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post May 23 2022, 02:31 PM

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5.5ghz, dayum.
tsmc n5 very geng.
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post May 23 2022, 02:53 PM

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dissapointed that zen4 IPC uplift is very minimal. amd only focused on clockspeed uplift this time around.

but at least on the brightside, it might improve low-load compute tasks responsiveness.
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post May 23 2022, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(ifourtos @ May 23 2022, 02:56 PM)
they target to gain 15%~20% gain each gen.

if they manage to do more,

they saved it for next next gen.

as simple as that.

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back to the day when Intel has significant lead, the cross gen uplift is even more SADDENING...
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but then again they cant get 15% IPC gain this time too.
but it just one test (cinebench), lets just see if it improve other workload.
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post May 23 2022, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(judas @ May 23 2022, 03:00 PM)
+15% single core is minimal??

hahahahaha

okay
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yes,most of those gain are just from 600mhz clock speed uplift.
but hey it just cinebench biggrin.gif

multi-thread performance is kinda good though, it make it ~33% faster than 5950x, but then again it consume 65w more power.
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post May 23 2022, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(china_dude 02 @ May 23 2022, 03:03 PM)
Wei fantasy1989 why intel so kedekut give little improvement in past?
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because they are waiting for 10nm that hardly arrived.
now 10nm arrived and we get alder lake, which is very awesome.
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post May 23 2022, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(piscesguy @ May 23 2022, 03:01 PM)
This year no new gpu?
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they just did last minute changes from being dual GCD solution to single GCD design, but it still MCM as infinity caches were detached from gpu core chip.
nothing to excite about, so best not to unveil anything.

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post May 23 2022, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(china_dude 02 @ May 23 2022, 03:45 PM)
Mana sos?
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https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-navi-31-gpu...gb-gddr6-memory
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post May 23 2022, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ May 23 2022, 04:02 PM)
btw

this gen ryzen top end or low end board will be DDR5 exclusive only?
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yes sir.
new platform = new start.
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post May 23 2022, 07:03 PM

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QUOTE(GreenWhite @ May 23 2022, 05:20 PM)
1) > 15% IPC uplift
  2) vague details. blender demo - similar clockspeeds with 5950X ?
 
Many unknowns πŸ˜‰
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no need sugarcoating la, those 15% figure were the sum of IPC and clock increase.
https://twitter.com/aschilling/status/1528635957678854147

but then again, 600mhz clock uplift is not small feat too, IPC improve doesnt necessary improve all sort of workload, but improving clock speed do.

i will just said this is refined zen3 made with 5nm tsmc process paired with ddr5 and support pcie5

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post May 23 2022, 07:16 PM

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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ May 23 2022, 07:08 PM)
(Bersangka baik) maybe they kasi worse case ST scenario

Or else it's really just Zen 3+ laugh.gif
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but to be honest they did the same with rdna2 lol.
ipc increase macam tarak, but increase the clock speed from 1905mhz (rx5700xt) to 2424mhz (rx6700xt) make it 27% faster. of course it doesnt come cheap as the logic space were bigger in order to get those extra clock headroom. end of the day, its the end result that matter.
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post May 23 2022, 07:25 PM

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QUOTE(GreenWhite @ May 23 2022, 07:23 PM)
Over what ? Zen 3 ? Raptor ?
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ryzen 5950x
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post May 23 2022, 07:47 PM

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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ May 23 2022, 07:41 PM)
Takkan DDR5 memory controller and RDNA2 iGPU took up all their engineering time ohmy.gif
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dont forget usb4 too, though this can be licensed from whoever that provide those chipset with royalties previously.
for ddr5 they already done their homework earlier since ryzen 6000 mobile CPU and steam deck were using ddr5.

there also possibility that most of engineering effort goes to rdna3 too.

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post May 23 2022, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(ipohps3 @ May 23 2022, 08:20 PM)
looks like AMD needs more engineers. πŸ˜‚
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they are hiring biggrin.gif
https://techwireasia.com/2022/04/amd-engine...ities-malaysia/
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post May 23 2022, 08:30 PM

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QUOTE(WhatMan @ May 23 2022, 08:23 PM)
By the time its out, I wonder if Intel will have more worthy challenger?

I plan to build custom PC by end of the year.
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yes, raptor lake is incoming.

jew superior tech just woken up from long hibernation.
be afraid apple, qualcomm, nvidia and the others

why in the hell this discussion were moved from /k?

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post May 23 2022, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(WhatMan @ May 23 2022, 08:35 PM)
I already build one custom PC for a friend and since she use it for work purpose I went for Core i3 12100F. I actually considered to go for Ryzen at first based on good word of mouth but after price/performance survey, as well as watching Youtube reviews from established channel, it was simply not worth it.

I am no Team AMD or Intel, I am Team My Wallet, so whoever offer the best price/performance by end of the year, I go for that.
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nothing wrong with your decision.
we need competitions to drive innovation.
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post May 24 2022, 12:49 AM

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QUOTE(ipohps3 @ May 23 2022, 09:17 PM)


TLDW: AMD sandbagging. Worst case scenario against Raptor Lake is the...

Zen4 + 3D cache.
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so they dont want reveal too much about actual performance figure? hmm.gif

 

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