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post Apr 1 2022, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(hotdayum @ Apr 1 2022, 12:50 PM)
Dey punde go post one in Hnggghhh section there can mou?
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post Apr 1 2022, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(JoGaki @ Apr 1 2022, 01:03 PM)
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post Apr 1 2022, 03:13 PM

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status of 2 dosed Pfizer vaccine also became incomplete, white colored, in MySj. a**h**e
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post Apr 1 2022, 03:17 PM

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My PRC counterpart going to be super vaccine man soon..

he has to go to Germany soon to meet his boss...

he had three sinovac shots... he thinking whether to get the two pzifer shots.. lol
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QUOTE(hotdayum @ Mar 31 2022, 12:17 PM)
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post Apr 1 2022, 05:14 PM

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Shh you provaxxers dont fight each other
Nanti kena myocarditis.. kena stroke, cardiac arrests

Just trust the science and take the incoming 4th dose okay
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post Apr 1 2022, 06:44 PM

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Mar 31 2022, 01:11 PM)
guide me please.
i know the stats is there, but i dont know where to seek those.

even the github one i cant find it yet.
https://github.com/MoH-Malaysia/covid19-pub...vaxstatus.ipynb <--- this didnt show whats vaccine kena cucuk
https://github.com/MoH-Malaysia/covid19-pub...hs_malaysia.csv <-- no vaccine brand here
https://github.com/MoH-Malaysia/covid19-pub...eaths_state.csv <-- no vaccine brand here.
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https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanwpc/a...0263-7/fulltext

and browse to the middle then download the "Download .docx (.03 MB)"

Top right pdf also can download and read it.
https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pi...%2821%2900263-7
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post Apr 1 2022, 06:51 PM

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QUOTE(tshin810 @ Apr 1 2022, 06:44 PM)
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanwpc/a...0263-7/fulltext

and browse to the middle then download the "Download .docx (.03 MB)"

Top right pdf also can download and read it.
https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pi...%2821%2900263-7
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old data la boss (feb-nov 2021)
our concern right now is waning antibodies, you cant expect people to get cucuk every month.

one thing that get me curious were there is reply in this thread saying even 2 dose pfizer also not considered as fully vaccinated in mysejahtera.

the most recent (20-26th feb) covid deaths with vaccine brand figures were as per below:
pfizer - 114
sinobek - 85

https://t.me/Covid_19Malaysia/93787
https://t.me/Covid_19Malaysia/93794

This post has been edited by zerorating: Apr 1 2022, 07:24 PM
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post Apr 1 2022, 07:24 PM

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Apr 1 2022, 06:51 PM)
old data la boss (feb-nov 2021)
our concern right now is waning antibodies, you cant expect people to get cucuk every month.

one thing that get me curious were there is reply in this thread saying even 2 dose pfizer also not considered as fully vaccinated in mysejahtera.
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I know people gonna sayit's old data but if you think deeper, the situation hasn't change.
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post Apr 1 2022, 07:26 PM

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QUOTE(tshin810 @ Apr 1 2022, 07:24 PM)
I know people gonna sayit's old data but if you think deeper, the situation hasn't change.
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nope,
the most recent (20-26th feb) covid deaths with vaccine brand figures were as per below:
pfizer - 114
sinobek - 85

https://t.me/Covid_19Malaysia/93787
https://t.me/Covid_19Malaysia/93794

i trying to find latest figure in moh github (https://github.com/MoH-Malaysia/covid19-public/tree/main/notebooks), couldnt find it, i guess they choose not to make this data public anymore.
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post Apr 1 2022, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Apr 1 2022, 07:26 PM)
nope,
the most recent (20-26th feb) covid deaths with vaccine brand figures were as per below:
pfizer - 114
sinobek - 85

https://t.me/Covid_19Malaysia/93787
https://t.me/Covid_19Malaysia/93794

i trying to find latest figure in moh github (https://github.com/MoH-Malaysia/covid19-public/tree/main/notebooks), couldnt find it, i guess they choose not to make this data public anymore.
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u need to get the ratio, not death number
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post Apr 1 2022, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(NicoRobinz @ Mar 31 2022, 12:28 PM)
Those countries that use Pfizer aren't doing better, if not worse.
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these people are like ostriches.

