusted US dollars

the USA's defence budgeting policy had been to spend about as much as China and Russia combined, relative to GDP, and you can see that the percentages are roughly there (4.48 vs 4.21)

before complaining that "hey the dollar value is 754 bn vs a total of 376 bn", bear in mind that defence budgets include personnel expenditure, and the cost of living in USA is much much much higher than Russia and China

lol you consider this to be a lie? okay, sure, I will amend that: NATO is not at war with Russia. happy?

there's certainly truth in that statement. but what the point is, relative to this discussion, escapes me.
mainly the part relative to its radioactive effects, since the world seems to accept the use of conventional weapons of equal destruction

that's just how it is; I don't make the rules
maybe you should read up on WW2 history...?

This post has been edited by KLthinker91: May 30 2022, 06:40 PM

ok i waste my 5 seconds spoonfeed a 7 yo, read post 26.

No way, zelensky is attacking moscow now

This post has been edited by Freshmeat21: May 30 2022, 07:02 PM

like i said, thats yr problem if you cant rebut, dont divert.

thank you for at least admitting you lied earlier. So Nato is not at war right?

When a country is always picking fights everywhere, maybe sometimes that country is the war-mongering state. Sometimes, not all the time. But I do like your creativity in using PPP, just to inflate numbers.

sure, I do need to read my ww2 history because I am ignorant enough to think that a weapon capable of killing thousands is NOT ok to be deployed in a city full of civilians, while all your argument is radioactive. Nice argument btw... I originally thought you would state that back in the 1940s, no one know nukes can level a city. You obviously read widely.

This post has been edited by Wedchar2912: May 30 2022, 07:09 PM

Putin 💕

Why don't you answer the question; do you consider NATO to be at war?

And no, I did not lie; I never said NATO is in a legal state of war, nor did I say that Russia declared war on NATO.
if you think PPP is not important, well... go ahead and argue that out with economists why they are still using a pointless measurement
...I don't know what your point is, your rhetoric is too high-flying for me to penetrate. Not that I bother that much to be honest.

On the surface it's clear that you either haven't read enough about WW2 or pretend not to; whichever it is, I don't care lol

bruh/bro...

In future, if want to argue your cases, it would be a good idea to rely on logic and facts.
For example, now asking me back "if Nato is at war" is irrelevant simply because it was a statement by yourself, which is false. You trying to qualify it, etc is weak at best.

I never said PPP is not important, I am just calling you out on your argument of trying to use PPP to inflate numbers. Your earlier attempt to use % increase and later % of GDP would have worked out better.

But good that you highlighted twice that I should read more about WW2 in order to learn more; only now I realize that there are people who think Japan was justified in attacking America (vs what russia is doing now) and in same time it was NOT wrong for America to use nukes (a weapon of unparalleled destructive force up to 1940s). Which means I am missing something.

if you still don't understand ur errors, nothing much I can do. But I do apologize for taking up your and my time in this discussion.

Gogo Z

Actually those Ukraine propaganda was made by Russians, so that looks like Ukraine doing good defending.
Silently Russia sapu all

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