my father and sister kena kobis.
both pfizer, so how?

at least this so called superior 95% efficacy vaccine should do better job right?
when sinobek vaccine cant prevent covid infection people call failed vaccine, but when pfizer cant prevent it, suddenly mentioned vaccine cant prevent infection, double standard aa?

oh ya forget to mentioned, me 3 dose sinobek, havent kobis positive yet, my brother and another sister 2 dose sinobek+pfizer booster still okay. i guess we are pretty much lucky managed to escape from those invisible enemy.

This post has been edited by zerorating: Mar 31 2022, 12:45 PM

one claim 95% efficacy, the other dont claim such.
yet alot people only directing that the latter is the failed one.

to my eye, both failed. find other approach please. we cant depend on vaccine alone.

This post has been edited by zerorating: Mar 31 2022, 12:51 PM

wheres the stats? show me.
https://t.me/s/Covid_19Malaysia no longer showing this, the last time i check pfizer death are aplenty too. thats the result of having antibodies wanes over time.
no visualized one, you give raw data also fine. dont show me old article where that time people just got their cucuk.

This post has been edited by zerorating: Mar 31 2022, 12:58 PM

wheres the raw data?
its been 3 month already after that article.
its true that pfizer one give much better result earlier, but after antibodies wanes out, it doesnt show much superiority anymore

guide me please.
i know the stats is there, but i dont know where to seek those.

even the github one i cant find it yet.
https://github.com/MoH-Malaysia/covid19-pub...vaxstatus.ipynb <--- this didnt show whats vaccine kena cucuk
https://github.com/MoH-Malaysia/covid19-pub...hs_malaysia.csv <-- no vaccine brand here
https://github.com/MoH-Malaysia/covid19-pub...eaths_state.csv <-- no vaccine brand here.

This post has been edited by zerorating: Mar 31 2022, 01:19 PM

probably ts talk about 2dose sinobek without booster loss their full vaccination status.
but that doesnt mean that 3 dose sinobek lose their full vaccination status anytime soon.

old data la boss (feb-nov 2021)
our concern right now is waning antibodies, you cant expect people to get cucuk every month.

one thing that get me curious were there is reply in this thread saying even 2 dose pfizer also not considered as fully vaccinated in mysejahtera.

the most recent (20-26th feb) covid deaths with vaccine brand figures were as per below:
pfizer - 114
sinobek - 85

https://t.me/Covid_19Malaysia/93787
https://t.me/Covid_19Malaysia/93794

This post has been edited by zerorating: Apr 1 2022, 07:24 PM

nope,
the most recent (20-26th feb) covid deaths with vaccine brand figures were as per below:
pfizer - 114
sinobek - 85

https://t.me/Covid_19Malaysia/93787
https://t.me/Covid_19Malaysia/93794

i trying to find latest figure in moh github (https://github.com/MoH-Malaysia/covid19-public/tree/main/notebooks), couldnt find it, i guess they choose not to make this data public anymore.

doesnt look like 3 times greater to me.
so which part are you saying the situation didnt change?
now what curious me is how waned vaccine brand a compared to waned vaccine brand b.


This post has been edited by zerorating: Apr 1 2022, 07:33 PM

first of all we are not presented with enough data, how to get our own figures. its true im cherrypicking,but that because i want the most recent data. not the data that we gathered one or two month after cucuk. dont forget that most population were cucuk with pfizer because most kids/teens were given with that brand of vaccine and kids/teens or even young adult have lower probability to got killed by kobis, this will likely to skewed the result even more.

second, all vaccines antibodies waned, the quality drop over time, some may waned faster, some may waned slower. antibodies count doesnt necessary mean better quantity. like for example if you have 50 people equipped with machete vs 5 tigers compared to 10 people armed with gun vs 5 tigers, the former are may kill those tigers quickly . but in a situation where we left with 25 people with machete vs 5 tigers compared to 5 people armed with gun vs 5 tigers, will the same situation remains?

if the situation didnt change, then there is not much reason to cucuk booster shot for those so called quality vaccine as we are not expecting good RoI. we are just wasting resources

the only thing i want is the raw data for malaysia, so where is it?

i was under impression that those moh github portal give the most detailed data, but it doesnt contains the data that i wanted which is covid19 deaths by brands.

last time people use this kind of data saying pfizer 3x time better in term of death counts (may reflecting on amount of severe cases too), but that old story, whats the most recent data saying now?

also my last check:
https://t.me/Covid_19Malaysia/92505
6-12feb:
pfizer - 29
sinobek - 21

https://t.me/Covid_19Malaysia/93005
13-19feb:
pfizer - 62
sinobek - 56

at the moment i want to judge if mrna based vaccine is worth taking despite of more unwanted side effect and the risks of our body cells being targeted by the immunity system? i guess not. probably it will be very best for short period protections.

This post has been edited by zerorating: Apr 1 2022, 08:41 PM