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Watch The AMD Computex 2022 Keynote Live Here β Ry, Ryzen 7000 CPUs, AM5 Motherboards, Next-
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fantasy1989
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May 23 2022, 04:02 PM
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QUOTE(zerorating @ May 23 2022, 03:30 PM) they just did last minute changes from being dual GCD solution to single GCD design, but it still MCM as infinity caches were detached from gpu core chip. nothing to excite about, so best not to unveil anything. btw this gen ryzen top end or low end board will be DDR5 exclusive only?
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zerorating
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May 23 2022, 04:04 PM
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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ May 23 2022, 04:02 PM) btw this gen ryzen top end or low end board will be DDR5 exclusive only? yes sir. new platform = new start.
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fantasy1989
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May 23 2022, 04:05 PM
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QUOTE(zerorating @ May 23 2022, 04:04 PM) yes sir. new platform = new start. let's see the DDR5 price at Fall 2022 in be4 pakai B series mobo but 2 stick ram cost a bomb
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GreenWhite
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May 23 2022, 05:20 PM
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QUOTE(zerorating @ May 23 2022, 02:53 PM) dissapointed that zen4 IPC uplift is very minimal. amd only focused on clockspeed uplift this time around. 1) > 15% IPC uplift 2) vague details. blender demo - similar clockspeeds with 5950X ? Many unknowns π
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zerorating
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May 23 2022, 07:03 PM
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QUOTE(GreenWhite @ May 23 2022, 05:20 PM) 1) > 15% IPC uplift 2) vague details. blender demo - similar clockspeeds with 5950X ? Many unknowns π no need sugarcoating la, those 15% figure were the sum of IPC and clock increase. https://twitter.com/aschilling/status/1528635957678854147but then again, 600mhz clock uplift is not small feat too, IPC improve doesnt necessary improve all sort of workload, but improving clock speed do. i will just said this is refined zen3 made with 5nm tsmc process paired with ddr5 and support pcie5
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Sien99
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May 23 2022, 07:04 PM
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No more AM4? My mobo obsolete lorrr
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Currylaksa
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May 23 2022, 07:08 PM
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QUOTE(zerorating @ May 23 2022, 07:03 PM) no need sugarcoating la, those 15% figure were the sum of IPC and clock increase. https://twitter.com/aschilling/status/1528635957678854147but then again, 600mhz clock uplift is not small feat too, IPC improve doesnt necessary improve all sort of workload, but improving clock speed do. i will just said this is refined zen3 made with 5nm tsmc process paired with ddr5 and support pcie5 (Bersangka baik) maybe they kasi worse case ST scenario Or else it's really just Zen 3+
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zerorating
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May 23 2022, 07:16 PM
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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ May 23 2022, 07:08 PM) (Bersangka baik) maybe they kasi worse case ST scenario Or else it's really just Zen 3+  but to be honest they did the same with rdna2 lol. ipc increase macam tarak, but increase the clock speed from 1905mhz (rx5700xt) to 2424mhz (rx6700xt) make it 27% faster. of course it doesnt come cheap as the logic space were bigger in order to get those extra clock headroom. end of the day, its the end result that matter.
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GreenWhite
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May 23 2022, 07:23 PM
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QUOTE(zerorating @ May 23 2022, 07:03 PM) no need sugarcoating la, those 15% figure were the sum of IPC and clock increase. https://twitter.com/aschilling/status/1528635957678854147 Over what ? Zen 3 ? Raptor ?
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zerorating
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May 23 2022, 07:25 PM
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QUOTE(GreenWhite @ May 23 2022, 07:23 PM) Over what ? Zen 3 ? Raptor ? ryzen 5950x
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accordvtec
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May 23 2022, 07:33 PM
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QUOTE(WhatMan @ May 23 2022, 10:39 AM) I recently built a new custom PC using Core i3 12100. Any AMD current unit that can compete for price/performance? none. best value processor at this price range now. pentium g6400 also another gem for entry level. i personally like amd since the thoroughbred/barton era because they are the underdog. but i just recently changed to i9-12900 for my office pc, and i7-12700 for my home pc because i believe as far as ddr4 is concerned, this 12th gen intel should be the max performance already
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SUSipohps3
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May 23 2022, 07:37 PM
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it says more than 15% means min 15%. but only the top SKU like Ryzen 9 will get the 5.5GHz. so possible the single core improvement should be better, just that AMD have not shown it yet to underpromise then overdeliver. since it is a Fall launch, it will compete directly with Raptor lake with massive cache.
This post has been edited by ipohps3: May 23 2022, 07:39 PM
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GreenWhite
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May 23 2022, 07:38 PM
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Zen 4 short blender test got 31% faster than 12900k, which the 5950x was sIower. Something doesn't add up.
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Currylaksa
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May 23 2022, 07:41 PM
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Takkan DDR5 memory controller and RDNA2 iGPU took up all their engineering time  Edit: also USB and PCIe 5.0 This post has been edited by Currylaksa: May 23 2022, 07:51 PM
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zerorating
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May 23 2022, 07:47 PM
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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ May 23 2022, 07:41 PM) Takkan DDR5 memory controller and RDNA2 iGPU took up all their engineering time  dont forget usb4 too, though this can be licensed from whoever that provide those chipset with royalties previously. for ddr5 they already done their homework earlier since ryzen 6000 mobile CPU and steam deck were using ddr5. there also possibility that most of engineering effort goes to rdna3 too. This post has been edited by zerorating: May 23 2022, 07:48 PM
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GreenWhite
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May 23 2022, 08:05 PM
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QUOTE(ipohps3 @ May 23 2022, 07:37 PM) it says more than 15% means min 15%. 15% in the bag. More by how much, that is the question. Let say they have 25-30%, the > 15% is still valid.
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SUSipohps3
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May 23 2022, 08:20 PM
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QUOTE(zerorating @ May 23 2022, 07:47 PM) dont forget usb4 too, though this can be licensed from whoever that provide those chipset with royalties previously. for ddr5 they already done their homework earlier since ryzen 6000 mobile CPU and steam deck were using ddr5. there also possibility that most of engineering effort goes to rdna3 too. looks like AMD needs more engineers. π
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WhatMan
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May 23 2022, 08:23 PM
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By the time its out, I wonder if Intel will have more worthy challenger?
I plan to build custom PC by end of the year.
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zerorating
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May 23 2022, 08:25 PM
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QUOTE(ipohps3 @ May 23 2022, 08:20 PM) looks like AMD needs more engineers. π they are hiring https://techwireasia.com/2022/04/amd-engine...ities-malaysia/
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zerorating
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May 23 2022, 08:30 PM
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QUOTE(WhatMan @ May 23 2022, 08:23 PM) By the time its out, I wonder if Intel will have more worthy challenger? I plan to build custom PC by end of the year. yes, raptor lake is incoming. jew superior tech just woken up from long hibernation. be afraid apple, qualcomm, nvidia and the others why in the hell this discussion were moved from /k? This post has been edited by zerorating: May 23 2022, 08:30 PM
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