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post Apr 1 2022, 07:30 PM

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QUOTE(tshin810 @ Apr 1 2022, 07:27 PM)
u need to get the ratio, not death number
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doesnt look like 3 times greater to me.
so which part are you saying the situation didnt change?
now what curious me is how waned vaccine brand a compared to waned vaccine brand b.


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post Apr 1 2022, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Apr 1 2022, 07:30 PM)
doesnt look like 3 times greater to me.
so which part are you saying the situation didnt change?
now what curious me is how waned vaccine brand a compared to waned vaccine brand b.
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just wondering what's your math score and level. You need ratio data (total % of pfizer, AZ and sinovac) and also longer period of death number (bigger sample data for higher accuracy).

Situation didn't change means all kind of vaccines don't have upgrade version.

This post has been edited by tshin810: Apr 1 2022, 07:46 PM
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post Apr 1 2022, 08:12 PM

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QUOTE(tshin810 @ Apr 1 2022, 07:45 PM)
just wondering what's your math score and level. You need ratio data (total % of pfizer, AZ and sinovac) and also longer period of death number.

Situation didn't change means all kind of vaccines don't have upgrade version.
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first of all we are not presented with enough data, how to get our own figures. its true im cherrypicking,but that because i want the most recent data. not the data that we gathered one or two month after cucuk. dont forget that most population were cucuk with pfizer because most kids/teens were given with that brand of vaccine and kids/teens or even young adult have lower probability to got killed by kobis, this will likely to skewed the result even more.

second, all vaccines antibodies waned, the quality drop over time, some may waned faster, some may waned slower. antibodies count doesnt necessary mean better quantity. like for example if you have 50 people equipped with machete vs 5 tigers compared to 10 people armed with gun vs 5 tigers, the former are may kill those tigers quickly . but in a situation where we left with 25 people with machete vs 5 tigers compared to 5 people armed with gun vs 5 tigers, will the same situation remains?

if the situation didnt change, then there is not much reason to cucuk booster shot for those so called quality vaccine as we are not expecting good RoI. we are just wasting resources


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post Apr 1 2022, 08:28 PM

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Apr 1 2022, 08:12 PM)
first of all we are not presented with enough data, how to get our own figures. its true im cherrypicking,but that because i want the most recent data. not the data that we gathered one or two month after cucuk. dont forget that most population were cucuk with pfizer because most kids/teens were given with that brand of vaccine and kids/teens or even young adult have lower probability to got killed by kobis, this will likely to skewed the result even more.

second, all vaccines antibodies waned, the quality drop over time, some may waned faster, some may waned slower. antibodies count doesnt necessary mean better quantity. like for example if you have 50 people equipped with machete vs 5 tigers compared to 10 people armed with gun vs 5 tigers, the former are may kill those tigers quickly . but in a situation where we left with 25 people with machete vs 5 tigers compared to 5 people armed with gun vs 5 tigers, will the same situation remains?

if the situation didnt change, then there is not much reason to cucuk booster shot for those so called quality vaccine as we are not expecting good RoI. we are just wasting resources
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If you really want those data, dig deeper in google search. You can find other countries (or WHO) for those data. I am working atleast 15 hours per day, so I am not gonna dig it anymore. You should go learn advanced google operators (phrase match, exact match, inurl, intile, filetype and etc)
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post Apr 1 2022, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(tshin810 @ Apr 1 2022, 08:28 PM)
If you really want those data, dig deeper in google search. You can find other countries (or WHO) for those data. I am working atleast 15 hours per day, so I am not gonna dig it anymore. You should go learn advanced google operators (phrase match, exact match, inurl, intile, filetype and etc)
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the only thing i want is the raw data for malaysia, so where is it?

i was under impression that those moh github portal give the most detailed data, but it doesnt contains the data that i wanted which is covid19 deaths by brands.

last time people use this kind of data saying pfizer 3x time better in term of death counts (may reflecting on amount of severe cases too), but that old story, whats the most recent data saying now?

also my last check:
https://t.me/Covid_19Malaysia/92505
6-12feb:
pfizer - 29
sinobek - 21

https://t.me/Covid_19Malaysia/93005
13-19feb:
pfizer - 62
sinobek - 56

at the moment i want to judge if mrna based vaccine is worth taking despite of more unwanted side effect and the risks of our body cells being targeted by the immunity system? i guess not. probably it will be very best for short period protections.

This post has been edited by zerorating: Apr 1 2022, 08:41 PM

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